US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

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lawgator1 said:
It's what he said. It's what several said on his behalf. He made it relevant to the question of whether this was a wise decision.
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Presidents say lots of things that aren't true. People only seem to care when the President doesn't match their politics.
 
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Weezer said:
I'd honestly be interested to know how much Congress knew about the Bin Laden raid? I'm glad we did it, but given operational security, was Congress consulted? I highly doubt they were. And we basically invaded an ally nation to pull that off. Yet no complaints from the left.
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Are you actually asking me that question or are you suggesting you should read the report. There were no complaints for killing Bin Laden from me. Should I complain about it? If it was the same you might have a point, but you don't. Should we have expected Pakistan or his home country of Saudi Arabia to avenge his death?
 
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Mick said:
Are you actually asking me that question or are you suggesting you should read the report. There were no complaints for killing Bin Laden from me. Should I complain about it? If it was the same you might have a point, but you don't. Should we have expected Pakistan or his home country of Saudi Arabia to avenge his death?
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Deflection.
 
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Interesting insights on Soleimani/Suleimani. Also runs counter to any contention that he would be doing any diplomacy to reduce tensions and why the Iraqi PM might have made such a claim defending him.

Secret Iranian Spy Cables Show How Qassim Suleimani Wielded His Enormous Power in Iraq

In response to widespread outrage over the strike that killed Suleimani, Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi, who is described in the MOIS documents as having a “special relationship” with Iran — and who enjoyed Suleimani’s personal backing when protests demanded his ouster this past fall — pledged on Friday to convene parliament to review the status of American troops in Iraq.
 
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volinbham said:
the new take on Soleimani...he was a dumb a@@. IOW downplay the threat he posed.

Tehran’s overrated military strategist made many political miscalculations
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Trump said he ordered the strike due to an imminent threat from Soleimani. This is why the timing is what it was, and why he did not advise Congress. His administration repeated that assertion over the weekend. The administration said this was urgent and had to be done now, that advisors even flew down to Mar-a-lago to brief Trump on the need to strike now.

Trump and his administration thereby set the standard for his decision.

I said at the time and say again, I am perfectly willing to accept the possibility that its true, that there was an attack on the immediate horizon (I'd say days or weeks) such that the best way to prevent it was to assassinate Soleimani. But if, in fact, there was no such imminent threat, then it becomes painfully obvious what this was about, and the nation simply cannot tolerate that.
 
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Mick said:
I'm not the ones trying to compare this to Bin laden or Gaddafi. That's you and your pals.
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lawgator1 said:
Trump said he ordered the strike due to an imminent threat from Soleimani. This is why the timing is what it was, and why he did not advise Congress. His administration repeated that assertion over the weekend. The administration said this was urgent and had to be done now, that advisors even flew down to Mar-a-lago to brief Trump on the need to strike now.

Trump and his administration thereby set the standard for his decision.

I said at the time and say again, I am perfectly willing to accept the possibility that its true, that there was an attack on the immediate horizon (I'd say days or weeks) such that the best way to prevent it was to assassinate Soleimani. But if, in fact, there was no such imminent threat, then it becomes painfully obvious what this was about, and the nation simply cannot tolerate that.
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Another impeachment coming?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump said he ordered the strike due to an imminent threat from Soleimani. This is why the timing is what it was, and why he did not advise Congress. His administration repeated that assertion over the weekend. The administration said this was urgent and had to be done now, that advisors even flew down to Mar-a-lago to brief Trump on the need to strike now.

Trump and his administration thereby set the standard for his decision.

I said at the time and say again, I am perfectly willing to accept the possibility that its true, that there was an attack on the immediate horizon (I'd say days or weeks) such that the best way to prevent it was to assassinate Soleimani. But if, in fact, there was no such imminent threat, then it becomes painfully obvious what this was about, and the nation simply cannot tolerate that.
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How many times are you going to repeat this same believed "gotcha".
 
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