Vaccine or not?

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BigOrangeMojo said:
So, it's OK to portray suicides, drug deaths in a crack house, and 450 lb morbidly obese people as "vax" deaths. Is it OK to claim 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s bowel cancer deaths as vax deaths as well?

Just wondering when it's OK to fib and when it's not....
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This is such an easy setup it has to be on camera somewhere.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It's legit. Turbo and their drivel gets the appropriate response but nearly 30 year old bowel cancer deaths being tied to the vax gets crickets from the other side....
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For two years everything for actual FauciFlu to motorcycle wreck deaths were attributed to FauciFlu and not being vaxxed. I don't GAS one way or the other really, but I didn't get the shots and I never will. Nor will I forgive those that treated us the way they did. You want amnesty? Go **** yourself.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
For two years everything for actual FauciFlu to motorcycle wreck deaths were attributed to FauciFlu and not being vaxxed. I don't GAS one way or the other really, but I didn't get the shots and I never will. Nor will I forgive those that treated us the way they did. You want amnesty? Go **** yourself.
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It was wrong when the hospitals here in Memphis COVID tested dead gunshot victims to call then COVID deaths. It is wrong to link bowel cancer deaths from the 1990s to the vax....

Both can be true
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
So, it's OK to portray suicides, drug deaths in a crack house, and 450 lb morbidly obese people as "vax" deaths. Is it OK to claim 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s bowel cancer deaths as vax deaths as well?

Just wondering when it's OK to fib and when it's not....
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For you BOM I’ll qualify that statement.
The vax have proven safe. That’s a fib.
I don’t support lying so no it’s not ok to use deaths that are not caused by the shot and proven to be absurd on their face. Unfortunately there are plenty of deaths to attribute directly to the shots. Causation can be proven.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It was wrong when the hospitals here in Memphis COVID tested dead gunshot victims to call then COVID deaths. It is wrong to link bowel cancer deaths from the 1990s to the vax....

Both can be true
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No crickets here, both are morally reprehensible. Saw the covid testing used inappropriately. Didn’t agree with it then, don’t agree with it now.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Dems are too stupid to realize they were fooled again. Others made millions on it.
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I get at least 3 phone calls per week from banks trying to give our business free loans for retaining all of our employees through the past 3 years. I tell them I don't want their dirty stinking covid cash and they should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I get at least 3 phone calls per week from banks trying to give our business free loans for retaining all of our employees through the past 3 years. I tell them I don't want their dirty stinking covid cash and they should be ashamed of themselves.
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What kind of business might I ask?
Did you claim employee retention credit?
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
What kind of business might I ask?
Did you claim employee retention credit?
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I own a construction company. We did claim employee retention credit when they first offered it. My banker basically just called me and said I needed to come sign some papers for a free loan he had for us. At the time It appeared we might actually need it as a couple of large projects we had on our schedule had been put on hold. Things picked back up pretty quickly after that. Had I known then what I now know I never would have claimed the employee retention credit.... I have felt guilty ever since for taking that money. I do understand many business actually did need this to survive. We did not.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I own a construction company. We did claim employee retention credit when they first offered it. My banker basically just called me and said I needed to come sign some papers for a free loan he had for us. At the time It appeared we might actually need it as a couple of large projects we had on our schedule had been put on hold. Things picked back up pretty quickly after that. Had I known then what I now know I never would have claimed the employee retention credit.... I have felt guilty ever since for taking that money.
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Full disclosure - My far better half worked for a company that did ERC for lots of large companies. The 11th hour discussions that snuck ERC into the CARES Act is a whole other topic for political forum altogether.

I wouldn't feel bad about taking Employee Retention Credit. You kept people on the payroll while gov't orders/lockdowns limited a part of your business for a period of time. Either you pay those people or they would have got unemployment. You did what the program intended.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I own a construction company. We did claim employee retention credit when they first offered it. My banker basically just called me and said I needed to come sign some papers for a free loan he had for us. At the time It appeared we might actually need it as a couple of large projects we had on our schedule had been put on hold. Things picked back up pretty quickly after that. Had I known then what I now know I never would have claimed the employee retention credit.... I have felt guilty ever since for taking that money. I do understand many business actually did need this to survive. We did not.
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Maybe you should donate the money to a worty cause if you feel guilty about it.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Full disclosure - My far better half worked for a company that did ERC for lots of large companies. The 11th hour discussions that snuck ERC into the CARES Act is a whole other topic for political forum altogether.

I wouldn't feel bad about taking Employee Retention Credit. You kept people on the payroll while gov't orders/lockdowns limited a part of your business for a period of time. Either you pay those people or they would have got unemployment. You did what the program intended.
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And that's why I didn't really feel bad at the time that we took it as it appeared then that we may need it. Looking back now we really did not need it. I've always been the type that likes to earn things honestly and I don't want any handouts. Maybe its a pride thing. Then again, maybe that's just the way I was raised.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I own a construction company. We did claim employee retention credit when they first offered it. My banker basically just called me and said I needed to come sign some papers for a free loan he had for us. At the time It appeared we might actually need it as a couple of large projects we had on our schedule had been put on hold. Things picked back up pretty quickly after that. Had I known then what I now know I never would have claimed the employee retention credit.... I have felt guilty ever since for taking that money. I do understand many business actually did need this to survive. We did not.
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Thanks for helping drive up inflation, pal.






















That was just a joke by the way.
 
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VolinWayne said:
And that's why I didn't really feel bad at the time that we took it as it appeared then that we may need it. Looking back now we really did not need it. I've always been the type that likes to earn things honestly and I don't want any handouts. Maybe its a pride thing. Then again, maybe that's just the way I was raised.
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I wouldn't even call it a handout. The govt interrupted a portion of your business for some period of time with shutdowns and other orders. It was cheaper for the govt to give you the credit than you let everyone go and put them on unemployment at $700/week....

It's no different than the govt providing incentives for people who invest in 401ks, IRAs, or hiring disadvantaged employees...
 
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