Vaccine or not?

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clarksvol00 said:
It doesn't surprise me in the least thay I'd randomly drop in on this thread and somebody would be alleging a generations-deep nazi conspiracy to poison the world while the other regulars like and/or don't question it at all.
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You think the Nazi scientists we brought over and protected just decided to be good citizens once employed here?
 
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Any of the other regulars want to comment on the theory that German rocket scientists have spent the last 75+ years imbedding nazis into the federal government?

Edit: with an end goal to poison the world with the covid vaccine?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Yep. And I also know that NONE of that 'sCieNce' ever successfully made it out of animal trials in ANY significance prior to being foisted on humanity. What happened was criminal and not all too much different than what the Nazis did.
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I remember when the term, "godwin's law," used to get thrown around on a regular basis. Haven't seen it much since the righties started accusing the lefties of being nazis.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I remember when the term, "godwin's law," used to get thrown around on a regular basis. Haven't seen it much since the righties started accusing the lefties of being nazis.
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Jokes aside.
Godwin's law, is/was very convenient to people who do in fact plan to adopt the same bad ideas and policies as National Socialists did in Germany.

Socialists love the idea of NOT being able to look through history to see what effect their ideas have had in the past, or try to redefine one of the most famous socialist tyrants as something other then a socialist tyrant.

It stupid to play that game. if you want to NOT be compared to the nazi's maybe do not adopt their tactics and ideas?

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And at this point the similarities are meme worthy Antifa=Brown shirts in practice (the no so subtle irony of an anti fascist group, adopting the favored fascist tactics, Democrats have literally now gone all in for supporting the Azov Nazis in Ukraine, and using the Reichstag Fire blueprint in false flag attacks from everything from gun laws, to racism etc has become the Democrat political action groups model method. Create a false story, get the media to all exploit it, when the false flag gets shown to be a false setup, deny and repeat. Geeze the Jan 6 nonsense is like a poor carbon copy of the same event.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Jokes aside.
Godwin's law, is/was very convenient to people who do in fact plan to adopt the same bad ideas and policies as National Socialists did in Germany.

Socialists love the idea of NOT being able to look through history to see what effect their ideas have had in the past, or try to redefine one of the most famous socialist tyrants as something other then a socialist tyrant.

It stupid to play that game. if you want to NOT be compared to the nazi's maybe do not adopt their tactics and ideas?

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I'm glad you were able to find a graphic that you like. Do you believe that nazi rocket scientists have managed to spend the last three or four generations embedding themselves in the U.S. government with an end goal of foisting a fake and lethal vaccine on the people of the world?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm glad you were able to find a graphic that you like. Do you believe that nazi rocket scientists have managed to spend the last three generations embedding themselves in the U.S. government with an end goal of foisting a fake and lethal vaccine on the people of the world?
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I beleive socialists of all kinds have absolutely infiltrated our government. It's fairly obvious and the various socialist groups like the Democratic Socialists take credit all the time. Whether they are socialist from paperclip actual Nazis, Columbia University in New York radicals in love with Cloward-Piven,, the São Paulo Forum Latin-X communists, etc etc makes little difference. Collectvism and tyranny is as it does and the policy it promotes.

Literal connection? Doubtful...Spiritual connection? absolutely. And if it did turn out to be a literal paperclip-deepstate thing? (shrug) what difference does it make? In the end collectivist hell run by a tyrannical state is all the same. Don't want the comparison? Maybe stop trying to politicize everything from healthcare, and psychiatry, taking over the corporations for political-facsim, and canceling all free speech, using race theory to divid the populace, and disarming citizens to make them easy to subjugate? But doing all these things, and supporting all these things and then crying about the anology.....is pathetic.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I invite you to search the VN archives for references to Godwins law when Trump and his supporters were compared to nazis.

That was kind of my point.
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I do not care if someone wants to compare Trump to a Nazi..... lets make a check list? By all means lets see how he compares. He wants people to be treated equally based on merit and not by race....yeah not a nazi. He wants americans to stay armed. yeah not a nazi. He wanted a free economy with little manipulation from government and the state SOOOO not a nazi. By all means lets compare and see, and then see which party truly is like those collectivist goose steppers. this is the game the left plays, always to project on others the crimes and evil they are in fact doing. Given the horrible results of both the Nazi's and the Stalinist Communist in the 20th century, let's by all means look at what they did, and make sure we don't make those mistakes again, and follow collectivism into tyrannical hell. I welcome comparisons.......But NOT false accusations. back it up. Its easy to call someone a name, but when you compare policy there is ONE party supporting the collectivist terror that both the Nazis and Stalinists supported ..and it aint the GOP
 
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Projection equals deflection....conservatives did NOT support the Nazis or Communists in the 30s and they still dont today...but Socialists can not HELP themselves from acting like authoritarian asshats the moment they get a little bit of power. I am sure every pedocrat would love for us to forget about the nazis, eugenics, the kkk, Woodrow Wilson, segregation etc etc etc.....but that's your pedegree, that's your history its the bed Democrats made...stop blaming everyone else for the history collectivist socialist brought into this world. THAT is what collectivism creates.
 
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The irony of this entire discussion in vaccines. "Dont call us Nazi's" Oh and BTW you WILL take forced medical experimental medicine from Phizer (America's very own IG Farben ), and before you can travel, or work show me your papers PLEASE!!!!

Oh yeah but don't dare call them Nazis....

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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Jokes aside.
Godwin's law, is/was very convenient to people who do in fact plan to adopt the same bad ideas and policies as National Socialists did in Germany.

Socialists love the idea of NOT being able to look through history to see what effect their ideas have had in the past, or try to redefine one of the most famous socialist tyrants as something other then a socialist tyrant.

It stupid to play that game. if you want to NOT be compared to the nazi's maybe do not adopt their tactics and ideas?

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And at this point the similarities are meme worthy Antifa=Brown shirts in practice (the no so subtle irony of an anti fascist group, adopting the favored fascist tactics, Democrats have literally now gone all in for supporting the Azov Nazis in Ukraine, and using the Reichstag Fire blueprint in false flag attacks from everything from gun laws, to racism etc has become the Democrat political action groups model method. Create a false story, get the media to all exploit it, when the false flag gets shown to be a false setup, deny and repeat. Geeze the Jan 6 nonsense is like a poor carbon copy of the same event.
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Propaganda - Goebbels' Principles
Propaganda - Goebbels' Principles
Joseph Goebbels
Dr. Joseph Goebbels, beside being an intriguing character, was the Propaganda Minister for Hitler's Third Reich. He was recognized as a master of propaganda as his work was studied after WWII. Goebbels did not survive to enjoy the recognition; he and his wife committed suicide on 1 May 1945, a week before the final collapse of the Third Reich.

After the war, US personnel discovered a very large diary dictated by Goebbels. In it are his principles of propaganda. Leonard Doob's 1950 article details them from a translation of the diary by Louis Lochner (1948).

Hitler's Basic Principles
These principles are abstracted from Jowett & O'Donnell.

  • Avoid abstract ideas - appeal to the emotions.
  • Constantly repeat just a few ideas. Use stereotyped phrases.
  • Give only one side of the argument.
  • Continuously criticize your opponents.
  • Pick out one special "enemy" for special vilification.


Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda
When reading these propaganda principles, keep in mind that they were applied in wartime (WWII) and involve issues that don't arise otherwise. It's a long list, but Goebbels was dealing with the complexity of an all-out war. While reading them you may realize that some of the principles are generally applicable and not limited to wartime. Some might be quite familiar today. It is interesting to note that Goebbels' principles derive from Hitler's own ideas of propaganda.

  1. Propagandists must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.
  2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.
    1. It must issue all the propaganda directives.
    2. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale.
    3. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences.
  3. The Propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.
  4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and actions.
    1. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence.
    2. By openly disseminating propaganda whose contents or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions.
    3. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself.
    4. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity.
  5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign.
  6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting medium.
  7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
  8. The purpose, content, and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose'; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.
  9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.
  10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.
  11. Black rather than white propaganda must be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.
  12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.
  13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
    1. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.
    2. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment.
    3. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness.
  14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
    1. They must evoke responses which the audience previously possesses.
    2. They must be capable of being easily learned.
    3. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations.
    4. They must be boomerang-proof.
  15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.
  16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.
    1. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat.
    2. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than that concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and cannot be reduced by people themselves.
  17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.
    1. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated.
    2. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective.
  18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
  19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.


These would be principles guiding the conduct of propaganda operations.



References
  • Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda, Leonard W. Doob, Public Opinion Quarterly, Fall 1950 pp. 419-442
  • Propagation and Persuasion; Jowett & O'Donnell
 
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LittleVol said:
Do you know the science behind the mRNA vaccine?

The body would still react to the virus (immune response) while blocking the spikes of the Covid-19 sars to connecting with our healthy cells.

So your body would still get ill even though the virus wouldn't replicate
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I’m still trying to figure out what you just said.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
People who in fact act like German National Socialist love Godwins law, change my mind.
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I don't think anyone is capable of changing your mind about anything and I'm not going to try to translate all the jibberish you've tossed around in your multiple rants that appear to equate to nothing more than "but you're a nazi."
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I don't think anyone is capable of changing your mind about anything and I'm not going to try to translate all the jibberish you've tossed around in your multiple rants that appear to equate to nothing more than "but you're a nazi."
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Just for the record, what exactly is your point or reason for posting in this thread?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Just for the record, what exactly is your point or reason for posting in this thread?
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Just for the record, i think i was pretty clear that the notion that there is a generations long conspiracy of nazis to take over the government and poison people with a vaccine is ludicrous. I'm entitled to that opinion and if i want to respond to the assertion, i will. Is there some reason I shouldn't be posting in this thread?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Just for the record, i think i was pretty clear that the notion that there is a generations long conspiracy of nazis to take over the government and poison people with a vaccine is ludicrous. I'm entitled to that opinion and if i want to respond to the assertion, i will. Is there some reason I shouldn't be posting in this thread?
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It is a ludicrous notion. You were clear.
 
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