Utah Utes deserve consideration for National Champs

#26
#26
Vols4life said:
Put Utah in one of the BCS conferences and tell me they go undefeated this Utah should be national champs is stupid talk....they could not probably beat USC, Texas, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma and possibly tOSU they lucked out this year playing bama without Smith who is their offense as an Olineman....playing Michigan trying to learn a new offense
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I disagree. Using hypotheticals like "they could not PROBABLY..." is erroneous. The fact is that they have a perfect record and beat a team that was ranked #1 for several weeks.

I personally like perfection and think is is ridiculous that we have crowned teams with 2 losses (yeah that is you LSwho) champs. If my opinion counted I would definately consider voting Utah the Nat'l champs, depending on the way FL/OK plays out.
 
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#27
Wether or not they are in a BCS conference or not is pointless. What if the Colts were in the NFC? They would have been to about 7 Super Bowls by now but they're not so the point is worthless to argue. Utah ran the table and when they finaly played a major school that was ranked #1 in the country for awhile they completly dominated them head to head. Now do I think Utah is better than Bama or could hang in the SEC, no way...but that's not the evidence here...lol
 
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Cartervol said:
Teams like utah will always get the shaft until there is some form of a playoff. They can argue it all they want. They're never going to get the respect of the BCS conferences.
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sad but true. a playoff needs to happen. but won't for a long time
 
#29
#29
Utah can play good teams during the regular season if they want a chance. True they didn't know Michigan would fall off, but they were far from impressive in beating them anyways. You can't beat one team in a bowl which is a letdown for them and expect much sympathy. They will get votes, but no split.
 
#30
#30
I think they will get some votes in the AP, especially from voters in their area. Remember, their biggest rival BYU, won the title in 1984 without beating a team of the quality of Alabama. The non BCS conferences are being shutout of the crystal football, and their top team have a difficult time in getting the bigger BCS schools too play them. It is becoming a why bother situation for them.
 
#31
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nickknx865 said:
1. Nobody wants to play a top mid-major like Utah or Boise State. It's a no win situation. There is a reason that San Diego State has no problem getting Notre Dame on the schedule, while Utah and BSU look for anyone that's any good to play them.

2. I really haven't heard anyone try to make a case for Virginia Tech or Ohio State. The main issues I've heard are Texas, Utah, and USC being left out of the national title picture, with a couple of AP voters proclaiming they will vote Utah as the national champions.

So, if you're not wanting a playoff, what do you want? +1? Keep it the way it is? Go back to the pre-BCS system?
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1. Utah played Michigan this season.. of course it doesn't sound very big now, but at the time it was. They also finalized a deal to play Notre Dame in 2010. It's not a problem playing these nationally acclaimed teams for Utah, nor is it for Boise. They went to Autzen this year to play a very good Oregon team.

2. You could make a case for any of the teams, I guess. I find it ridiculous that Utah is going to be voted National Champions, even if Oklahoma beats Florida by 30, or vice-versa... it's stupid. Utah does not deserve the National Championship.

I want to see a smarter computer system determining these rankings. Maybe throw in a playoff of these "Split National Champions"
 
#32
#32
Utah has as much a claim to the Natinal championship as any of the other contenders this year.

13-0 and a Sugar Bowl Title looks like a championship team to me
 
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SURFSIDEBEACHVOL said:
Utah has as much a claim to the Natinal championship as any of the other contenders this year.

13-0 and a Sugar Bowl Title looks like a championship team to me
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If Boise State did happen to go undefeated, would we be jumping the gun to proclaim this Utah team Champions just because they went undefeated, when in reality Boise State could have, too?

I know we're going into hypotheticals here, but that's something to consider if you ask me.
 
#34
#34
utah utes deserve the award for blitzing the 3rd string left tackle. that's all they had to do. the door was open for the whole crowd to run in and sack the qb all game long. i'm not impressed with utah getting pressure. congratulations, you beat alabama, who lost to florida, who hasn't even won the NC yet. i'm getting sick and tired of the utah fans acting like they beat the juggernaut of the year. they beat alabama, who had a very magical run to their BCS bowl. i'm willing to bet that the game goes differently if alabama doesn't have a moron playing tackle who gets himself suspended and ruins a season for his team.

alabama's season really means nothing in the scheme of things now that they lost the SEC championship and Sugar bowl. poor players.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
. i'm getting sick and tired of the utah fans acting like they beat the juggernaut of the year. they beat alabama, who had a very magical run to their BCS bowl..
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They hammered the 2nd best team in the SEC, They have the right to pound their chests all they want.
 
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SURFSIDEBEACHVOL said:
They hammered the 2nd best team in the SEC, They have the right to pound their chests all they want.
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alabama didn't have their starting tackle, smith, who is amazing. on top of that, they had guys playing the left side who weren't supposed to be there. as i stated, utah should be eligible for the common sense award, not the national championship. a lot of teams would have beat alabama. just overload the left side of that o line and you'll get pressure. the offensive line was out of sync all night and that's bama's bread and butter.
 
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#37
Bad things happen, it was up to Alabama to deal with them. Utah had a great game plan on how to attack Bama's defense. Their missing LG had nothing to do with how bad their defense played. I do not think Utah should or will win the title; however, I do not like that they are excluded from the conversation because their conference is not a BCS conference. Why even have them play DIV I football if they cannot play for the title, might as well make a new division and have all of the non BSC teams, like TCU, BYU, Boise, Utah, and Ball State play each other.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Utah can play good teams during the regular season if they want a chance. True they didn't know Michigan would fall off, but they were far from impressive in beating them anyways. You can't beat one team in a bowl which is a letdown for them and expect much sympathy. They will get votes, but no split.
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Utah also beat Oregon State who in turn beat then #1 USC.
 
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#40
I'm for a playoff instead of the beauty contest to VOTE for a MNC. The NY Giants last year were underdogs in every playoff game including the Superbowl. Point being that in a pole (vote) before the playoffs started they were listed as the least capable of winning the Superbowl. Voting a champion in any kind of sport is stupid. Win on the field period. Could Utah be the champion this year, I don't know. I would sure like to see it unfold on the field though. The last point I'd like to make is that ND, Michigan, OSU, Bama, OU, and a couple of other perceived better teams will always get an unfair advantage in VOTING for championship match ups. Make it fair to all (Even non BCS conferences) and let's see it play out.
 
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alaVOL said:
I'm for a playoff instead of the beauty contest to VOTE for a MNC. The NY Giants last year were underdogs in every playoff game including the Superbowl. Point being that in a pole (vote) before the playoffs started they were listed as the least capable of winning the Superbowl. Voting a champion in any kind of sport is stupid. Win on the field period. Could Utah be the champion this year, I don't know. I would sure like to see it unfold on the field though. The last point I'd like to make is that ND, Michigan, OSU, Bama, OU, and a couple of other perceived better teams will always get an unfair advantage in VOTING for championship match ups. Make it fair to all (Even non BCS conferences) and let's see it play out.
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I agree, and I've been making the argument for a long time for a playoff. However, there is no playoff and we still have to vote. And all things considered, Utah should not have an argument in the NC. The two best teams in the nation are squabbing it out for the NC this year. Utah is good, and they did impress. One of my favorite players of all time, Steve Smith, is from Utah. I'm just not sold on the hype that they've been trying to generate all year. Congratulations, you beat Michigan on a down year, slaughtered inferior opponents week after week, and beat a Bama team that might as well not have had an O line. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon.

I enjoy the parody of college football voting though, and hopefully USC and Utah fans ring enough bells and shatter enough windows to turn the flame up on the playoff callings. All we need now is for Texas to win and Oklahoma to win their games (go Florida for the SEC, for the record).

If Obama wants to increase his celebrity status and presidential approval rating, he'll sit all the CFB people down and demand "change".
 
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A lot of people argue about schedules etc. Schedules are set up years in advance and can't be changed easily nor quickly. A far as conferences go, it shouldn't matter where your team is geographically upon whether they can play for the title. Come on people, step back and take a unbiased look at the current way a MNC is crowned and seriously tell me it's the best way and a fair way. Either do away with a MNC or make it REAL.
 
#43
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alaVOL said:
A lot of people argue about schedules etc. Schedules are set up years in advance and can't be changed easily nor quickly. A far as conferences go, it shouldn't matter where your team is geographically upon whether they can play for the title. Come on people, step back and take a unbiased look at the current way a MNC is crowned and seriously tell me it's the best way and a fair way. Either do away with a MNC or make it REAL.
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I will say that the schedule argument should not be the ONLY argument when considering a NC or contender, but seriously. Utah's opponents this year were no challenging acts.
 
#44
#44
Utah definitely deserves consideration . . . for about 3 seconds.
 
#45
#45
The utes do not deserve a 1st place vote but their upset of alabama screams for a playoff. Also, if alabama is unable get up for the suger bowl then they have problems. Which is ok with me.
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BigSteve09 said:
alabama didn't have their starting tackle, smith, who is amazing. on top of that, they had guys playing the left side who weren't supposed to be there. as i stated, utah should be eligible for the common sense award, not the national championship. a lot of teams would have beat alabama. just overload the left side of that o line and you'll get pressure. the offensive line was out of sync all night and that's bama's bread and butter.
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Hoss, I don't think Andre Smith plays defense and Utah did rip off 21 straight points on Bama.
 
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Even if they go to a "Plus 1" format or an 8 team playoff, there still is the issue of nobody really knowing where the heck to rank Mountain West and MAC type teams that don's play the same type schedule that the BCS schools do.
 
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rockydoc said:
Hoss, I don't think Andre Smith plays defense and Utah did rip off 21 straight points on Bama.
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right, but that also took away the ability for bama to get on the board because they could not put together any sort of drive with no o line. no running + no time to throw = no points for bama. if they have their regular o line that they've had all year, the game goes a different way. maybe utah still wins the game, but it's not the same game for sure. a long run or pass play hypes the team up and the d comes out and shuts them down and the o gets on the board again.
 
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