Uniform/Helmet/Shoe design thread (merged)

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Brave Volunteer said:
I imagine people said this same thing when we put T's on the helmets. Or when we checkered the endzones. Or when we did anything that deviated from the "norm." And for God's sake enough with the Alabama "what about-isms!" "Well what about Alabama? They don't do it!" I don't give a damn about what Alabama does. It's time we start carving our own path instead of trying to model everything THEY do! What works for them doesn't automatically apply to everybody else.
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You mean like WIN! We suck. Bama owns us. They are doing it right, we are doing it wrong. Changing uniforms is not going to produce wins. We better start doing what Bama does because they set the standard for every team in the SEC. Hey, at least we will look good in our new uniforms while we are losing to teams like Georgia State though.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Change is difficult especially as we get older.
When major changes take place in the business world, the following book is often required reading for the company’s employees. i had to read it Once after a corporate takeover.
Who Moved My Cheese? Book Summary by Spencer Johnson
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I agree with you but change for the sake of change doesn't always result in improvement. The change in a company logo, for example, doesn't necessarily produce imperical improvement in the company's profit margin. Change should result in an increase in units sold. Vols football need to increase their points per game and reduce their opponents points per game. New uniforms will not do that.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
I would imagine that DP will say that there are no major changes because the uniforms were already ordered way back. I’m curious if the new staff will do any drastic changes by next season.
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This is pretty much the gist of it, the uniforms are finalized in January, so I don't expect any changes to the standard home and away for this season.

Before the pandemic, UT was supposed to participate in a Nike throwback program on rivalry weekend in 2020, but Nike cancelled that uniform line when the pandemic disrupted their supply chain. Some of the sideline gear came out for a few teams anyway, but not for most. I've heard nothing to suggest this will happen in 2021. I have no idea what the throwback would have been, but I had heard that those matchups were going to be color-on-color and with the opponent having been Vanderbilt, I assume it would have been a traditional orange jersey.

Black jerseys were designed and approved for the 2021 season, but I think that order was cancelled in the coaching change. I know Heupel very much likes the Smokey Grey design that was worn 2015-17, but a set of those has not been manufactured since 2017. I'm not sure they have enough old supply on hand to do those and they definitely have not ordered matching helmets at this point.

I'm interested to see what happens beyond this year. They didn't do a ton of alternate stuff at UCF, black was already their standard. They had a light gray one season and then did home and road versions of their "space" alternates the last couple of years. They had black, white and gold helmets there.

As I've said for years, an orange helmet at some point would surprise me simply because of the difficulty in getting an orange helmet color and finish that will match the jerseys under stadium lights and on TV. Believe me, Nike and adidas have both tried over the years, working extensively on samples with helmet manufacturers as well as the Hydrographics company that has done a lot of the more innovative wrap designs over the last decade or so. It could happen at some point, but that's the reason Nike has never pushed an orange helmet design.
 
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Vols021 said:
I agree with you but change for the sake of change doesn't always result in improvement. The change in a company logo, for example, doesn't necessarily produce imperical improvement in the company's profit margin. Change should result in an increase in units sold. Vols football need to increase their points per game and reduce their opponents points per game. New uniforms will not do that.
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but why can’t they do both.
the university buying them different uniforms is just decoration for the fans and the players and recruits that like that stuff.
it takes no time away physically or mentally from the team’s practice patterns or game day performances.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
but why can’t they do both.
the university buying them different uniforms is just decoration for the fans and the players and recruits that like that stuff.
it takes no time away physically or mentally from the team’s practice patterns or game day performances.
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Why change? Most Vol fans like the white helmet with the orange power T, and the orange jerseys. It is what we loved growing up watching the Vols. Everyone that knows college football knows that Tennessee is playing when they see that uniform on TV. That is our identity. Not black or gray.
 
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Vols021 said:
Why change? Most Vol fans like the white helmet with the orange power T, and the orange jerseys. It is what we loved growing up watching the Vols. Everyone that knows college football knows that Tennessee is playing when they see that uniform on TV. That is our identity. Not black or gray.
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One game a year is all I’d be for.
just like I like checkerboarding the stadium but for only one game per year. Otherwise, all of our fans should always wear Orange, both home and away.
As for the uniforms, would love to see us wear an Orange helmet with a white T just one game a year.
I don’t care about the black or grey jerseys or the shoe color. But, if they do it, just for one game.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I imagine people said this same thing when we put T's on the helmets. Or when we checkered the endzones. Or when we did anything that deviated from the "norm." And for God's sake enough with the Alabama "what about-isms!" "Well what about Alabama? They don't do it!" I don't give a damn about what Alabama does. It's time we start carving our own path instead of trying to model everything THEY do! What works for them doesn't automatically apply to everybody else.
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I agree, but there’s no need to change our uniform right now IMO. Like I said, get white cleats, change the # font and I wouldn’t mind if we got rid of the orange collar on our white jerseys. Otherwise, I say keep the current template.
 
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Vols021 said:
Why change? Most Vol fans like the white helmet with the orange power T, and the orange jerseys. It is what we loved growing up watching the Vols. Everyone that knows college football knows that Tennessee is playing when they see that uniform on TV. That is our identity. Not black or gray.
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Our identity is whatever we decide it is. You talk as if its some outside force that keeps us from changing and therefore we should just comply. And if you think Bama winning has anything to do with the fact that they don't change up their uniforms, you are being incredibly short-sighted. Their winning has nothing to do with their uniforms, anymore than us losing was because we wore smokey gray or checkered Neyland. Programs win and lose because of the leadership thats in place! From the president of the school all the way down to the special teams assistant. Thats the difference between successful programs and programs that struggle. It has ZERO to do with a damn uniform.
 
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Vols021 said:
You mean like WIN! We suck. Bama owns us. They are doing it right, we are doing it wrong. Changing uniforms is not going to produce wins. We better start doing what Bama does because they set the standard for every team in the SEC. Hey, at least we will look good in our new uniforms while we are losing to teams like Georgia State though.
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Buck Fama
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Our identity is whatever we decide it is. You talk as if its some outside force that keeps us from changing and therefore we should just comply. And if you think Bama winning has anything to do with the fact that they don't change up their uniforms, you are being incredibly short-sighted. Their winning has nothing to do with their uniforms, anymore than us losing was because we wore smokey gray or checkered Neyland. Programs win and lose because of the leadership thats in place! From the president of the school all the way down to the special teams assistant. Thats the difference between successful programs and programs that struggle. It has ZERO to do with a damn uniform.
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:rolleyes: Fashionista fans. As long as we look pretty I guess.
 
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I love when people chime in on the uniform thread to tell people to discuss football like it makes a difference. It’s the same as posters bitching about people looking ahead to the Pitt or Florida game because we should be taking them one game at a time and be focusing on Bowling Green.
 
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Here's my opinion (not that it matters). Plenty of people are trying to follow an Alabama blueprint, but it doesn't work (for other teams). If you want to be more like Bama, it should be purely from a recruiting aspect. And even that only applies to the level of talent. In order to do that, you will have to be unique. You can't be the same as program XYZ. If some unique uniforms help you get over the hump with 2 or 3 elite recruits, then you do that. Tradition is great until top recruits don't give a sh!t about it. Then you need something else. Winning solves all issues, but you have got to get the players here first in order to start winning.
 
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bigl3327 said:
Here's my opinion (not that it matters). Plenty of people are trying to follow an Alabama blueprint, but it doesn't work (for other teams). If you want to be more like Bama, it should be purely from a recruiting aspect. And even that only applies to the level of talent. In order to do that, you will have to be unique. You can't be the same as program XYZ. If some unique uniforms help you get over the hump with 2 or 3 elite recruits, then you do that. Tradition is great until top recruits don't give a sh!t about it. Then you need something else. Winning solves all issues, but you have got to get the players here first in order to start winning.
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Spot on!

How many people right now are annoyed by the UT Baseball teams 15 different uniforms? "TRADITION TRADITION"!!! Doesn't seem to be stopping them from kicking ass does it?
 
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Lol at anyone who doesn’t think alternate jerseys every once in a while is a good thing. These kids love that stuff. It’s not like they are becoming UTs permanent colors…. Also I didn’t hear anyone complaining about the Baseball team wearing Orange, Gray, White…. All the colors lol.

Get over your old thought process.
 
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Speaking of Yankees, here’s what happens when one of the most iconic brands in any sport just trots an alternate uniform just because…
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If you’re gonna an alternate do it right. Don’t just throw black paint over a uniform and call it an alternate. It hurts to say this, but Florida has done the best job of anyone using alternate uniforms the last few years, definitely don’t mean those Gator skins, but the retro alternates and mixing up of helmets have been a good change without being too much Oregon.
 
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