Utah Utes deserve consideration for National Champs

#51
#51
Showtime said:
1. Utah played Michigan this season.. of course it doesn't sound very big now, but at the time it was. They also finalized a deal to play Notre Dame in 2010. It's not a problem playing these nationally acclaimed teams for Utah, nor is it for Boise. They went to Autzen this year to play a very good Oregon team.

1. It really doesn't matter who the bigger mid-majors put on the schedule, the BCS elites are going to complain about schedule strength.

2. You could make a case for any of the teams, I guess. I find it ridiculous that Utah is going to be voted National Champions, even if Oklahoma beats Florida by 30, or vice-versa... it's stupid. Utah does not deserve the National Championship.

No, no you couldn't.

I want to see a smarter computer system determining these rankings. Maybe throw in a playoff of these "Split National Champions"
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#52
#52
Second thought.................UTAH should be the MNC. Anything that will hasten a playoff I'm for it; hell, I'd vote for Ball State if it would make people mad enough to do the right thing instead of the money thing.
 
#56
#56
Utah played a fantastic game and, although there may be a little something to Alabama being unmotivated, that doesn't take away at all from the Utes and how they completely dominated the Tide. I am sure they will get some votes and deservedly so. I'm also sure it doesn't matter because the BCS is the system we all currently adhere to. Hate it, but it is.
 
#57
#57
Overall Conference
Date Opponent Score Record Record Time Attend
---- -------- ----- -------- -------- ---- ------
Aug 30, 2008 at Michigan W 25-23 1- 0- 0 0- 0- 0 3:33 108421
* Sep 06, 2008 UNLV W 42-21 2- 0- 0 1- 0- 0 3:10 45587
Sep 13, 2008 at Utah State W 58-10 3- 0- 0 1- 0- 0 3:09 19061
* Sep 20, 2008 at Air Force W 30-23 4- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 2:50 36952
Sep 27, 2008 WEBER STATE W 37-21 5- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 2:55 45117
Oct 02, 2008 OREGON STATE W 31-28 6- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 3:10 45599
* Oct 11, 2008 at Wyoming W 40-7 7- 0- 0 3- 0- 0 3:00 17123
* Oct 18, 2008 COLORADO STATE W 49-16 8- 0- 0 4- 0- 0 3:05 44793
* Nov 01, 2008 at New Mexico W 13-10 9- 0- 0 5- 0- 0 2:59 30901
* Nov 06, 2008 #11 TCU W 13-10 10- 0- 0 6- 0- 0 3:13 45666
* Nov 15, 2008 at San Diego State W 63-14 11- 0- 0 7- 0- 0 3:14 19342
* Nov 22, 2008 #14 BRIGHAM YOUNG W 48-24 12- 0- 0 8- 0- 0 3:18 46488
Jan 02, 2009 vs #4 Alabama W 31-17 13- 0- 0 8- 0- 0 326 71872

* indicates conference game

Real impressive.:no:
 
#59
#59
utfantilidie said:
Overall Conference
Date Opponent Score Record Record Time Attend
---- -------- ----- -------- -------- ---- ------
Aug 30, 2008 at Michigan W 25-23 1- 0- 0 0- 0- 0 3:33 108421
* Sep 06, 2008 UNLV W 42-21 2- 0- 0 1- 0- 0 3:10 45587
Sep 13, 2008 at Utah State W 58-10 3- 0- 0 1- 0- 0 3:09 19061
* Sep 20, 2008 at Air Force W 30-23 4- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 2:50 36952
Sep 27, 2008 WEBER STATE W 37-21 5- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 2:55 45117
Oct 02, 2008 OREGON STATE W 31-28 6- 0- 0 2- 0- 0 3:10 45599
* Oct 11, 2008 at Wyoming W 40-7 7- 0- 0 3- 0- 0 3:00 17123
* Oct 18, 2008 COLORADO STATE W 49-16 8- 0- 0 4- 0- 0 3:05 44793
* Nov 01, 2008 at New Mexico W 13-10 9- 0- 0 5- 0- 0 2:59 30901
* Nov 06, 2008 #11 TCU W 13-10 10- 0- 0 6- 0- 0 3:13 45666
* Nov 15, 2008 at San Diego State W 63-14 11- 0- 0 7- 0- 0 3:14 19342
* Nov 22, 2008 #14 BRIGHAM YOUNG W 48-24 12- 0- 0 8- 0- 0 3:18 46488
Jan 02, 2009 vs #4 Alabama W 31-17 13- 0- 0 8- 0- 0 326 71872

* indicates conference game

Real impressive.:no:
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Are you serious?
Michigan
Air Force
Oregon St.
TCU
BYU
Bama

All very quality wins.

The other teams they beat, they did so in an appropriate manner: CSU- 25 points, UNLV- 21 points, and one that needs no explanation for vols fand Wyoming- 33 points.

I am no UTES fan, but they at least deserve a chance at a N.C.
There are plenty of BCS teams who would have gotten a shot if they had gone undefeated, that play much worse schedules than that.
 
#60
#60
if texas and oklahoma win, it'll bring things closer to a playoff system as well. if OSU wins, god knows whats gonna happen. this year might bring out the wild ass in all the teams and get the ball moving.

but imagine if there was a playoff system. bama losing to utah in the first round would be HUGE.

is this where we, as college fans, don't support college football again until there is a playoff system? i really don't want to do that lol, but that's what it might take, for the better of the game.

and the schedule argument for utah should be over by now. the only time that the sched argument should be used against utah was before they got the invite to the sugar. they deserved to go to the game, i just don't think that they beat a quality alabama team. florida beat a quality alabama team, but not utah.
 
#61
#61
BigSteve09 said:
right, but that also took away the ability for bama to get on the board because they could not put together any sort of drive with no o line. no running + no time to throw = no points for bama. if they have their regular o line that they've had all year, the game goes a different way. maybe utah still wins the game, but it's not the same game for sure. a long run or pass play hypes the team up and the d comes out and shuts them down and the o gets on the board again.
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then again, maybe not. apparently this one olineman is the only reason alabama was good this year? The defense knew during the year that they could fall behind by 21 in any game, but would be okay because their stud olineman would prove too much for the opposing teams and save them? face it, their defense didn't help them out at all.
 
#62
#62
kev20 said:
then again, maybe not. apparently this one olineman is the only reason alabama was good this year? The defense knew during the year that they could fall behind by 21 in any game, but would be okay because their stud olineman would prove too much for the opposing teams and save them? face it, their defense didn't help them out at all.
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right, the team obviously looked under prepared, but their o line were all playing out of position. it didnt take a genius to figure out that stacking the left side and letting that RE they had get loose was the easiest way to apply pressure and ruin the bama offense. their d was letting utah on the board, but bama did not have the ability to answer on offense without a legitimate offensive line. and yes, their o line is the reason that they were so good this year.
 
#63
#63
tvolsfan said:
Which means they caught Bama half asleep to begin the game.
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That's just dumb. Utah won the game, straight up. There is no Well, they didn't have their O-line, blah blah blah. Utah won, Bama lost. Get over it. Utah played TCU, Oregon St., BYU.....three teams that would have taken us to the woodshed this year. They went undefeated, they deserve consideration. It's as simple as that. I love UT and the SEC....but it's not like the SEC is recruiting superhuman athletes and everyone else has all walk-ons.
 
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#64
#64
They don't deserve consideration before Florida, OU, Texas, and USC. After those teams though, I'll put there name in that mix. Why not? If it will make them happy I will definitely put their name in that mix. But do you really think that Utah would beat USC? Florida? OU? Texas? A healthy Alabama team?
 
#65
#65
BigSteve09 said:
They don't deserve consideration before Florida, OU, Texas, and USC. After those teams though, I'll put there name in that mix. Why not? If it will make them happy I will definitely put their name in that mix. But do you really think that Utah would beat USC? Florida? OU? Texas? A healthy Alabama team?
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Curious as to why you think Bama was so unhealthy? Bama was very fortunate all year about injuries, just because the one lineman couldn't play had nothing to do with fact Bama's offense only scored 10 points. Bama's defense couldn't stop Utah, how does the missing O lineman have anything to do with that.
 
#66
#66
BigSteve09 said:
right, the team obviously looked under prepared, but their o line were all playing out of position. it didnt take a genius to figure out that stacking the left side and letting that RE they had get loose was the easiest way to apply pressure and ruin the bama offense. their d was letting utah on the board, but bama did not have the ability to answer on offense without a legitimate offensive line. and yes, their o line is the reason that they were so good this year.
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Linemen being suspended didn't really hurt Alabama against Tennessee in 2007.
 
#67
#67
alaVOL said:
Curious as to why you think Bama was so unhealthy? Bama was very fortunate all year about injuries, just because the one lineman couldn't play had nothing to do with fact Bama's offense only scored 10 points. Bama's defense couldn't stop Utah, how does the missing O lineman have anything to do with that.
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to be honest i was using the bama game as an example of utah beating a watered down team. true, smith was not the tebow of alabama or anything, but him and that guard they had (i don't have time to look up dude's name) were both gone and their whole line was playing out of position. everyone that watched alabama all year knew that they relied on their o-line to control the clock. not having their starting line and playing guys out of position did harm them.

now putting the bama game aside, i did say that i would consider Utah for the (M)NC AFTER UF, OU, UTX, and USC.
 
#68
#68
and i'm not trying to be an SEC die-hard or anything here, i just can not buy this hype for utah. i wish that there was a playoff system so the next team in line could put them down.
 
#70
#70
kev20 said:
then what would the excuse be if they beat the next team in line?
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when that happened i would shut my mouth after admitting that i was wrong and likely not post for another year. unfortunately, we will never know because of our beloved bcs.
 
#71
#71
Because it's not like Utah could beat anyone that's in the BCS. Oh wait, they just did.

And it's not like an all black starting 5 could beat the juggernaut that is Kentucky and Adolph Rupp, while Texas Western's coach was coaching high school girls basketball a few years beforehand. Oh wait, Texas Western - 72, Kentucky 65.

Oh, and let's not forget about 2004. Mariano Rivera, the best closer in the history of the game of baseball, is going to shut down the Sox. Down 3-0, we might as well call the series over now. Oh wait, Boston won that game, and proceeded to win the ALCS, 4-3. Then, they beat the Cardinals for the first World Series title since 1918.

Shall I go on any further, or do you catch my drift. Give Utah a chance.
 
#72
#72
alaVOL said:
A lot of people argue about schedules etc. Schedules are set up years in advance and can't be changed easily nor quickly. A far as conferences go, it shouldn't matter where your team is geographically upon whether they can play for the title. Come on people, step back and take a unbiased look at the current way a MNC is crowned and seriously tell me it's the best way and a fair way. Either do away with a MNC or make it REAL.
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The way it is done now is the best way that is possible now or anytime in the near future.
 
#75
#75
cibai said:
Then you didn't watch many air force games this year. They were every bit as good as half the SEC.
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They needed a list minute field goal to avoid losing to UNLV and had a pretty tough time putting Army away. Air Force wouldn't be bowling in the SEC. They aren't horrible, but if Florida had played them, USC fans would be using that as a reason the Gators shouldn't be in the NC.
 
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