Vaccine or not?

[Orangeslice13]

In a related story. A good friend of mine lost his 1st cousin last week to a sudden heart attack. It was a complete surprise and he had a lot of clotting at the time of his death.

He had Covid 2 times but never had the vaccine.
I know that doesn’t fit the narrative….

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I’m calling bull ****. No one in the .Gov stands up to big Pharma, hard to do when you are kissing the lobbyists fannypoopendecker.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Kroger in my area has gone downhill. I only go in there because they have good specials on killed meat to cook with fire.

We get a lot of meat there but have begun buying it at Walmart or Food Lion. It's a haul to get to Kroger and 5 mins for the other two. There are a lot of local butchers around too so we tend to buy bulk from them.

 

[82_VOL_83]

it was developed to be hard on certain sectors.

I would agree. I'm not above believing a whole lot of the "conspiracy" talk about this dang virus. I'm surprised Fauci and Gates are still walking around upright.

 

[VolinWayne]

In a related story. A good friend of mine lost his 1st cousin last week to a sudden heart attack. It was a complete surprise and he had a lot of clotting at the time of his death.

He had Covid 2 times but never had the vaccine.
I know that doesn’t fit the narrative….

I'm sorry to hear about your friend's cousin passing.....I think most of us are aware that the spike protein from covid is dangerous and causing health issues. Mainstream media has covered this well. What the media refuses to talk about is the spike protein from the vaccine. Thats why many of us push the one narrative over the other. My question has always been if the spike protein is bad from both the virus and the vaccine, wouldn't there be even more concern for those who are vaccinated and also have had the virus itself.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m calling bull ****. No one in the .Gov stands up to big Pharma, hard to do when you are kissing the lobbyists fannypoopendecker.

Just another lobbying group that comes before “we the people “

 

[VolinWayne]

The latest report on adverse reactions to vaccines in Western Australia has revealed that COVID-19 vaccinations have 24 times the rate of adverse reactions in the state compared to all other vaccines.

COVID Vaccines Show 24 Times More Adverse Reactions Than Others

 

[davethevol]

In a related story. A good friend of mine lost his 1st cousin last week to a sudden heart attack. It was a complete surprise and he had a lot of clotting at the time of his death.

He had Covid 2 times but never had the vaccine.
I know that doesn’t fit the narrative….

I think we need an honest look at all the data, but we simply aren’t getting that regarding the vaccines. At this point we don’t know what’s an injury due to the shot or to the virus or both much of the time. I had heart issues for a while for a few months after getting the virus and have never had the vaccine. The suppression of the questions regarding the safety of the vaccines is what’s alarming. We know the virus can cause serious issues, but the vaccine can’t? It’s hard to have an honest debate at this point due to how the government and social media got involved.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I think we need an honest look at all the data, but we simply aren’t getting that regarding the vaccines. At this point we don’t know what’s an injury due to the shot or to the virus or both much of the time. I had heart issues for a while for a few months after getting the virus and have never had the vaccine. The suppression of the questions regarding the safety of the vaccines is what’s alarming. We know the virus can cause serious issues, but the vaccine can’t? It’s hard to have an honest debate at this point due to how the government and social media got involved.

Fair point but I’ve known for a long time that the risk of side effects are equally across the 3 groups. (Vaccinated, unvaccinated who have Covid antibodies. Vaccinated and have Covid antibodies ) the only group that seems to be free of issue is….big “duh” statement here…..unvaccinated and no antibodies.
The legitimate data is out there, but as you have said, nobody is interested in the truth.

 

[Orangeslice13]

There’s also reason to believe that only people with a specific gene were affected.
Nobody seems to want to talk about that either

 

[kiddiedoc]

There’s also reason to believe that only people with a specific gene were affected.
Nobody seems to want to talk about that either

As in: if the numbers from China are even close to accurate, why aren't there ten million dead there?

 

[davethevol]

There’s also reason to believe that only people with a specific gene were affected.
Nobody seems to want to talk about that either

And I think that’s a major reason China has been buying up America’s dna info. Next time really will be catastrophic.

 

[Orangeslice13]

As in: if the numbers from China are even close to accurate, why aren't there ten million dead there?

As in I was shown a study that’s in review that says only people with the genetic markers in question have issues.
From that you can absolutely question the Chinese numbers….but more importantly, you can identify people who are at a higher risk and work on preventing the side effects.

 

[Orangeslice13]

And I think that’s a major reason China has been buying up America’s dna info. Next time really will be catastrophic.

That too can be a legitimate concern

 

[Orangeslice13]

As in: if the numbers from China are even close to accurate, why aren't there ten million dead there?

And honestly there might have been 10 million or more dead there. How would we know?
They’re exterminating Muslims there and nobody seems interested in that either

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Total US deaths the last 3 years for the following categories:

Heart disease:
696,962 (2020)
695,547 (2021)
699,659 (2022)

Cancer:
602,350 (2020)
605,213 (2021)
607,790 (2022)

Stroke:
160,264 (2020)
162,890 (2021)
163,341 (2022)

 

[davethevol]

Total US deaths the last 3 years for the following categories:

Heart disease:
696,962 (2020)
695,547 (2021)
699,659 (2022)

Cancer:
602,350 (2020)
605,213 (2021)
607,790 (2022)

Stroke:
160,264 (2020)
162,890 (2021)
163,341 (2022)

Now do Covid deaths.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Now do Covid deaths.

Total Deaths
3,383,729 (2020)
3,464,231 (2021)
3,273,705 (2022)

Covid Deaths
350,831 (2020)
416,893 (2021)
186,702 (2022)

Total Deaths less COVID deaths
3,032,898 (2020)
3,047,338 (2021)
3,087,003 (2022)

 

[Jxn Vol]

Insane that we shut the country down and tried to mandate a shot with no long term safety data over this.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Is that all vaccine or just the ones you don’t like?

Before 2021, the answer would have been "just the ones you don't like". But after all of the lying and gaslighting and heavy handed push to vaccinate when there were several alternatives available, I'm not so sure about any of them now.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

There’s also reason to believe that only people with a specific gene were affected.
Nobody seems to want to talk about that either

That is a rabbit hole that I don't even want to think about.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That is a rabbit hole that I don't even want to think about.

Sadly it’s reality

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Nothing to see here.

KILL SHOT: Recent Peer-Reviewed Report Finds 1 in 35 People Who Took Moderna COVID Shot Had Signs of Heart Damage | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

No reason to feel guilty if you pressured someone to take this. I'm sure it's nothing.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

There’s also reason to believe that only people with a specific gene were affected.
Nobody seems to want to talk about that either

Hypertensive, obese and diabeties. It’s gave me the inclination it was engineered.

 

[newyorkvol]

Hypertensive, obese and diabeties. It’s gave me the inclination it was engineered.

I mean, it’s so strange that it binds to ACE2 receptors and those are found in largely in heart, lung and arterial tissues. And even more strange that those receptors are expressed more as we age. Totally random.