Uf Cheated Ut To Win?

#51
#51
If we had lost to Georgia, I would be upset, but not this upset...

What really burned me was that we lost to Chris Leak, after all that crap he pulled on us over his recruitment and CJ, etc. Crap, better Alabama AND Georgia, than Florida...
 
#52
#52
I'd seriously like to know how an August test leads to a suspension in the third week of September. Fuzzy math?
 
#53
#53
to me it doesn't matter...what UF does is what UF does....we have are own issues to deal with....
 
#54
#54
Look at Florida's next 5 games.Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, at Auburn, Georgia.I dare say they might miss him a little bit.
 
#55
#55
It just can't be. There's no way St. Urban would let something like that happen.
 
#56
#56
More like Urban crime....now it looks like all three FL teams are certifiable Thug and Drug U.
 
#57
#57
Like I said, maybe he DID test positive long before the UT game (which it looks like he did). However, the university's handle these kinds of things, NOT the NCAA. Therefore, it cannot be cheating under NCAA guidelines. It may be unethical or immoral, but it's not cheating.
 
#58
#58
this kind of thread comes off as excuse making and whining...

i agree with you AZ...either way, it wasn't "cheating".
 
#59
#59
jakez4ut said:
this kind of thread comes off as excuse making and whining...

i agree with you AZ...either way, it wasn't "cheating".
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I agree. Besides, I don't think that a fine institution like the University of Florida would ever knowingly do anything like that.
 
#63
#63
Maybe the guy just needed a little medical puff for his cataracts........

:crazy:


Whew!!! I hate to think how he would of killed us weed free!!
 
#64
#64
McCoy 5 LB said:
I don't lnow about yall but, it is very very suspicious how just after the UT/UF gm there star DT suddenly gets busted for drugs and is on a 5-game suspension now. The NCAA needs to look into this they need to go to the POLICE department see when he was Arrested. If this guy wasn't in th UF/UT game the game could have been a whole new game, the guy was in our backfield constantly. I just see it really suspicious once the Gators sneak past UT their best DT suddenly gets busted then. I believe URBAN MYTH has some explaining to do.
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Some of you guys need to get over trying to fabricate excuses for our loss to Florida. They kicked the butts of both our offensive and defensive lines. They deserved to win the game. Accept it and get on with life.
 
#65
#65
Vol423 said:
Some of you guys need to get over trying to fabricate excuses for our loss to Florida. They kicked the butts of both our offensive and defensive lines. They deserved to win the game. Accept it and get on with life.
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exactly, Its over everone wishes we would have won the game but we didnt. Its time to move on . We still have 9 more games to play. Lets move on from this loss and look forward to this saturday. Everyone needs to stop making excuses.
 
#68
#68
CSpindizzy said:
Why is it that he failed the test a month ago and he is just now getting the suspension? Wheels of justice work slow in Gainesville? Or like the conspiracy says, was it timed until after a key game?
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He failed twice. First time he got suspended for the first game against USM (university policy) and 2nd time he is suspended indefinetely (university policy). He was not suspended for 5 games...those reports turned out to be false. He has appealed the decision because of his claim that the 2nd test was positive due to the THC still being in his system. We'll know more later today.

Oh, the 2nd test was not a "month ago". A few weeks ago to be exact. The sample is not tested right there on the spot. It's sent away and the results take time to get back to Gainesville. It's more complicated that what you and others have presented in your posts.
 
#69
#69
Summitgator said:
He failed twice. First time he got suspended for the first game against USM (university policy) and 2nd time he is suspended indefinetely (university policy). He was not suspended for 5 games...those reports turned out to be false. He has appealed the decision because of his claim that the 2nd test was positive due to the THC still being in his system. We'll know more later today.

Oh, the 2nd test was not a "month ago". A few weeks ago to be exact. The sample is not tested right there on the spot. It's sent away and the results take time to get back to Gainesville. It's more complicated that what you and others have presented in your posts.
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Did you read the whole thread??
 
#70
#70
McCoy 5 LB said:
Im not mad because UT lost. Im mad if UT loses due to CHEATING. Talk about discipline, This is the second time that FAT AZZ DT was caught with MARIJUANA and he gets a slap on the wrist suspension...WTF a SECOND OFFENSE should be a PLANE ticket home. College Football is becoming a HUGE JOKE...Nothing but a BUNCH OF CHEATERS (BAMA NOW USC)...This is the most SHADY sport ever....Just imagine what has gone on in the NCAAF that has not and never will be revealed of as CHEATING.
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UF's policy on this is exactly the same at UT's policy. The 1st offense gets you a suspension (at least 1 game). The 2nd offense gets you an indefinite suspension, and the 3rd offense gets you dismissed.

NCAA has nothing to look into - it's a violation of a university policy - not NCAA rules. No cheating involved.

It's amazing to me that folks would come across as this self-righteous when their own school has recently had similar issues with an athlete. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I believe that it's a long shot that the claim being made by Marcus Thomas, that the positive in the 2nd test were the results of the same ingestion as the 1st. But until that gets cleared up, he's not guilty of the 2nd offense.

If he is, he misses a bunch of the most critical games UF has. The truth be told, I'd rather he had missed the first 5 games, including the game against UT, than to miss the coming 5 game stretch, which includes LSU, Auburn, and UGA, all of whom I believe pose a bigger challenge to UF's D-line than UT did.

But the tragedy for Thomas, as it was for Wingate, is that these guys have a problem that they can't seem to overcome. It's a problem that will cost them a LOT of money, as it hurts their draft status in their respective sports.

Many expected Marcus Thomas to be in the NFL this year - he could have but opted to come back to improve his draft status. You would think with that sort of committment that he'd be able to stay clean. The fact that he couldn't tells me that he's got a problem that he needs professional help with, a problem with ramifications that go far beyond the loss of his skills to the team and letting his family down.
 
#71
#71
USAF_Vol said:
Again, most tests use a cutoff before it is marked as positive. Example:

I test on 20 Sep 06 for THC with a 40 ng level, with a DoD cutoff of 20 ng.
A waiting period for the next test is usually 1-2 weeks.

I go in and test at 40 ng again 2 weeks later. No drop in ng level means I smoked again.

I test 21 ng 2 weeks later, I have not smoked since the first time.

Does this make sense to you?
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Interesting - the DoD cutoff is 20ng. The UF cutoff is 15ng. So the substance abuse policy is stricter to play football at UF than it is to defend our country in the military.

Does anyone know what UT's cutoff is?
 
#72
#72
The only thing that matters at this point IMO is when was the first test administered and when the second test was administered.How much time lapsed between the two test.If Thomas should have been tested prior to the UT game and wasn't I have a big problem with that.If your a coach playing a game and the best defensive player in the league may have to set out a huge game, it would tempting to wait if you think you could manipulate and or people are gullible enough to the process.I know NCAA has forfeited games by a team for playing an academically inelgible player.My final thought is even though there would be motivation to play Thomas from coach Meyer, I don't think Meyer is that kind of a shady coach.
 
#73
#73
not to change the subject but i have a question abouot reggie bush. What is the NCAA doing to USC for paying Reggie Bush??

does anyone have any info on this???
 
#74
#74
patrick said:
not to change the subject but i have a question abouot reggie bush. What is the NCAA doing to USC for paying Reggie Bush??

does anyone have any info on this???
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There's a pretty in depth thread on Bush's violations in the Other Sports Forum.
 
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