Utah State scrimmage report

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sjt18 said:
If UF's D had been in the MWC last fall they likely would have allowed less than 10 ppg. USU played some really, REALLY bad teams last fall... and didn't even contain all of them. Utah with a 5-7 record (who was dominated by Oregon also) scored 30 on them. In fact, the only two good teams they held under 20 points were USC just before Kiffin was fired and NIU... who was overrated. The combined winning % of the teams they beat was 41%.

They beat 3 teams with a winning record with NIU being the best of those. The other two were Co St @8-6 and UNLV @7-6. To tell you how "strong" those wins were, CSU didn't beat a single team that finished with a winning record. They played several close games against some terrible teams (ie Hawaii). UNLV beat SDSU for their only win vs a team that finished with a winning record. They were manhandled by both Minnesota and Arizona. They beat a 1-11 Hawaii team by 2. A 3-9 New Mexico team scored 42 points on them (14 more than USU).

USU beat UNM by 4 and beat CSU 13-0.

This sets up like so many other games like this going back to at least Cal in 2006.... who also came in with big talk having beaten up on a weak schedule the year before.
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Thought you'd done your homework Natureboy. you're usually not wrong with this stuff: Utah State Aggies vs. New Mexico Lobos - Recap - October 19, 2013 - ESPN

Perhaps you meant UNLV?
 
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#78
This reminds me of a thread in 2012. Mike Glennon was supposed to have lit the scoreboard up and Amerson was going to pick off Bray every time he threw the ball... didn't work out anything like that....
 
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I'd like to emphasize how on the USU board they are extremely overstating TN's QB troubles, but they are using VN as source.
 
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Gilbert said:
USU fans from their message board are pretty confident they win. Some even think they win comfortably.
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I think that is understandable on their part. They have had some success the last few years and we have been having 5 win seasons. With embarrassing loses to Vandy and KY. We don't put the fear in teams that we once did. We went a few years that the only game I worried about was Florida, no one else in the SEC could compete with us. The last 10 years I have worried about every game. I do not take Utah State lightly
 
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When you consider how bad UT has been over the last 5 years, many of you are being just as irrational as the USU fans. This will not be an easy game for a bunch of first time starters. Plus, if it's close late in the game, QBs like Keeton are difficult to stop.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
2 of which are a punter and a kicker. Granted those are important, it means they bring 5 starters back on offense and defense.
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his list is wrong

QB: Keeton
RB: Hill
WR: Swindall and Natson
OL: Whimpey
TE: Houston (started after redshirt came off due to injuries, discount him if you want as a starter)

Offense: 6

Defense
DL: Larsen (have a guy who started every game in 2012 too, but I won't count him here)
LB: Fackrell, N Vigil, Z Vigil
DB: Suite

Defense: 5

kicker/punter: 2

total: 13 (12 if you don't want to count houston)
 
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I don't understand the talk about climate. It's not an advantage. It's not like all their players have been in Utah their whole life
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I don't understand the talk about climate. It's not an advantage. It's not like all their players have been in Utah their whole life
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very true. 25 players from florida/texas/tennessee/hawaii. 45 if you want to throw in california, but it's not the same as tennessee (though it is a night game). we also have had games in louisiana, alabama, oklahoma.

not to mention it is as humid in Logan, UT today as in knoxville (60% vs 62%, but 60 is fairly high for logan).
 
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Grand Vol said:
And the coach saying they open up the midfield a little more than they should. With the TE coming back as a another weapon in the offense, that should help open up everything for a strong pass game.

I have no doubts we will win. And I don't think Butch is the kind of coach that will intentionally run the score up so we should hopefully see our 2s and 3s get some game time and seasoning.
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I hope we run the score on Florida ,never apply the breaks
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ficklez said:
very true. 25 players from florida/texas/tennessee/hawaii. 45 if you want to throw in california, but it's not the same as tennessee (though it is a night game). we also have had games in louisiana, alabama, oklahoma.

not to mention it is as humid in Logan, UT today as in knoxville (60% vs 62%, but 60 is fairly high for logan).
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And that's extremely low for Knoxville. Just checked (I live in Memphis), and the average daily high humidity in Aug. and Sept. is 95%. Being a night game could certainly help. USU would not be the first team from out west to be hurt by the heat and humidity at a Neyland opener.

Where you're from doesn't really make a lot of difference. It's where you live and train. I grew up in TN and moved to CA for several years before moving back. It was like a blast furnace for a few weeks, and then I acclimated. It makes a big difference when you aren't acclimated, and it actually has an effect during cold weather too, but that isn't applicable here.

Look up the '91 game against UCLA for a reference. Temps as high as 140 on the field. I was there, and it was hot.
 
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DuckinVol said:
And that's extremely low for Knoxville. Just checked (I live in Memphis), and the average daily high humidity in Aug. and Sept. is 95%. Being a night game could certainly help. USU would not be the first team from out west to be hurt by the heat and humidity at a Neyland opener.

Where you're from doesn't really make a lot of difference. It's where you live and train. I grew up in TN and moved to CA for several years before moving back. It was like a blast furnace for a few weeks, and then I acclimated. It makes a big difference when you aren't acclimated, and it actually has an effect during cold weather too, but that isn't applicable here.
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well, they'll get an extra day to acclimate since the game is on sunday instead of saturday. the 95% you give is the high humidity in august.

"The air is driest around August 31, at which time the relative humidity drops below 58% (mildly humid) three days out of four; it is most humid around August 2, rising above 93% (very humid) three days out of four."

so according to that, on average, the highest humidity on august 31 (which just happens to be the date of our game) is 58%. more than a typical day in utah for sure, but not smothering.

Average Weather In August For Knoxville, Tennessee, USA - WeatherSpark
 
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Good luck with that, Mr. Weatherman. Could certainly happen. And, if you think one day is enough to acclimate from low to high humidity you haven't had to perform outside in that situation. The body doesn't work that way. If they're smart, the coaches already have the players forcing themselves to hyper-hydrate far beyond what they'll have to do the rest of the season.
 
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Davpmars said:
It's interesting you think the geographical location of the stadium will be an advantage for the Vols. Olympic runners train in the Rocky Mountains to train their lungs to perform even in low oxygen levels so that when they run in lower elevations they can go twice as far. Every time I visit TN it amazes me how easy it is to run 5 miles.
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Ok.....maybe you should start running now.........
 
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You have to give them an A for effort......if you are gonig to dream always dream big!
 
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DuckinVol said:
Good luck with that, Mr. Weatherman. Could certainly happen.
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call me mr. weatherman or mr. snowmeizer or whatever you want. that's statistical data from a weather center that measures humidity. I'll take that over mr. "feels purty wet ou' hur today, yawl."
 
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Also, the weather will pay an even smaller role given that this is an evening game. Not like it's starting at 2:00.

I think a much bigger concern for Aggie fans is that the crowd will be crazy loud after "medicating" themselves through the afternoon tailgate party.
I bet USU has more than 5 false starts due to the crowd but very few players cramp up.
 
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Davpmars said:
It's interesting you think the geographical location of the stadium will be an advantage for the Vols. Olympic runners train in the Rocky Mountains to train their lungs to perform even in low oxygen levels so that when they run in lower elevations they can go twice as far. Every time I visit TN it amazes me how easy it is to run 5 miles.
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Its not the altitude you moron. Its the noise.
 
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And I took the daily high average of 95% from the exact same place. You can hope all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the odds are the humidity will be high. However, our weather patterns have been very mild for most of the summer, so y'all might get lucky.

I'm in the field every August 31st, and it's ALMOST always very hot and humid. This has been a mild summer, and there's always the opportunity for a front at that time of the year, but after 40+ years of being outdoors on that date, while sweating like a Mormon writing all his wives love letters, it's probably going to be hot and humid.
 
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#97
I remember that 91 UCLA game. People were passing out right and left and they ran out of ice before half time. I can't remember a game ever being played in Neyland that was anywhere close to being that hot.

Today is an exceptionally nice August day for Knoxville, cool and low humidity. I wouldn't count on August 31st being as nice.
 
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DuckinVol said:
And I took the daily high average of 95% from the exact same place. You can hope all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the odds are the humidity will be high. However, our weather patterns have been very mild for most of the summer, so y'all might get lucky.

I'm in the field every August 31st, and it's ALMOST always very hot and humid. This has been a mild summer, and there's always the opportunity for a front at that time of the year, but after 40+ years of being outdoors on that date, while sweating like a Mormon writing all his wives love letters, it's probably going to be hot and humid.
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that's not the daily high average. Thats the HIGHest it typically gets for any day in august. if you look at the night time humidities, its very low
 
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#99
Unless Jim Cantore is doing a remote outside Neyland on 8/31, the weather will not be a deciding factor in this game. Can't we just drop that argument?
 
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ficklez said:
that's not the daily high average. Thats the HIGHest it typically gets for any day in august. if you look at the night time humidities, its very low
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"The average daily high (blue) and low (brown) relative humidity" is what the graph says. Just saying it's probably going to be a hot and humid day, far beyond what you're accustomed to out there. The night could very well cool off quickly.

Don't think it really matters a whole lot anyway. I'm not taking your team lightly, as they have proven to be a quality program the last several years. I just believe the talent disparity is too great at the skill positions for your quarterback and linebackers to overcome.

Heck, it could end up being dry and 40 degrees, and USU will issue a beatdown of epic proportions. Stranger things have happened. But I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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