Va Tech Inducts Michael Vick Into Hokies Hall Of Fame

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zjcvols said:
This might be naive but I think Vick's transgressions were for more out of ignorance than evil. He was still in the wrong but didn't realize how bad torturing animals can be. I think it was more of "I'm a human and it's dog who cares what happens to them" instead of evil intentions of getting pleasure from torturing dogs. What he did was bad, and he lost millions/served his time...he's also really done a lot of awareness about animal treatment and done a lot of service to that cause.
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How can he possibly not realize how bad it was? Unless he never actually saw a fight or what happened to the losers after the fight he had to know
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
How can he possibly not realize how bad it was? Unless he never actually saw a fight or what happened to the losers after the fight he had to know
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Because not everybody is taught to see the world in the same light. Chances are women and children weren't treated well in his community, forget about dogs. Vick's Dad just got busted big time for trafficking heroin.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I am not a parent and don't understand parental love, but I imagine nothing else can touch it.

But what about your dog vs a stranger? One has to die, you pick...the person or the dog?
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All depends on the circumstances of the situation for me.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Because not everybody is taught to see the world in the same light. Chances are women and children weren't treated well in his community, forget about dogs. Vick's Dad just got busted big time for trafficking heroin.
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So is it ok to slaughter people just because the person didn't know any better?
 
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Behr said:
Been a while since you had me confused, but Im lost here.
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Human life is more important. No comparison with my loyal dogs and my barely present daughter. Water tastes good.
 
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butchna said:
Human life is more important. No comparison with my loyal dogs and my barely present daughter. Water tastes good.
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Im talking about the "praying to God that you outlive your daughter part".

I'm not following that.
 
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Behr said:
Im talking about the "praying to God that you outlive your daughter part".

I'm not following that.
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Missed the "don't" part I did. I apologize profusely.
 
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butchna said:
Missed the "don't" part I did. I apologize profusely.
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Like TGO I assumed it was a mistake too, but in my defense, it's not like you to make that type of mistake. And, you can be pretty clever sometimes and I wasn't sure if this was one of those times and I was missing it.

I do not feel dumb for asking you to clarify. :)
 
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Behr said:
Like TGO I assumed it was a mistake too, but in my defense, it's not like you to make that type of mistake. And, you can be pretty clever sometimes and I wasn't sure if this was one of those times and I was missing it.

I do not feel dumb for asking you to clarify. :)
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Forgive yourself...I'm not. :) Seriously, I do make those but I usually catch them and edit before someone else points them out. :lol: Would have been clever (and disturbing) if intentional. :pinch:
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I get where you are coming from but disagree completely. Vick passed high school, the ACT/SAT and got into VT. That at least takes a small amount of common sense and intelligence. It doesnt take a genius to know that fighting dogs is tortuous and wrong on all levels. If Vick was a severely mentally hadicapped individual that honestly didnt realize what he was doing, then I would completely agree with you. Thats just not the case. Vick knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted to make extra money by fighting dogs.

Vick has served his time. But he does not deserve anything that resembles sympathy or a pass.
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Actually, none of DESERVE anything resembling sympathy or a pass. Regardless of anything we have done. Alas, we are all sinners. Grace is as grace does. Go and sin no more.
 
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butchna said:
Didn't require much. Human life is more valued than animals.
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Well said. God did give us dominion over all the earth and all living things on the earth. Abuse of animals for abuse sake, I don't agree with. But, they were given to us to take the life of animals to provide our own sustinance.

Being convicted of a crime and serving the sentence, and changing your life bears merit. Maybe the habitul offender list is full of people that go right back to hte same ole same ole. But, one that can use their shortcomings to actually change is a different matter.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
How can he possibly not realize how bad it was? Unless he never actually saw a fight or what happened to the losers after the fight he had to know
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How can an armed robber, or serial killer, or rapist, or bookie, or dealer, or player.....not realize how bad their actions are. Sometimes we don't see the error of our ways until we are called out on it. For many bad behaviors, that means getting busted. There are some who legitimately change after the fact. No one sin is greater than the other. How many spouses would have kept cheating had they not been caught, and then had to give their sob story. Not a criminal offense, but no less sinful.
 
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Burger said:
So is it ok to slaughter people just because the person didn't know any better?
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He didn't say it was OK. He said it was a learned behavioral pattern of judging right and wrong. He ultimatly knew it was against hte law or he wouldn't have hidden his business from public view. But, on a personal level he probably didn't see it as "bad" in his life training. Doesn't make that or any other crime OK. If you do you're time and straighten up, then I can only take that as it is, unless you fall back into it.
 
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