‘23 VA ATH Cameron Seldon (Tennessee Commit)

[Dadof2Vols]

Anybody know what they base their predictions on?

Some guy named PLove23 who is in the know!

 

[Jackcrevol]

If we get Cam & PLove things will be looking up, looking up field and looking up at the extra point going through the uprights!

 

[TrippieRedd]

Can we take some of Mauigoa's NIL and give some to Mizell?

I'd love to pair him and Seldon together with Ethan Davis. That would be exciting.

Seldon/Mizell/Davis, TD's for days

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Can we take some of Mauigoa's NIL and give some to Mizell?

I'd love to pair him and Sedon together with Ethan Davis. That would be exciting.

Seldon/Mizell/Davis, TD's for days

I wanted Mizell over Kasper, Tate or Benson.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Can we take some of Mauigoa's NIL and give some to Mizell?

I'd love to pair him and Seldon together with Ethan Davis. That would be exciting.

Seldon/Mizell/Davis, TD's for days

DL.

 

[TrippieRedd]

DL.

only DL I really really want is that Davis kid. I think he is JUCO?

 

[Jackcrevol]

only DL I really really want is that Davis kid. I think he is JUCO?

not sure.

 

[TrippieRedd]

not sure.

 

[NighthawkVol]

So he thinks he’ll commit here, but they’ll flip him before signing day? That seems like wishful thinking.

With the NIL stuff, I think the days of flipping commits are going to fade. With the commitment probably comes some contractual agreement with a collective.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

With the NIL stuff, I think the days of flipping commits are going to fade. With the commitment probably comes some contractual agreement with a collective.

I have wondered about this. So if a kid wants to flip, how does that affect the NIl deal? If that’s the case and flips will be less of a thing, then the whole well it’s only March or only August thing is out the window. That makes recruiting more difficult imo.

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

With the NIL stuff, I think the days of flipping commits are going to fade. With the commitment probably comes some contractual agreement with a collective.

Yeah, I'd be interested in how the contracts are structured. If a player does sign and then flips, is it a breach where they can be sued? Or does it simply just break the contract and make it void? Very interesting times. Next couple of years are going to be neat.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Yeah, I'd be interested in how the contracts are structured. If a player does sign and then flips, is it a breach where they can be sued? Or does it simply just break the contract and make it void? Very interesting times. Next couple of years are going to be neat.

Guessing each one is different. But yes, a breach is a breach, although most contracts include provisions for justifiable breaches.

 

[Plove23]

If we get Cam & PLove things will be looking up, looking up field and looking up at the extra point going through the uprights!

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Guessing each one is different. But yes, a breach is a breach, although most contracts include provisions for justifiable breaches.

Yeah, I'd imagine there is SOME built in accountability, but probably not much. I don't see any collective actually suing a kid for a breach. That would be a very bad look and would probably hurt future deals. I'm no lawyer though, so no idea how that works. I suspect Spyre is just making the best deal they can offer and assuming/hoping the kid sticks and doesn't get a better offer. I would imagine the contracts are very one sided though, favoring the player.

 

[miket4god]

Things I’ll do this time:

1. Not live in this thread the next two days deciphering every post/tweet/IG story
2. Relax until he announces

Riggghhhhhhhtttttt.

 

[Plove23]

Seldon been hurt like that?

No, I don't think so

 

[bigl3327]

I have wondered about this. So if a kid wants to flip, how does that affect the NIl deal? If that’s the case and flips will be less of a thing, then the whole well it’s only March or only August thing is out the window. That makes recruiting more difficult imo.

Every high school recruit isn't getting some guaranteed NIL deal. There will still be flips. Plus, unless you reside in certain states, a contractual deal on paper is illegal right now (for high school recruits) if it's tied to a particular school. Unless a program is trying to get messed up with an obvious paper trail, these are mostly verbal agreements right now.

 

[Plove23]

Plove23 the real mvp

Preciate it....very humbled

 

[Geaux_Vols]

Every high school recruit isn't getting some guaranteed NIL deal. There will still be flips. Plus, unless you reside in certain states, a contractual deal on paper is illegal right now (for high school recruits) if it's tied to a particular school. Unless a program is trying to get messed up with an obvious paper trail, these are mostly verbal agreements right now.

NIL contracts can’t contain language specific to a school. That counts as pay-to-play, which is still illegal.

 

[bigl3327]

NIL contracts can’t contain language specific to a school. That counts as pay-to-play, which is still illegal.

This is why there will still be flips and the portal will stay popping.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Every high school recruit isn't getting some guaranteed NIL deal. There will still be flips. Plus, unless you reside in certain states, a contractual deal on paper is illegal right now (for high school recruits) if it's tied to a particular school. Unless a program is trying to get messed up with an obvious paper trail, these are mostly verbal agreements right now.

Very few states actually.

High School NIL: State-by-state regulations for name, image and likeness rights - Opendorse

 

[Jackcrevol]

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If he wants to unofficial, then earn an offer. Cool.

Else, perhaps theres a transfer.

 

[SJAVol32]

If he wants to unofficial, then earn an offer. Cool.

Else, perhaps theres a transfer.

why would he need to do that when he has an offer?

 

[Jackcrevol]

why would he need to do that when he has an offer?

just for ***** and giggles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[SweetasSoda]

What are you talking about? I'm a vol fan. I've been hurt repeatedly since 2005.

I think I have finally figured out what is different with me. I don’t get hurt because I don’t look at it the same as some. Someone said yesterday they couldn’t have confidence any more. I never have confidence just varying degrees of hope. So if they pick someone else I just move on to the next one although I am disappointed. But some get “hurt” when someone with info leads them to believe that TN will get the commitment. And the bigger the commitment, the bigger the hurt. So that’s why they jump on AV, AP, anyone that tells what they have been told. It’s because they made them feel confident, and they get hurt because of it.