Uros Plavsic commits to Tennessee

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BruinVol said:
With Soloman there were rumors that part of his waiver request included the allegation that michigan pushed him into playing with an injury.

That’s a perfect example of a waiver where the school being left wouldn’t help. They wouldn’t admit to that. No chance
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Sure, but there was never an assumption that I saw that Michigan was indifferent to losing Solomon.

If the presumed assumption of a few is that ASU didn't even want to keep Plavsic, then it wouldn't seem he'd need to present any damning evidence against ASU. He'd just simply apply for immediate eligibility, ASU supports his endeavor and acknowledges him as a student in good academic and civil standing, and everyone moves on. See Burns, DJ.

What BTO is insinuating, is rather that ASU was more than happy to keep Plavsic, probably preferred it, and his decision to transfer has sparked the ire of the current staff in place which has led them to being difficult in the process.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Sure, but there was never an assumption that I saw that Michigan was indifferent to losing Solomon.

If the presumed assumption of a few is that ASU didn't even want to keep Plavsic, then it wouldn't seem he'd need to present any damning evidence against ASU. He'd just simply apply for immediate eligibility, ASU supports his endeavor and acknowledges him as a student in good academic and civil standing, and everyone moves on. See Burns, DJ.

What BTO is insinuating, is rather that ASU was more than happy to keep Plavsic, probably preferred it, and his decision to transfer has sparked the ire of the current staff in place which has led them to being difficult in the process.
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Oh I think ASU would have kept him but weren’t dying to keep him as evidenced by them failing to retain his mentor.

We need to remember that it isn’t as simple as the school supporting the transfer to get a waiver. There also has to be mitigating circumstances and it also helps if both schools and players agrees with those circumstances
 
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BruinVol said:
Oh I think ASU would have kept him but weren’t dying to keep him as evidenced by them failing to retaining his mentor.

We need to remember that it isn’t as simple as the school supporting the transfer to get a waiver. There also has to be mitigating circumstances and it also helps if both schools and players agrees with those circumstances
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And if that’s all that’s needed a case could be made he needs to be near his guardian Drazen Zlovaric, what reason does ASU have not to support that and agree he needs to be closer to his support system and “home”?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And if that’s all that’s needed a case could be made he needs to be near his guardian Drazen Zlovaric, what reason does ASU have not to support that and agree he needs to be closer to his support system and “home”?
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To me, it is just as simple as that. He came to the U.S., and had a support system in Tennessee. He followed a coach who was a major part of his support system. When that coach left, it made perfect sense to come back in this direction. This case is just not the same as someone who already spoke the language and understood the culture.
 
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i2amavol said:
To me, it is just as simple as that. He came to the U.S., and had a support system in Tennessee. He followed a coach who was a major part of his support system. When that coach left, it made perfect sense to come back in this direction. This case is just not the same as someone who already spoke the language and understood the culture.
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Agreed, and imo that falls as much under mitigating circumstances as failed drug tests, or crap talking on a message board.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And if that’s all that’s needed a case could be made he needs to be near his guardian Drazen Zlovaric, what reason does ASU have not to support that and agree he needs to be closer to his support system and “home”?
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I have answered that same question stated differently many times. I don’t Believe the ncaa is going to allow the coach leaving to be enough and I firmly believe there must be more to get the waiver.
 
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BruinVol said:
Hell a failed drug test is never going to be a mitigating circumstance.
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Seemed like you inferred Burns having issues and getting closer to home alluded to that...so a generic statement of “this kid has struggled and would benefit from moving closer to home” would be enough to satisfy the NCAA?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Seemed like you inferred Burns having issues and getting closer to home alluded to that...so a generic statement of “this kid has struggled and would benefit from moving closer to home” would be enough to satisfy the NCAA?
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I suggested that Burns attending counseling might have helped him with the waiver
 
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BruinVol said:
I suggested that Burns attending counseling might have helped him with the waiver
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But yet we have no idea if he did...so assuming he didn’t what’s in that request? Or do we assume Plavsic maybe attended counseling for depression from being away from his “host family?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
But yet we have no idea if he did...so assuming he didn’t what’s in that request? Or do we assume Plavsic maybe attended counseling for depression from being away from his “host family?
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Well of course I don’t know in either case but what I do know is a failed drug test means mandatory counseling and if that shows a record of depression that helps build a case for going back home
 
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Roustabout said:
We did?
I’d really like to know how you know this.
Everything I heard was he was in the doghouse and being recruited over.
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D.J. Burns Declared Eligible To Play 2019-20 Season For Eagles - Winthrop University Athletics

"First of all, I would like to thank Coach Barnes, his staff, and the University of Tennessee athletic department for the classy way with which they have handled the process of me departing the university, as well as assisting with a smooth transition to Winthrop University," stated Burns.
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calban said:
It's sorta comical how we can get these 10 page arguments on subjects where there are little or no known facts and NCAA guidelines on the matter are so vague they could refer to clogging lessons on HeeHaw.
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I agree. That’s why assumptions about cases shouldn’t be made. We simply don’t have any idea what is being said in these waivers and if those things are even true if we did know.
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree. That’s why assumptions about cases shouldn’t be made. We simply don’t have any idea what is being said in these waivers and if those things are even true if we did know.
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A lot of it comes down to the nature of our culture. You're 'Guilty until proven innocent' if Rumors arise.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Except, your entire argument has been based around assumptions, and in turn derailed this thread.
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Lol

Literally all my post have said we don’t know the truth/specifics about the request. You really need to read closer or get better at reading comprehension my Friend
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Literally all my post have said we don’t know the truth/specifics about the request. You really need to read closer or get better at reading comprehension my Friend
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Yeah, well on this exact same page of the thread, you also said THIS, with no proof that it ever happened. That's called an assumption.

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I suggested that Burns attending counseling might have helped him with the waive
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TheMookieMonster said:
Yeah, well on this exact same page of the thread, you also said THIS, with no proof that it ever happened. That's called an assumption.
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Yes I suggested that was possible based on the fact that when a player fails a drug test there is mandated counseling that comes with that. I didn’t say it happened just a possibility.


You see that’s the difference between making an assumption and talking about a possibility.
 
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let's all just hug it out and send positive vibes Plavsics' way? The AA is the AA they will do what they do when they do it. I am sure Barnes and the AD are on top of this and are preparing the guys. Maybe we get a miracle this weekend to distract us from this for a bit.
 
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