US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

[zeppelin128]

@AM64 , I actually have hope we can turn things around in my lifetime. That's not to say we'll all be holding hands and singing kumbayah, nor should we.

The left needs the right's pragmatism and restraint to keep it in check. The right needs the left's idealism and visioning to keep from stagnating. It's all two sides of the same coin.

But it's going to take people breaking away from each side's purity tests and absolutism and being kind to those doing the same on the other side. Or if not kind, at least respectful.

I still believe there are more people out there who are ready to break free of party and media control than we realize. We just have to find them and stick together.

There happens to be someone running for President right now that advocates this very thing...They call him Mayor Pete.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

There happens to be someone running for President right now that advocates this very thing...They call him Mayor Pete.

Lol

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[Pacer92]

Deja vu… remember when the US was blaming the Russians and Ukrainians for shooing down a Malaysian plane?

Yep...same ole playbook.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Here we go:

Video of 'surface to air missile' hitting Ukrainian plane pre-crash | Daily Mail Online

 

[NurseGoodVol]

You skipped over the whole "imminent threat" part.
It was Trump who said multiple times that he took the action because of "imminent threat".
If that's true, congress should be informed.
If it's not true, which is increasingly appearing to be the case, Trump should stop lying.

The easiest way to have a mission fail is to inform Congress.

 

[Mick]

The easiest way to have a mission fail is to inform Congress.

Do you have examples?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Do you have examples?

Senate intelligence Committee Mr James Wolfe indicted for leaking classified information to NYT.

 

[Mick]

Senate intelligence Committee Mr James Wolfe indicted for leaking classified information to NYT.

What was the mission that failed as a result of a congressional staffer leaking information to the NYT?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

What was the mission that failed as a result of a congressional staffer leaking information to the NYT?

I'm not sure specifically what he leaked to the reporter he was sleeping with, he was the head of security at the time.

 

[LouderVol]

No, you cannot be against a law and use that law to base your argument.

When arguing legality, yes you can.

 

[Mick]

I'm not sure specifically what he leaked to the reporter he was sleeping with, he was the head of security at the time.

I will take your comment as a general mistrust for the government and leave it at that.

 

[luthervol]

The easiest way to have a mission fail is to inform Congress.

I'm talking about justification/details after the fact.

Are you married to another poster in the PF?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I will take your comment as a general mistrust for the government and leave it at that.

Apparently it's been a problem for a long time.
Lawmakers: Leakers go to jail

 

[volfanjustin]

The easiest way to have a mission fail is to inform Congress.

There is no doubt in my mind had he informed Congress, one of the radical leftists would have leaked in to CNN or NYT and they absolutely would have reported it and likely used the "a senior White House official tells us....."

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I've seen this video before but after watching again there had to be some event that lead up to this. They had to see something it at least know something was about to happen to have the camera trained for the first flash.

For those familiar with missile systems, would that be something an average Joe, or Mohammed in this case, might be able to see streak across the sky?

The working theory is this video is a recording of the second strike. The first was preceding this, so I imagine a guy outside for a smoke sees a big flash and hears a boom, he thinks they’re shooting at US planes and he pulls his phone out.

 

[Pacer92]

WATCH Ukrainian jet BURNING during minute-long descent before crash near Tehran

 

[InVOLuntary]

What's stupid about asking him to inform congress of the imminent threats that he claims led to his decision?

Did Obama notify Congress of any immanent threats posed by bin Laden? We took out bin Laden for what he had done, not what he was preparing to do.

 

[volfanjustin]

Did Obama notify Congress of any immanent threats posed by bin Laden? We took out bin Laden for what he had done, not what he was preparing to do.

That's different

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I'm talking about justification/details after the fact.

Are you married to another poster in the PF?

Is that a real question or are you pulling my leg?

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm talking about justification/details after the fact.

Are you married to another poster in the PF?

 

[Electric Orange]

Reports: Iran Bulldozed Crash Site and Removed Virtually All Pieces of Downed Ukrainian Plane

 

[StarRaider]

I'm talking about justification/details after the fact.

Are you married to another poster in the PF?

Are you? What is your SSN and date of birth?

 

[InVOLuntary]

That's different

The bitching and moaning by the left is the equivalent of conservatives bitching and moaning about killing bin laden. Their hatred for trump causing them to side with a butcher, evil, scum terrorist should surprise me but sadly it doesn't. I've begun to expect the worst from the left wing communist like Luther and lawgator.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I will take your comment as a general mistrust for the government and leave it at that.

I have a distrust of government because I've been given reason to distrust them. I lost my home over one of Obama's polices when i was injured at work. So there's that.