USA! USA! Chant Deemed Racist

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http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-says-%e2%80%9cusa-usa%e2%80%9d-chant-is-racist.htm

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A Texas school district has filed a complaint alleging that students from a rival school engaged in racism by chanting “USA, USA” at a basketball game. The students involved in the incident were reprimanded and forced to apologize.

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The San Antonio Independent School District filed the complaint with the University Interscholastic League, the governing body for athletics in Texas. They allege that students at Alamo Heights High School began chanting “USA, USA” after they defeated Edison High School to win a region basketball championship.

Edison’s team is predominantly Hispanic, said Leslie Price, a spokesperson for the San Antonio ISD.

“The implication as they are not American citizens,” Price told Fox News. “We understand competiveness and rivalry, but you need to choose your words and think about the meaning behind them.”

Price said she believes the “USA, USA” chant was racially motivated.

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“It was chanted selectively at a school that is predominantly Hispanic and there was understanding of that,” she said.

Price said the school district was bombarded with a number of people who found the “USA, USA” chant to be “very disrespectful.”

“That might be chanted at international soccer games,” she said. “But this is not a chant that these students chant at all of their basketball games. It was selective.”

According to local news accounts, the chanting occurred immediately after Alamo Heights won the championship. It lasted about five seconds before the head coach ordered the students to stop.

Alamo Heights ISD Superintendent Kevin Brown told MySanAntonio.com that he had apologized to San Antonio ISD officials.

“Unfortunately, after the game, we had a handful of students who made a bad decision and we’re very sorry it happened,” Brown told the newspaper. “They made a mistake and we’re going to use this as a learning experience.”

Price said it’s not the first time their students have been victims of insensitive chants. Last year students at another school chanted “USA, USA” and “Arizona.” It happened during the national discussion on Arizona’s controversial immigration bill.

The school district’s athletic director, Gil Garza, told the newspaper that the chant cannot be ignored.

“Our community is fed up,” he told MySanAntonio.com. “It’s really frustrating that kids work so hard to get to this level and there’s another group of kids degrading them.”

Jamey Harrison, deputy director of the University Interscholastic League, told Fox News that they have an “ongoing investigation” into the incident and at this point, it is unclear if the chant was racially motivated.

“Clearly, officials from San Antonio ISD felt it was,” Harrison said. “It’s my understanding they felt like it was motivated by the fact that most of the students on their team were of Hispanic origin.”

Harrison said they do not condone in any way “any type of derogatory chant or racially motivated chant at one of our events.”

Should the investigation uncover wrongdoing, he said the school could face a whole range of sanctions — from probation to potential suspensions.

Television station KSAT said the students who chanted “USA USA” were banned from the state title games and will be forced to apologize.

“We just hope that people know that that’s not who we are and we’re not going to let it happen again,” Brown told KSAT.
 
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It was probably racist. If used selectively at one school that is mostly hispanic, than imo, there's a good chance some students were chanting it because they were white and the others were hispanic, which would be racist if both teams were from America.

That being said, I don't really care for public outcry or forced apologies.

edit: I'd prefer the USA chant be used for either international events, patriotic things, or just awesome stuff like flyovers.
 
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It was probably racist. If used selectively at one school that is mostly hispanic, than imo, there's a good chance some students were chanting it because they were white and the others were hispanic, which would be racist if both teams were from America.

That being said, I don't really care for public outcry or forced apologies.

Nationality and skin color are two different things.
 
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wonder if they will try to prevent Americans from chanting U-S-A at the Olympics?
 
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It was probably racist. If used selectively at one school that is mostly hispanic, than imo, there's a good chance some students were chanting it because they were white and the others were hispanic, which would be racist if both teams were from America.

That being said, I don't really care for public outcry or forced apologies.

edit: I'd prefer the USA chant be used for either international events, patriotic things, or just awesome stuff like flyovers.
It was nothing more than a post game taunt. I understand if it was an anti-Mexican chant, but this is ridiculous, IMO.
 
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Nationality and skin color are two different things.

Exactly, which is why it was inappropriate. The students associated their being white with being American and with their being hispanic as being non-American. When both high schools were in Texas. Why else would they chant USA! USA!? That patriotic bone got all jazzed up at a sweet jumpshot?
 
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You guys are acting like chanting USA at an international competition representing the US against Mexico is equivalent to two American high schools one being mostly hispanic the other being white is the same thing. This is inappropriate. America has a proud immigrant tradition. The public outcry is not appropriate (asking for apologies and what not). The school principal should just sit them down and tell them not to be stupid again or they will be disciplined.
 
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Exactly, which is why it was inappropriate. The students associated their being white with being American with their being hispanic as being non-American. When both high schools were in Texas. Why else would they chant USA! USA!? That patriotic bone got all jazzed up at a sweet jumpshot?

Well, nationality has nothing to do with skin color. Whether the "white" team was actually white or just made up of non-Hispanics to me is irrelevant. If the opposing team was made up of Mexican-Americans, then chanting "USA!" should have been completely meaningless. If they were illegals, then it was appropriate because it is a sporting event and the crowd is allowed to yell chants in the hopes of rattling the opposing team. Again, not racist.

I will say, this sort of thing is not uncommon in that region. However, what is uncommon is that fact that they were yelling "USA!" this time instead of "Viva Mexico!". You never hear about those chants in high schools. Again, I don't think either are racist or inappropriate towards the opposing team.
 
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It's funny to see people deem the chant racist and offensive because the students are Hispanic. It's almost as if they're saying those students aren't really American.
 
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In context, pretty obvious this is antagonizing Hispanics on opposing team.

Not sure I think it complaint worthy, but I agree they should apologize for it.

As reported, it was clearly racist.

Also, I can confirm now that this story is why Fox, and by extension GOP, is losing ground with Hispanic voters.
 
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It's funny to see people deem the chant racist and offensive because the students are Hispanic. It's almost as if they're saying those students aren't really American.

Do you not see that as most likely the reason the students were chanting USA, USA? Because they were associating Hispanic students as Non-American? And there school was mostly white, which they associated with America. There would be no other reason to chant USA, USA after a win (at least as far as the news article is presented, maybe a wounded marine hit the final shot, who knows).

Again I will say I don't agree with the public outcry because you are inferring the student's intentions, but I think the logic of calling this inappropriate because it assumes race = nationality, is sound.
 
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In context, pretty obvious this is antagonizing Hispanics on opposing team.

Not sure I think it complaint worthy, but I agree they should apologize for it.

As reported, it was clearly racist.

Also, I can confirm now that this story is why Fox, and by extension GOP, is losing ground with Hispanic voters.

Really dude?
 

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