Unsealed Docs Show Planned Parenthood Charged $25G for Body Parts, Blood Samples within months

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GoBigOrangeUT said:
At what point did my biology get shot down? You admitted that the fetus isn’t human, you stated it will become human.
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You were arguing biology. In biology human = Homo sapiens. Feel free to look it up. You switched to philosophy when that lost traction and are now just going full on circular.

My philosophy argument clearly shows my biological crap wasn’t bull ****! LMAO
 
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hog88 said:
I agree it would be the poor doing the selling but just like prostitution, it's yours you should have the right to sell it.
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Yeah but when you give that away for 500 you still get it back at the end of the night. Yes, it may be a little more beat up and like throwing a hot dog down a hallway but you still get it back.


Once the kidney is gone it's gone man.

Where as you can beat that little kitty up, smack it, hit it, rub it down and with some good ole plastic surgery that kitty will pure like a baby kitten again.

But that organ ain't coming back.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Take human out of it for the philosophers.

It’s a Homo sapiens. It is genetically the same as we are. It isn’t a raspberry.
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No I’ll leave it in and add that all civilizations protect the old and their young. ( their past and their future ) We have just shut down a country trying to protect the old but we don’t even blink at the amount of “ raspberries” ( idiotic ) that we kill each and every year .
 
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VolStrom said:
I can "what if" anything. You made a blanket statement that no one should get healthcare unless they can pay for it so I gave you 2 examples of people that should get it. I can "what if" you all day long about who should or should not get healthcare. Apparently you have some sort of stick up your butt about who is entitled to have things like broken bones repaired and who needs to set it with a 2x2 and some duct tape.
I'm not a liberal that wants to give free crap to anyone that wants it, but I'm certainly not a hard ass that doesn't have some compassion either.
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I'll make it simple for you. If you can't pay for your healthcare, providers shouldn't be forced to give it to you. That is slavery.
 
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NEOCON said:
Yeah but when you give that away for 500 you still get it back at the end of the night. Yes, it may be a little more beat up and like throwing a hot dog down a hallway but you still get it back.


Once the kidney is gone it's gone man.

Where as you can beat that little kitty up, smack it, hit it, rub it down and with some good ole plastic surgery that kitty will pure like a baby kitten again.

But that organ ain't coming back.
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All good points but still, what's yours you should have the right to sell.
 
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hog88 said:
I'll make it simple for you. If you can't pay for your healthcare, providers shouldn't be forced to give it to you. That is slavery.
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I'd bet you and all of your family don't pay for your own healthcare.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but there are very few people that pay for their own healthcare out of pocket. I never did when I was working but now I do and it's expensive and I don't like it.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'd bet you and all of your family don't pay for your own healthcare.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but there are very few people that pay for their own healthcare out of pocket. I never did when I was working but now I do and it's expensive and I don't like it.
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I pay for my and my wife's health insurance. We've been through this already.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Unless something prevents that yes it’s going to grow into a person. That is why human fetuses are unique from other mammalian fetuses.

Some value them. Many apparently don’t 🤷‍♂️
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I value the rights of the already born over the possibility of the unborn. Consent of the female to carry to term is required.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I value the rights of the already born over the possibility of the unborn. Consent of the female to carry to term is required.
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Now you’ve segued over to citizen or person. Which is another dismissive goto supporting the “just a clump of cells” broken ass statement.

The fetus is a biological unborn Homo Sapiens. No other unborn fetus from another mammal has that attribute.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'd bet you and all of your family don't pay for your own healthcare.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but there are very few people that pay for their own healthcare out of pocket. I never did when I was working but now I do and it's expensive and I don't like it.
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I pay almost 1,400 a month for my family. Whole thing is on me as I am the employer.

We paid just over 500 pre obamacare.

I have dropped over 100k since the bill was passed.

My only point, this sucks!!!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Maybe. But then let’s call a spade a spade. We aren’t talking my body my choice. We’re talking planned population control. Hell if that’s the path we’re on let’s get natural breeding out of the equation and go full on eugenics. If we’re gonna do it let’s do it right!
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You and I aren't women so it's not up to us to dictate the narrative as far as "my body my choice."

You're fooling yourself if you think this is one way or the other.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You and I aren't women so it's not up to us to dictate the narrative as far as "my body my choice."

You're fooling yourself if you think this is one way or the other.
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You’re assuming I’m pro life. I’m actually pro choice and I recognize that there is most definitely a medical need for abortion. The problem I have is the advocacy of the unborn. I couldn’t care less if people abort using the day after pill or some short time after that.

However the pro choicer’s have pushed it to an all or nothing on what’s allowed. Which minimizes the advocacy for the unborn which is my only real concern here. Thus if they want to push a dichotomy I’ll side with the pro lifers on this one.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Outside of rape, the female gave consent when she opened her legs. Life is the consequence of that action.
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It takes two to tango. It’s unrealistic to say woman you will give birth to this child while letting the man off without any repercussions. They don’t have to get married and live happily ever after however financial support thru the birth process is absolutely reasonable. If the kid goes up for adoption then it’s settled there.
 
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What happens if medical technology advanced to the point that the raspberry sized fetus can survive outside of the mother? Is it right to complete their development in a laboratory if the mother isn't willing to do it?

Right now, the viable late terms that are aborted aren't being saved. Seems like the partially developed would have to always be put into artificial wombs rather than forcing mothers to carry them. More of me sitting on the fence and leaning toward believing that it's all beyond the scope and ability of government to solve. Perhaps the mothers should be allowed to sell the developing being inside of them to the highest bidder.
 
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Texas to Fully End Taxpayer Funding of Planned Parenthood

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Planned Parenthood facilities in Texas will no longer receive taxpayer funds through the Medicaid program beginning February 3.

The state denied the abortion provider’s request to continue to receive Medicaid reimbursement funding for its clinics, as Catholic News Agency observed.

Texas to Fully End Taxpayer Funding of Planned Parenthood
 
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