UGA/VOLS observation

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Agree! We would have beat UGA if you take away all of their good plays and give us more!

 

[knox73]

Sometimes it is not fair. Alabama lost on the last play of the game twice on the road to top 10 teams in a hostile setting. Now pundits imply the program is collapsing. Vols were a 9 point underdog to Georgia on the road in a hostile setting and lost. However all the pregame buildup of 1 vs. 1: game of the century etc. raised expectations for an epic matchup of champion caliber teams. Oddsmakers did not agree and were correct. Well the Vols were extremely overmatched and played a poor game given some pregame expectations. Vol fans are frustrated but the eye test of that game was not positive for Tennessee. If you rewatch the game key plays emerge that if executed well could have created a competitive game. That is basically true in any game. As in the Florida- Georgia game, Florida made a rally then Georgia picked up the tempo and closed them out. Georgia coasted to the victory vs Tennessee as Vols had no rally in them. A lot of football remains to be played and Tennessee is in excellent shape for a rematch with Georgia. Any given Saturday a team can lose and right now Missouri is of major concern to see if Tennessee can regain their footing toward a championship run. Vols are a team with a lot of heart and talent and with their first loss out of the way - can get on track for a playoff spot.

 

[volpreacher]

Now, if only our fans can get this through their heads, recognize the game is over and done with, and move on, so these whiny hand wringing threads can die.

This wasn’t a whiny thread but just one pointing out the obvious. It wasn’t a blowout and we should be encouraged. Tennessee played bad and still didn’t get blown out

 

[volpreacher]

Georgia had the ball almost all of the 3rd quarter. They were done trying to score. Of course, Tennessee still had to stop them, but they were out to beat the clock at that point.
BTW, Georgia won the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters. They beat Tennessee's arse that entire game with the exception of a couple of moments of life by Tennessee. It will be a better game the next time around.

Spoken like a true Georgia fan. You obviously watched a different game. Tennessee outscored Georgia from second quarter on and had a chance to score again and just didn’t make the plays. Anyone that thinks Georgia stopped trying to score is delusional. I know they didn’t pass as much but they were trying to keep from making a crucial turnover and giving Tennessee a short field knowing Tennessee was still within striking distance. Tennessee got outplayed but it wasn’t a blowout

 

[BanditVol]

I rewatched Tennessee/Georgia game tonight. I thought Saturday night Georgia dominated Tennessee by playing their best game of the year and Tennessee their worst game. After watching it again I realized Georgia had 3 big plays that allowed them to score. From that point, 43 seconds into the second quarter, Georgia had only 162 total yards for the 2,3,4 quarters combined. They only had 72 total yards in the whole second half. They had only 95 total yards more than Tennessee for the game. Not to mention the fluke 75 yard punt that goes out at the one. Tennessee missed on a couple of wide open throws that would have been touchdowns. Tennessee’s defense showed up. Georgia’s great tight ends caught 3 total balls all night, all by Bowers for a measly 27 yards. Don’t get me wrong, Georgia deserved Saturday’s game but this game was much more competitive than people especially Georgia fans are trying to say. I’m hoping for a rematch (it’s highly possible) because I believe on a neutral field Tennessee will win. I believe final 4 will be 1.Georgia 2. Ohio St 3. Tennessee 4. Oregon

Yup

 

[volpreacher]

What is the media's motivation to push that narrative? The overwhelming majority of media picked Tennessee to win. The Vols have been the darling of the media since the Bama game. Wouldn't the media be more inclined to pump a potential rematch?

just wait until it happens and they will say we predicted this

 

[WoodsmanVol]

This wasn’t a whiny thread but just one pointing out the obvious. It wasn’t a blowout and we should be encouraged. Tennessee played bad and still didn’t get blown out

Well..., my point is rather than yet another thread about the Gerogia game, just Elsa the darn thing and move along. you see:

 

[volpreacher]

Kirby went very conservative in the 2nd half, the Dogs did not attack like they did in the first half, hence the yardage was down. Their defensive line dominated our offensive line.

You say that but it wasn’t all dominant. Go back and watch the game again. I thought the same way you did but rewatching it I saw half of the sacks Henson had plenty of time but held on too long. One on the outside scramble he should have thrown it away. Our DL controlled their run game. Well below their a. If you are controlling you can run at will whether the other team knows your passing/running or not

 

[SLODAWG]

Hit 2 wide open receivers (which we've done all year) and the game it TOTALLY different. UGA didn't have ANYTHING to do with Hooker overthrowing. He had zero pressure on either of those passes. UT didn't execute and UGA did. Nothing more. Nothing less. And for you Dawg fans that say "we could've scored 50 if we wanted to..." well you didn't. If Kirby is stupid enough to "take his foot of the peddle" against a team the averages near 50 pts a game... I'm glad he's yours and not ours. Your defense won that game no ifs, ands or buts.

I don't know who "you" Dawgs fans are. I never suggested UGA would hang 50 on Tennessee.

 

[LadyVolette]

Well..., my point is rather than yet another thread about the Gerogia game, just Elsa the darn thing and move along. you see:

I’m with you, I’m over it we have more games to play now

 

[terrypedigo]

Look Kirby started trying to run out the clock in the third quarted, for some reason he backed of it wasn't all the rain, they could have beat us by 28 points if he wanted to.

 

[Tman44]

I rewatched Tennessee/Georgia game tonight. I thought Saturday night Georgia dominated Tennessee by playing their best game of the year and Tennessee their worst game. After watching it again I realized Georgia had 3 big plays that allowed them to score. From that point, 43 seconds into the second quarter, Georgia had only 162 total yards for the 2,3,4

Why? What did you do so horrible that required that level of torture/punishment? Just don't do that. Go to the Bama game on your DVR instead. Seriously, go re-watch Bama right now.

 

[fossilfiction]

Spoken like a true Georgia fan. You obviously watched a different game. Tennessee outscored Georgia from second quarter on and had a chance to score again and just didn’t make the plays. Anyone that thinks Georgia stopped trying to score is delusional. I know they didn’t pass as much but they were trying to keep from making a crucial turnover and giving Tennessee a short field knowing Tennessee was still within striking distance. Tennessee got outplayed but it wasn’t a blowout

Okay guy, show me how Tennessee outscored Georgia from the second quarter on when they lost the third and then come back with that "You obviously watched a different game" doo-doo. Tennessee got their arse whooped in rushing, passing, time of possession, total offense, total defense, special teams, and penalties, and lost by 14 with 8 expected. But know what, rock on with that head-in-the-sand mess. In that game, Georgia beat the hell out of Tennessee the entire night.

 

[90 Vol]

There are reasons the Vols didn't execute. Georgia is the main reason. Of course the Vols will adjust for a rematch. So will the Dawgs. I'm not suggesting Tennessee can't beat UGA. I believe they can. But this "we beat ourselves" stuff is a bit delusional.

It was a combination of a good Georgia team bringing their A game and a good Tennessee team playing their C- game. Part of our C game was Georgia and part of it was a lack of execution on our part with some bad luck sprinkled in. That's not delusion, that's football.

 

[LWSVOL]

I rewatched Tennessee/Georgia game tonight. I thought Saturday night Georgia dominated Tennessee by playing their best game of the year and Tennessee their worst game. After watching it again I realized Georgia had 3 big plays that allowed them to score. From that point, 43 seconds into the second quarter, Georgia had only 162 total yards for the 2,3,4 quarters combined. They only had 72 total yards in the whole second half. They had only 95 total yards more than Tennessee for the game. Not to mention the fluke 75 yard punt that goes out at the one. Tennessee missed on a couple of wide open throws that would have been touchdowns. Tennessee’s defense showed up. Georgia’s great tight ends caught 3 total balls all night, all by Bowers for a measly 27 yards. Don’t get me wrong, Georgia deserved Saturday’s game but this game was much more competitive than people especially Georgia fans are trying to say. I’m hoping for a rematch (it’s highly possible) because I believe on a neutral field Tennessee will win. I believe final 4 will be 1.Georgia 2. Ohio St 3. Tennessee 4. Oregon

this was a talent game. Not coaching game. Talent dominated the game at the LOS.

Hooker went back 39 times to pass. he was sacked 6 times and pressured 20 times. 67% of the pass attempts were under duress. WRs could not get open in the few seconds that Hooker had. 3rd quarter we had a WR do a 5 yard out to the sideline. Before he made his cut, Hooker was on the ground.

When he wanted to pass (only threw 4 passes in the second half) Bennett had all the time he needed. Tennessee could not penetrate the Georgia OL enough to create any fear at all.

Georgia had the game after one quarter and they knew it. 70 plus 4 and 5 stars versus 33 4 and 5 stars. Game was lost on talent.

Its been an amazing year that not many folks expected. As Heupel continues to get the talent up to par with UGA and others, future is very bright. No shame in losing to the defending National Champions with outstanding talent.

JMO

 

[Vol_in_NC_1999]

That is what everyone needed to see to push the second SEC team to below the top 4. Had this been the other way, you would be pointing these same things out. The score was reflective of what happened unlike what the media, who has agendas, wants folks to believe. None of them are talking about how TN shut down the UGA offense. I'm sure future opponents are taking notes though.

But really it's still the same as a 49-3 beat down according to Herbstreit.

 

[Vol_in_NC_1999]

Hey, I would like to ask the GA fans on here how they would compare the Vols and Oregon after watching both play GA. Of course, it might be apples to oranges at this point since the Oregon game was early in the season, but it would interesting to hear their thoughts.

 

[GBOplayer]

There's no need to rewatch the game...the score could have and really should have been 44 - 6...UGA sat on the ball the entire 2nd half, with no intention to score. They planned to just run out the clock so that our quick strike offense would not get any rhythm. Our offense scored that touchdown late only because the game was already over by then and UGA was playing soft.....

The good news is we will be better prepared if we play UGA again in the playoffs

 

[BAMA-DAWG]

I rewatched Tennessee/Georgia game tonight. I thought Saturday night Georgia dominated Tennessee by playing their best game of the year and Tennessee their worst game. After watching it again I realized Georgia had 3 big plays that allowed them to score. From that point, 43 seconds into the second quarter, Georgia had only 162 total yards for the 2,3,4 quarters combined. They only had 72 total yards in the whole second half. They had only 95 total yards more than Tennessee for the game. Not to mention the fluke 75 yard punt that goes out at the one. Tennessee missed on a couple of wide open throws that would have been touchdowns. Tennessee’s defense showed up. Georgia’s great tight ends caught 3 total balls all night, all by Bowers for a measly 27 yards. Don’t get me wrong, Georgia deserved Saturday’s game but this game was much more competitive than people especially Georgia fans are trying to say. I’m hoping for a rematch (it’s highly possible) because I believe on a neutral field Tennessee will win. I believe final 4 will be 1.Georgia 2. Ohio St 3. Tennessee 4. Oregon

It was brilliant strategy by Heupel. He knew that UT could lose the game and avoid having to play in the SEC Championship game, thereby avoiding a rematch with Bama or LSU. Watch the tape again. You'll notice that after the halftime break, before the VOLs pulled within two scores, he began calling plays that would allow Hooker to get sacked, knowing that the committee would honor a two score loss UT over a seven score loss Oregon. He even called the ol' Fumblerooski, but Kirby, much the wiser, instructed his lads to give it right back on the very next play (this ain't his first rodeo). Heupel needed the score to be close, but not too close, as reportedly, Spyre Sports Group also wagered a large sum on the game, laying the points.
COY.....COY.

 

[SLODAWG]

Hey, I would like to ask the GA fans on here how they would compare the Vols and Oregon after watching both play GA. Of course, it might be apples to oranges at this point since the Oregon game was early in the season, but it would interesting to hear their thoughts.

The stat that stands out to me was Oregon's 4.5 yards per carry to Tennessee's 2.2. The Ducks had success running, they were just blown out of the building early and had to throw to try to stay in the game. They weren't helped by two turnovers. The Vols also turned it over twice but so the the Dawgs. I think the Dawgs are clearly better than both. Once it was 14-3 in favor of the Dawgs (over TN), I never felt like the game was in doubt. I think the Vols pose the bigger threat based on their quick strike offense. Nothing I've seen about Oregon concerns me.

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

You say that but it wasn’t all dominant. Go back and watch the game again. I thought the same way you did but rewatching it I saw half of the sacks Henson had plenty of time but held on too long. One on the outside scramble he should have thrown it away. Our DL controlled their run game. Well below their a. If you are controlling you can run at will whether the other team knows your passing/running or not

True, Hooker did not throw ball away which I understand he wants to make plays, but Ga's line was going to get to him. I hope Heupel learns from that game

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

You say that but it wasn’t all dominant. Go back and watch the game again. I thought the same way you did but rewatching it I saw half of the sacks Henson had plenty of time but held on too long. One on the outside scramble he should have thrown it away. Our DL controlled their run game. Well below their a. If you are controlling you can run at will whether the other team knows your passing/running or not

The reason he "held on too long" is because they had good coverage on 90+% of the snaps and he didn't have anywhere to throw it.

As far as our defense vs. their offense. I posted this a couple of days ago but in the interest of remaining clear eyed on what happened, let's look at the numbers:

Here are UGA's offensive possessions

6 plays, 24 yards, 2:05, FUMBLE, 0-0 (possession ended at 12:55 1st)
5 plays, 80 yards, 1:33, TD, 7-3 UGA (possession ended at 10:34 1st)
3 plays, 6 yards, 1:36, PUNT, 7-3 UGA (possession ended at 6:58 1st)
1 play, 37 yards, 0:07, TD, 14-3 UGA (possession ended at 3:28 1st)
6 plays, 64 yards, 2:57, TD, 21-3 UGA (possession ended at 14:13 2nd)
5 plays, 12 yards, 2:55 PUNT, 21-6 UGA (possession ended at 6:33 2nd)
12 plays, 78 yards, 4:52, FG, 24-6 UGA (possession ended at half)
HALFTIME
15 plays, 67 yards, 8:44, FG, 27-6 UGA (possession ended at 1:09 3rd)

IT STARTED RAINING DURING THE ABOVE DRIVE, AFTER THAT UGA THREW 1 PASS THE REST OF THE GAME, then went:

1 play, 3 yards, FUMBLE, 0:10
3 PLAYS, -8 yards, PUNT, 2:51
3 plays, -2 yards, PUNT, 0:28 (we took 2 of our 3 timeouts)
4 plays, 12 yards, END OF GAME, 2:42

The fact is they went super conservative after it got messy and we fumbled it back and to at the end of the 3rd quarter. It's not like we figured anything out on defense. Credit for stopping the straight ahead run where credit is due but they aren't going to do that (just run it into the line and kill clock) in a different situation, and we aren't going to know what they are going to do in a different situation.

Once it got messy weather wise, Smart figured we couldn't score 21 points in the time left at that point (basically 1 quarter left to go) unless he gave us something cheap and so they didn't take any risks, they just ran it into the line to burn clock and make us burn timeouts except for one play where they tried to pick up a third down and the ball went right through the receivers hands. I have little faith we can stop them when they leave their playbook open. If we win a rematch our offense is going to have to play, much, much better against their defense, that is the strength of our team and it has to be a strength for us to win. Our defense was and remains a liability.

 

[DawggoneRight]

Hit 2 wide open receivers (which we've done all year) and the game it TOTALLY different. UGA didn't have ANYTHING to do with Hooker overthrowing. He had zero pressure on either of those passes. UT didn't execute and UGA did. Nothing more. Nothing less. And for you Dawg fans that say "we could've scored 50 if we wanted to..." well you didn't. If Kirby is stupid enough to "take his foot of the peddle" against a team the averages near 50 pts a game... I'm glad he's yours and not ours. Your defense won that game no ifs, ands or buts.

Since you want to play the hypothetical, "if this" and "but what about that" game, at least play both sides of the chess board:

1. UGA was robbed of the safety and getting the ball back in good field position, which would likely ended in a score just like the one after the ensuing punt
2. UGA mismanaged the clock and had to settle for a FG on 2nd and goal to end the half instead of having 2-3 more plays for the end zone inside the 5 yard line
3. Bennett's only deep pass in the 2nd half was a perfectly thrown ball that was dropped inside your 10-yard line, leading to a punt. That evens out one TN drop, right?
4. UGA knelt at the Tenn 25 yard line on 1st down with nearly a minute left in the game. How is that not taking a foot of the pedal?
5. UGA had 2 turnovers and 60 yards in penalties. UT had 2 turnovers and 55 yards in penalties. Pretty even there, don't you think?

Both teams had drops, turnovers and mistakes and plays that could have gone the other way. It's silly to presume that only the Vols will learn and get better for a rematch. It's sillier to assume a dry field will only benefit the Vols. I welcome a rematch aginst an improved Vol team, and you deserve to be there if you win out, but it is ridculous to think the result will be any different based on the assumption you already played us at our best and kept it close solely by your own efforts.

 

[volpreacher]

Okay guy, show me how Tennessee outscored Georgia from the second quarter on when they lost the third and then come back with that "You obviously watched a different game" doo-doo. Tennessee got their arse whooped in rushing, passing, time of possession, total offense, total defense, special teams, and penalties, and lost by 14 with 8 expected. But know what, rock on with that head-in-the-sand mess. In that game, Georgia beat the hell out of Tennessee the entire night.
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You didn’t read my post or obviously watch the game. The one TD Georgia scored was 43 seconds into the second quarter basically a first quarter score. My post said 43 seconds into the second quarter on. Tennessee outscored them 10-6. It doesn’t change the outcome but it proves Georgia didn’t dominate. Go back and check the play by play statistics on the game and you can see how the defense held their offense in check from that point in . My head is above ground and proves Georgia got a great start and held on. Tennessee will beat Georgia in a rematch if it happens

 

[SLODAWG]

You didn’t read my post or obviously watch the game. The one TD Georgia scored was 43 seconds into the second quarter basically a first quarter score. My post said 43 seconds into the second quarter on. Tennessee outscored them 10-6. It doesn’t change the outcome but it proves Georgia didn’t dominate. Go back and check the play by play statistics on the game and you can see how the defense held their offense in check from that point in . My head is above ground and proves Georgia got a great start and held on. Tennessee will beat Georgia in a rematch if it happens

Georgia’s start wasn't that great. They fumbled about 5 plays in to the game and the Vols turned it in to points.