US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

[Mick]

That’s a great meme , but we can discuss how my train of thought is wrong if you’d like . You know since we are going back through history placing blame on current events . Cause and effect and all that .

Easy, Just because Obama called him a terrorist doesn't mean he had to be killed. That was Trumps decision. Iran wasn't lobbing missiles and shooting down planes because Obama called Soleimani a terrorist. There is a direct cause and effect relationship between killing Soleimani and Iran attacking our bases in Iraq. That's why its called retaliation.

 

[0nelilreb]

Easy, Just because Obama called him a terrorist doesn't mean he had to be killed. That was Trumps decision. Iran wasn't lobbing missiles and shooting down planes because Obama called Soleimani a terrorist.

So it’s about choices that leads to cause and effect, right ? This is going to be a long road we are about to travel down .

 

[Mick]

So it’s about choices that leads to cause and effect, right ? This is going to be a long road we are about to travel down .

Only for you. Choices are the cause. Choices lead to effect.

 

[37L1]

You got huge problems calling this a murder.

He's got huge problems despite just that.

 

[0nelilreb]

Only for you. Choices lead to effect.

Agreed , those guys on that missile battery made a choice that caused an effect . Period . If you take it any further than that, we will be pulling those strings and unpacking this all day . The whole , it’s Trumps fault that Iran shot the plane down , is BS and you know it . If the tables were turned and the right was saying this you’d be screeching .

 

[joevol33]

Easy, Just because Obama called him a terrorist doesn't mean he had to be killed. That was Trumps decision. Iran wasn't lobbing missiles and shooting down planes because Obama called Soleimani a terrorist. There is a direct cause and effect relationship between killing Soleimani and Iran attacking our bases in Iraq. That's why its called retaliation.

But there was also reason for us killing him.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Iran is now admitting it shot down the plane. Surprised. Really thought they'd pull a Trump and just continue to deny in the face of all evidence. Pretty bad when the Iranian regime is more honest with its people than the Trump administration is with its people.

I don't believe this. Yes they shot it down but there was someone on that plane they wanted dead.

Don't you think you could've just brought the info and left Trump out of one post?? More honest? Just like when they put the mines on the tankers, got caught, yet denied it even after pictures?

You Democrats need to move to Iran.

 

[Mick]

Agreed , those guys on that missile battery made a choice that caused an effect . Period . If you take it any further than that, we will be pulling those strings and unpacking this all day . The whole , it’s Trumps fault that Iran shot the plane down , is BS and you know it . If the tables were turned and the right was saying this you’d be screeching .

Trump was the cause and the plane being shot down was an "indirect" effect. I don't think people, well I should say the posters here are "blaming" Trump directly. That's as simple as I can put it. The more complex view is Obama's policies toward Iran made Americans, Iraqis and the world safer than Trumps policies have.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

Not quite,

I'm not sure this was an accident, I have no proof mind you but neither do you. It is just as possible there was someone or something on that plane they didn't want getting out of Tehran. At worst it's just as good of an explanation as yours, maybe even better.

So why not just ground all flights and remove it or then from the flight? Some people make a conspiracy out of anything.

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump was the cause and the plane being shot down was an "indirect" effect. I don't think people, well I should say the posters here are "blaming" Trump directly. That's as simple as I can put it. The more complex view is Obama's policies toward Iran made Americans, Iraqis and the world safer than Trumps policies have.

Trump took out a terrorist , Iran retaliate by hitting the base. That was the whole show . Then they F’ed up and shot down a passenger plane flying at around 8k feet . Period . It’s funny to me that the screeching that it’s Trumps fault directly or indirectly is coming from in country . Iran doesn’t need propaganda when they have the left willing to do it for them , they just sit back and watch you guys work .

 

[joevol33]

Trump was the cause and the plane being shot down was an "indirect" effect. I don't think people, well I should say the posters here are "blaming" Trump directly. That's as simple as I can put it. The more complex view is Obama's policies toward Iran made Americans, Iraqis and the world safer than Trumps policies have.

Why are some of you so bent on blaming trump for iran killing innocent people? He didn't do that, period. Had they not killed an American, and instigated attacks on our embassy, your guys newfound hero wouldn't have gotten killed. It's on iran, not trump.

 

[Weezer]

Had Trump not killed Solieman this would not have happened. But for Trump,those people would be alive.

Truth.

Last night, I wondered if someone would try to lay this at Trump's feet. But then I thought, no, no one is that stupid. Guess I was wrong.

What's funny is all of the bad things that could be blamed on the last administration using this same circular logic, but the same people don't believe it should be applied in those instances.

 

[0nelilreb]

Last night, I wondered if someone would try to lay this at Trump's feet. But then I thought, no, no one is that stupid. Guess I was wrong.

What's funny is all of the bad things that could be blamed on the last administration using this same circular logic, but the same people don't believe it should be applied in those instances.

I never wondered , I said it days ago . The only thing I was curious about was , who was going to be first to do it . They had to let the situation die down a little before they started in I guess .

 

[Weezer]

Nancy and the Dems have been trying to usurp Presidential power for quite some time. The fact that their base is so hellbent on ditching Trump that they're willing to side against their own country is quite sad. I can understand disagreeing with an action. I cannot understand siding with an enemy state. It's gone beyond reason.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Trump took out a terrorist , Iran retaliate by hitting the base. That was the whole show . Then they F’ed up and shot down a passenger plane flying at around 8k feet . Period . It’s funny to me that the screeching that it’s Trumps fault directly or indirectly is coming from in country . Iran does need propaganda when they have the left willing to do it for them , they just sit back and watch you guys work .

I'm telling you someone was on that plane leaving Iran they wanted dead. Probably someone defecting. Their military isn't that smart but they know that no US military plane would be flying at 8k feet.

 

[joevol33]

Had Trump not killed Solieman this would not have happened. But for Trump,those people would be alive.

Truth.

Had they not killed an American, and provoked attacks on our embassy, trump wouldn't have killed him.


Truth. That your side refuses to even acknowledge.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

" never interfere with an enemy while they are busy tearing themselves apart" - Iran paraphrasing Art of War

Who needs propaganda with the Dimwits here to do it for them?

 

[Weezer]

Hell, if we're going to pull out circular logic and honesty with the American people, let's reopen the discussion on Benghazi. That should be fun. I've seen a lot of hypocrisy on this site, but the BS is hitting record levels.

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm telling you someone was on that plane leaving Iran they wanted dead. Probably someone defecting. Their military isn't that smart but they know that no US military plane would be flying at 8k feet.

They are saying they misidentify the plane as a cruise missile and that’s why they shot it down ... Bullsh!t , cough , cough

 

[Mick]

Trump took out a terrorist , Iran retaliate by hitting the base. That was the whole show . Then they F’ed up and shot down a passenger plane flying at around 8k feet . Period . It’s funny to me that the screeching that it’s Trumps fault directly or indirectly is coming from in country . Iran doesn’t need propaganda when they have the left willing to do it for them , they just sit back and watch you guys work .

The baby punch gif summed it up nice, didn't it. Two people fighting and the innocent get caught in the crossfire. You're incapable of understanding the complex view of "Policy" and effect. Obama and his "bad deal".

 

[Weezer]

Easy, Just because Obama called him a terrorist doesn't mean he had to be killed. That was Trumps decision. Iran wasn't lobbing missiles and shooting down planes because Obama called Soleimani a terrorist. There is a direct cause and effect relationship between killing Soleimani and Iran attacking our bases in Iraq. That's why its called retaliation.

This has to be one of your worst troll jobs ever. I expect better from you.

Just because Trump killed a terrorist doesn't mean Iran has to shoot down a civilian aircraft in their own airspace. Your cause and effect analogy may work for the missiles directed at US forces, but in no way covers the plane.

 

[Weezer]

The baby punch gif summed it up nice, didn't it. Two people fighting and the innocent get caught in the crossfire. You're incapable of understanding the complex view of "Policy" and effect. Obama and his "bad deal".

Except there was no crossfire.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

They are saying they misidentify the plane as a cruise missile and that’s why they shot it down ... Bullsh!t , cough , cough

Lol. Yea I don't believe that. Their radar readout would be showing a few things.


The "cruise missle" launched in Tehran
The "cruise missle" climbing.
The "cruise missle" very slow compared to its true 500+ MPH.

 

[RikidyBones]

Easy, Just because Obama called him a terrorist doesn't mean he had to be killed. That was Trumps decision. Iran wasn't lobbing missiles and shooting down planes because Obama called Soleimani a terrorist. There is a direct cause and effect relationship between killing Soleimani and Iran attacking our bases in Iraq. That's why its called retaliation.

you're not this dense. Quit the contrarian act.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

you're not this dense. Quit the contrarian act.

I don't think he is neither. He's just trolling. If anyone believes what he and others are typing on this subject they need admitted to an insane asylum.