United Airlines New Seating Chart

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Apparently the story about pill pushing and sex favors...potentially could be a different doctor.

Same first and last name but different middle names.
 
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golfballs said:
To be honest, you seem to be the one feigning outrage
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No outrage from me.

Kinda scratching my head how people just seem to always find someone else to blame. Sure united has some fault. But so does the passenger.

Is there a place of business that has security enforcers where you cab be asked to leave by the owners/authorities where you can say no and then not expect to be removed by security?

Once this guy refused to leave the next step is to physically remove him.

Nothing outlandish about my position. My perspective being different from yours doesn't mean I'm outraged. Just view it differently. Maybe some think I'm siding with united and that's not true. I just think this doctor is an idiot.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Outrage over removing a passenger from a flight who refused to leave when asked? Really? That outraged you?

False narrative: He was just a doctor trying to get home to his patients. As if he was sitting there and then unexpectedly gets yanked and beaten.
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Let's divide this up a bit for the sake of context. A guy pays for a ticket, boards his plane, gets in his seat and is good to go. Now somebody from the airlines says he has to leave and somebody else is getting his seat.

Ok, right now we've got serious BS. This is, IMO, where most of the outrage starts and there's nothing feigned about it...it's pure, undiluted bovine feces and basically everybody feels this way to some degree. I don't care if the guy walked out smiling and giving out hugs that scenario is garbage and it's on the airline's head.

So now we're at how it all went down and it was pretty ugly. The outrage here, and it need not be feigned, is that not only can someone do nothing wrong and have gone through the rarely less than considerable ordeal of getting oneself on a plane but now can obviously have yourself violently removed...all because the airline can't get their poo together enough to have paying customers stay on the damn plane.

I think what this guy mostly did was bring to the fore something that rather pizzes a lot of people off anyway.

Personally I'm for a volunteer lottery. If an airline overbooks (their fault, screw em) the person(s) opting to get off the plane get to choose from 5 envelopes. In these envelopes are checks (no miles/vouchers/etc, checks made out to cash) 1500, 2000, 3000, 5000 & 10000. (yes, 10K) If the airlines thinks that's too much then don't overbook.

I think this approach would have two advantages; getting people to volunteer to leave the plane would become much easier and the airlines might try to do a better job of not having to tell people that have tickets for a plane they don't, you know, actually have tickets for a plane.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
Also, you can imagine how this is playing out in China where United is trying to grow their market share. Guess those plans have gone up in flames.
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China is one area where they actually could be hurt.

Domestically, I really question how badly they will be hurt. Social media mobs usually disperse pretty quickly; that appears to be inherent when they use a medium that limits itself to 140 characters or has so much new information hitting it all the time. People's attention spans generally speaking are short, and they appear to be even shorter on social media. Somebody else will do something stupid and the outrage will move on to that.

If you live close to a United hub (Chicago, Newark, etc.) your options as far as using other airlines are limited for direct flights. Their customers with any sort of status are likely to remain with them.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I think it's my disdain for social media mobs, fake outrage and false narratives.
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I understand where you are coming from because I have that same disdain. Of course there is virtue signaling on social media and I question how truly "outraged" people with no connection to this man are (sympathetic maybe, but not outraged), but it doesn't mean that they are wrong.

Just because you are inclined to dislike the source of the outrage does not mean they are wrong.
 
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