unemployment up to 9.6%

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volinbham said:
I'd like to see the research on that.
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As I said, it's a personal discovery on my personal journey, and it's what my kids like. They have a yard. They beg to go to the nearby park with swings, climbing frames, bike ramps, but most especially, other kids.
 
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MG1968 said:
I have no idea either, but that bottom picture is clearly a small town and not some major urban center. It almost looks like downtown LaFollette, TN.
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I am pretty sure its Athens GA

and Dorski is right,

South of France and most of Italy is country
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I have no idea what you're talking about and what is Garmish?
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How is urbanism #1 similar to urbanism #2?

Usually military members who go to Garmisch (forgive original spelling) speak a language or go for snowboarding. I don't see you as an X-Gamer there, BPV.
 
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utgibbs said:
As I said, it's a personal discovery on my personal journey, and it's what my kids like. They have a yard. They beg to go to the nearby park with swings, climbing frames, bike ramps, but most especially, other kids.
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and such parks don't exist in suburbia?
 
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utgibbs said:
As I said, it's a personal discovery on my personal journey, and it's what my kids like. They have a yard. They beg to go to the nearby park with swings, climbing frames, bike ramps, but most especially, other kids.
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and this is the problem, your voyage of self-discovery is yours, not anybody else'. However, you would seek to have the government force your vision of what is right on everybody else whether they shared your vision or not.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
I am pretty sure its Athens GA

and Dorski is right,

South of France and most of Italy is country
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With villages that have a Carrefour, a Michelin star restaurant, and the amenities of civilized life available on foot. Or in other words - walkable communities!

According to droski's data most people live in urban areas......

Fine, but the point is Urbanism, the type and structure of the urban environment.
 
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MG1968 said:
and this is the problem, your voyage of self-discovery is yours, not anybody else'. However, you would seek to have the government force your vision of what is right on everybody else whether they shared your vision or not.
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Huh? It seems the government has forced a vision of endless cars on us and built our infrastructure not based on human needs but based on the needs of the automobile.

Which is to say built not on the needs of people, but built to satisfy the needs of Capital.

Not my vision, nor Jerry Reed's vision, at all.....
 
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utgibbs said:
With villages that have a Carrefour, a Michelin star restaurant, and the amenities of civilized life available on foot. Or in other words - walkable communities!
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just flat out false. yes there usually is some downtown area, but the overwelming majority of people live within driving distance on the outskirts and the majority don't have things like michelin rated restaurants (which is about as unimportant as an amenity as i could possibly think of). just like the US. next time you travel in europe i suggest driving around a little rather than hitting every tourist trap walled 14th century town you find.
 
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droski said:
and such parks don't exist in suburbia?
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Not usually. But it's about the urban environment as a whole.

We have built our infrastructure to satisfy the needs of the car and not human needs. Which is to say, we have built to satisfy Capital and not people.
 
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utgibbs said:
With villages that have a Carrefour, a Michelin star restaurant, and the amenities of civilized life available on foot. Or in other words - walkable communities!

According to droski's data most people live in urban areas......

Fine, but the point is Urbanism, the type and structure of the urban environment.
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you are so wrong its sad.

File:CareffourSibiu.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what are these cars doing in parking lot! Its a French grocery store, they arent allowed to drive to it
 
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utgibbs said:
Huh? It seems the government has forced a vision of endless cars on us and built our infrastructure not based on human needs but based on the needs of the automobile.

Which is to say built not on the needs of people, but built to satisfy the needs of Capital.

Not my vision, nor Jerry Reed's vision, at all.....
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you really have no faith in people as individuals do you? whatever the gov't wants (by your theory) us lemmings will do and follow right? if your version of suburbia was clearly the best wouldn't there be a natural demand for it?
 
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utgibbs said:
Not usually. But it's about the urban environment as a whole.

We have built our infrastructure to satisfy the needs of the car and not human needs. Which is to say, we have built to satisfy Capital and not people.
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simply repeating this garbage doesn't start making it right.

and i see far better parks in suburbia than i do in urban areas. no comparison. far cleaner, far newer, and far less crime.
 
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hey, I got an idea, lets do like the Europeans, and walk down to the local IKEA and pick up some furniture and carry it on my kids back
 
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droski said:
just flat out false. yes there usually is some downtown area, but the overwelming majority of people live within driving distance on the outskirts and the majority don't have things like michelin rated restaurants (which is about as unimportant as an amenity as i could possibly think of). just like the US. next time you travel in europe i suggest driving around a little rather than hitting every tourist trap walled 14th century town you find.
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Hyperbole for effect, droski.

I've spent a considerable amount of time in Europe: on foot, on train, and in cars. I'll tell you the most miserable travel time I ever had - taking the ferry to England after a weekend in Dublin in rough water. Could not do that again at my age!
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
hey, I got an idea, lets do like the Europeans, and walk down to the local IKEA and pick up some furniture and carry it on my kids back
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Your stock is truly on the rise, VNSF. Love the Swedes - do a lot of business with those socialists. Can't stand IKEA and all things flatpack.
 
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utgibbs said:
The majority of the continent is. Droski, their major cities were built BEFORE CARS. Of course they are living in walkable communities. Hell, you don't even have to get on the Tube to visit every major attraction of London - Europe's largest city!

I used to think like you, droski, but I've discovered kids like parks more than yards, like playing in pools with other kids, in other words, they like community too.

As for education, don't get me started!
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Your avatar was not taken in a city. Do you take them out of the "walkable" paradise to get some open space? (IF these are even your kids. There is no way in heck that you are dragging them all over the planet.)
 
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droski said:
you really have no faith in people as individuals do you? whatever the gov't wants (by your theory) us lemmings will do and follow right? if your version of suburbia was clearly the best wouldn't there be a natural demand for it?
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Well, let's see:

Americans less happy today than 30 years ago: study | Reuters

CDC: Antidepressants most prescribed drugs in U.S. - CNN

This raises great questions about why we need a marketing industry in a supposed Capitalist nation.
 
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utgibbs said:
Well, let's see:

Americans less happy today than 30 years ago: study | Reuters

CDC: Antidepressants most prescribed drugs in U.S. - CNN

This raises great questions about why we need a marketing industry in a supposed Capitalist nation.
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2 South Korea
6 Russia
15 Belgium
18 France
19 People's Republic of China
22 Austria
36 Canada[10]
41 United States

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lots of countries you seem to think are doing things the right way ranked well higher than the united states.
 
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utgibbs said:
Well, let's see:

Americans less happy today than 30 years ago: study | Reuters

CDC: Antidepressants most prescribed drugs in U.S. - CNN

This raises great questions about why we need a marketing industry in a supposed Capitalist nation.
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Boneheaded points, but when did suburban living spring up?

Regardless, idiotic polls of that nature are pathetic. The cottage industry of antidepressants is simply pathetic and it exists for enormous numbers of reasons.
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utgibbs said:
Ouch. Your stock just took a big hit after all that good messaging to get it up too.

Shockingly ridiculous on every level.
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More ridiculous than two snapshots, each from a different country, to support a ridiculous generalization?
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I just realized Neyland Stadium is surrounded all kinds of parking lots and garages. Clearly this really troubled Phil Fulmer and led to his ten year championship drought. I notice they are now building a garage beside Fraternity Park. Looks like they'll be drinking more than usual to cope with the crippling depression.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
More ridiculous than two snapshots, each from a different country, to support a ridiculous generalization?
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Of course it is. It's not like people don't drive in Europe. Patently ridiculous. Stock down after a strong climb through the day.

None of you have actually seen / spent any real time in any European town / village etc. Because y'all cannot have intellectual honesty and say some of these things. Every village across Europe has Grannies and New Mums carting groceries home on foot, and not just a few, but droves everyday. Y'all might have stayed in some hotels in Frankfurt for four days, and gone to an Irish Pub in Kaiserslauten, but y'all don't KNOW Europe.
 
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