Uh .... Huh?

[orangewizard98]

Tennessee didn't deserve a #2 seed, in my opinion. I thought we would be a 4 seed and I'm stunned at what happened.

I agree with the Gator fan on that. I do find it funny how he talks about the Gators playing the beating the Big East Tourney champs, the team that went to the semis in the ACC Tourney...lol...That does make things sound better. Truth is, they beat a Syracuse team that was fortunate to go on a hot streak once they got to the NCAAT or they would be headed to the NIT. They were thought to be on the outside looking before the year started based on their play for the entire season. Wake Forest was terrible all year. What was thier conference record again? Thye got lucky and had a couple good games in the tourney.

But again, I agree that we don't belong with a 2 seed.

Wintrop is not a cup-cake. Many were picking them as a possible team that could make some noise in the tourny before the selections came out. The beat Marquette, the played Bama tough, they played Memphis tough, etc. They ARE capable of beating Tennessee if we don;t come out and play well. With that said, I think we're going to the Sweet 16 and our season probably ends there.

 

[kxtop]

You just must love all the TV experts with thier post selection analysis, all those opinions about the number 2 seed and nobody cares...just more hot air!

 

[vols2345]

like I have been saying for the past week. The committe weighs their selections very heavily on sos and rpi. thats why UT got a 2 seed.

 

[Volunteer]

lawgator,
as soon as the seedings came out, Bilas immediately started undressing UT. I agree, there are a lot out there that want to see UT fall because they feel they are undeserving of the seed.

I think it was a gift as well, it goes to show how much RPI plays into it, my only thought though is WHEN does the RPI stop calculating? That #6 ranking in the RPI was after the regular season and not after the tournament, which IMO would have brought UT down a tad to the seed they probably deserved, a #3 or 4.

Regardless, it is done, UT is a 2.

 

[lawgator1]

lawgator,
as soon as the seedings came out, Bilas immediately started undressing UT. I agree, there are a lot out there that want to see UT fall because they feel they are undeserving of the seed.

I think it was a gift as well, it goes to show how much RPI plays into it, my only thought though is WHEN does the RPI stop calculating? That #6 ranking in the RPI was after the regular season and not after the tournament, which IMO would have brought UT down a tad to the seed they probably deserved, a #3 or 4.

Regardless, it is done, UT is a 2.

I noticed that, too, and was wondering about it. Hard to see how you were # 6 a week ago and stayed there after so many other teams around you advanced a lot further. I will be curious to see if it changes on Monday.

 

[Volunteer]

I believe they quit calculating it once the tourney is set, what would be the point anyway?

 

[BIG T]

look, I hate Florida as much as any law-abiding UT fan, but unless they're playing each other, I root for SEC teams in the tournament. When they do well, it's good for the conference, and good for everyone involved. So hats off to Florida for gutting out a tough, tough win over a determined South Carolina team today, and good luck to our 6 SEC representatives that are Dancing.

that being said, as stunned as I am by UT's #2 seed, how could everyone here not be overjoyed? Some people around here need to stop putting such a negative spin on everything and just let themselves enjoy some love from the NCAA for a change!

And I have found LawGator to be polite and respectful. A far cry from most Florida fans.

I WILL AGREE TOTALLY WITH THIS!!!!! I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND LAWGATOR TO BE FAIR AND RESPECTABLE!!!!! :thumbsup:I WILL STILL TAKE A #2 THOUGH.......

 

[dan4vols]

to me, and Im shootin in the dark here, but it would make the most sense to me, that they stopped just after we beat UF. That to me is where we were the strongest in our last 10 games.

 

[lawgator1]

I WILL AGREE TOTALLY WITH THIS!!!!! I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND LAWGATOR TO BE FAIR AND RESPECTABLE!!!!! :thumbsup:I WILL STILL TAKE A #2 THOUGH.......

Alright, alright, I guess I got a little carried away with antagonizing a bit on this. I just truly was very, very surprised by that seeding. But it doesn't matter what we think. The bracket is set and now you have to play the games, right?

I will be rooting for UT, unless and until they meet up with UF. Would be a nice problem to have ...

 

[indyvol15]

I respect that. I said solid 4 and maybe even a 3, which is saying you ought to be in Sweet 16. But a 2? Come on!

I have to agree. Seems like Big MO has left us. Hopefully CBP can get the boys fired up again for one last run.

40 minutes of hell needs to rear its head once again.

 

[utvolpj]

Alright, alright, I guess I got a little carried away with antagonizing a bit on this. I just truly was very, very surprised by that seeding. But it doesn't matter what we think. The bracket is set and now you have to play the games, right?

I will be rooting for UT, unless and until they meet up with UF. Would be a nice problem to have ...

If UT and UF are playing I think we have both done OK in the tourney.

 

[General Jack]

They probably are... Tennessee getting a 2-seed is absolutely insane. I would say I support it regardless but I get the feeling it came at the expense of my Zags, who now have to play either San Diego State or Indiana in the second round (both very dangerous teams) then probably UCLA after that. Oh well... Win it to stay in it, I guess.

Sorry, Gonzaga isn't that great. Good yes, great, no. One Bobby Brady/70s show/porn 'stash off night away from the off season. Now that they can't sneak up on anybody the joke's up.

On any given night they can beat the VOLS, sure, 'cause we're not exactly unstoppable. But match up the big wins, RPIs... resume's in general, and the VOLs are more deserving of the 2 than the 'zags.

 

[Bachus]

I understand that...LSU had a pretty weak non-conference schedule. Come to think of it, so did UF. Apparently, people who know a lot more about basketball than you and your gator and carolina fan friends, believe that beating Texas on the road, playing tough @ OSU, and giving Memphis a run for their money on the road, on top of what we did in the SEC East, is deserving of a #2 seed.

Huh?

LSU played at West Virginia, Houston, Northern Iowa, Cincinnati, at Ohio State, and at Connecticut and played the 14th toughest schedule in the country. And that's *weak*!?

LSU won at West Virginia, played Ohio St and Connecticut down to the buzzer, beat *you*, won the SEC, actually won a game in the tourney, and has the #11 RPI and yet only gets the last #4 seed while TN gets a #2 seed. What exactly was the committee smoking?

 

[vols2345]

Huh?

LSU played at West Virginia, Houston, Northern Iowa, Cincinnati, at Ohio State, and at Connecticut and played the 14th toughest schedule in the country. And that's *weak*!?

LSU won at West Virginia, played Ohio St and Connecticut down to the buzzer, beat *you*, won the SEC, actually won a game in the tourney, and has the #11 RPI and yet only gets the last #4 seed while TN gets a #2 seed. What exactly was the committee smoking?

last time i checked 3 is better then 14 and 6 is better then 11. if you like it or not, sos and rpi weigh heavly and the polls pretty much mean jack crap. thats why tennessee got the 2 seed and lsu got the 4. i dont see why people are dwellin on it though. its time to play the games. the seeds are set and as much as you hate it, you cant change it. if lsu is better then UT, we will find out in two weeks. the best team wins all the time in the ncaa tourney.

 

[WA_Vol]

Huh?

LSU played at West Virginia, Houston, Northern Iowa, Cincinnati, at Ohio State, and at Connecticut and played the 14th toughest schedule in the country. And that's *weak*!?

LSU won at West Virginia, played Ohio St and Connecticut down to the buzzer, beat *you*, won the SEC, actually won a game in the tourney, and has the #11 RPI and yet only gets the last #4 seed while TN gets a #2 seed. What exactly was the committee smoking?

LSU has a #13 rpi not #11, which would make them the highest #4 seed. They got stuck in that bracket because there wasn't any other sec teams there.

 

[milohimself]

Sorry, Gonzaga isn't that great. Good yes, great, no. One Bobby Brady/70s show/porn 'stash off night away from the off season. Now that they can't sneak up on anybody the joke's up.

On any given night they can beat the VOLS, sure, 'cause we're not exactly unstoppable. But match up the big wins, RPIs... resume's in general, and the VOLs are more deserving of the 2 than the 'zags.

Allow me to quote Tony Kornheiser... "You don't lose 4 of your last 6 games and get a 2 seed. It just doesn't work that way." And at that point, if Tennessee doesn't get the 2 spot, who does? Gonzaga logically has to be the most probable choice. Oh well. It is what it is... Tennessee has about the closest thing to a free ride to the Sweet 16 a team can get, and any team would be very hard-pressed to make it past the Sweet 16.

 

[General Jack]

Allow me to quote Tony Kornheiser... "You don't lose 4 of your last 6 games and get a 2 seed. It just doesn't work that way." And at that point, if Tennessee doesn't get the 2 spot, who does? Gonzaga logically has to be the most probable choice. Oh well. It is what it is... Tennessee has about the closest thing to a free ride to the Sweet 16 a team can get, and any team would be very hard-pressed to make it past the Sweet 16.

Yes, the committee was very generous to the VOLS.

 

[milohimself]

Oh well. What's done is done, right? At least NCAA Basketball is settled on the field of play, unlike our other favorite sport.

 

[rwemyss]

Oh well. What's done is done, right? At least NCAA Basketball is settled on the field of play, unlike our other favorite sport.

You're right about that... but the committee still has to consider the SEASON as a whole in their seeding strategy. The Vols were very impressive at times this year, sometimes not getting the same press that a more well known team would have gotten for the same feat (I'm talking early here, like the TX win) because of the "yeah right, that's a fluke" factor.

 

[therealUT]

Allow me to quote Tony Kornheiser... "You don't lose 4 of your last 6 games and get a 2 seed. It just doesn't work that way." And at that point, if Tennessee doesn't get the 2 spot, who does? Gonzaga logically has to be the most probable choice. Oh well. It is what it is... Tennessee has about the closest thing to a free ride to the Sweet 16 a team can get, and any team would be very hard-pressed to make it past the Sweet 16.

Yes, UT lost 4 of their last 6, however, in their last 10 they beat UK at Rupp, UF in Florida, and Vandy in Nashville (not the easiest place to play.) Gonzaga might have won their last 10, however, their last 10 games included 1 point wins over Loyola Marymount and St. Mary's, and other 8 games came against San Diego (twice), Santa Clara, Loyola Marymount (again,) Pepperdine, Portland, San Francisco, and Stanford (not even top 50 RPI this season.) Oh, and Gonzaga's largest margin of victory during this stretch, 16 points against San Diego. I understand that Gonzaga won their conference, and that is tough, however, mid major and lower conference winners are always relegated to seeds about 10 through 16. For some reason, the nation has fallen in love with the Bulldogs...most overhyped team of the past half decade.

 

[rwemyss]

Yes, UT lost 4 of their last 6, however, in their last 10 they beat UK at Rupp, UF in Florida, and Vandy in Nashville (not the easiest place to play.) Gonzaga might have won their last 10, however, their last 10 games included 1 point wins over Loyola Marymount and St. Mary's, and other 8 games came against San Diego (twice), Santa Clara, Loyola Marymount (again,) Pepperdine, Portland, San Francisco, and Stanford (not even top 50 RPI this season.) Oh, and Gonzaga's largest margin of victory during this stretch, 16 points against San Diego. I understand that Gonzaga won their conference, and that is tough, however, mid major and lower conference winners are always relegated to seeds about 10 through 16. For some reason, the nation has fallen in love with the Bulldogs...most overhyped team of the past half decade.

It is all about that little girl 'stache... worst look ever.

 

[GAVol]

I hate to pile on Gonzaga, but I agree completely. Gonzaga has got to be the most overexposed mid-major in the history of college basketball. It's like the media got tired of Gonzaga making tournament runs, so they all got together and decided to put them in the top 10 and talk about them all the time so they would look smart just in case they made the Sweet 16.

Don't get me wrong, they are a really nice team and Morrison is a great player, but I'm not quite buying them.

 

[therealUT]

I hate to pile on Gonzaga, but I agree completely. Gonzaga has got to be the most overexposed mid-major in the history of college basketball. It's like the media got tired of Gonzaga making tournament runs, so they all got together and decided to put them in the top 10 and talk about them all the time so they would look smart just in case they made the Sweet 16.

Don't get me wrong, they are a really nice team and Morrison is a great player, but I'm not quite buying them.

Adam Morrison is Bryce Drew/Dan Dickau with national exposure. I still remember when Jason Connelly led the nation in scoring by a margin of over 5 ppg, then transfered to Mizzou and averaged less than 20 a game in the Big XII.

 

[rwemyss]

Adam Morrison is Bryce Drew/Dan Dickau with national exposure. I still remember when Jason Connelly led the nation in scoring by a margin of over 5 ppg, then transfered to Mizzou and averaged less than 20 a game in the Big XII.

That relates to what I think about Florida's high PPG average as a team... when you play the nonconf schedule they had it is easy to score 85 PPG.

 

[volinbham]

That relates to what I think about Florida's high PPG average as a team... when you play the nonconf schedule they had it is easy to score 85 PPG.

Haven't looked at it recently but their Margin of Victory (MOV) was high overall but 2nd in the SEC about 2/3rds of the way through -- in other words, beat the crap out of non-conf. teams.

That said, they did win the SEC tourney and have the talent to make a run.