Vaccine or not?

I certainly have no issue with that unlike many in this thread. They’d have an aneurysm if they visited S. Korea.

Lots of people in Seoul wore masks back in the day. I think it was more because of the stench than anything else.
 
On/off the subject….by August 2020 we knew exactly who was most at risk of death and severe disease from COVID…the elderly and those with significant comorbidities. So, how many lives were lost by these two decisions…..
1) delaying vaccine approval from September til November
2) prioritizing health care workers and teachers above elderly.

The Atlantic starts to admit how many were lost by the first decision, but then does cartwheels to minimize that number (What America Lost by Delaying the Vaccine Rollout). I don’t think there’s any way to know the answer to the second. But still to this point, 75% of deaths were over 65yo and 95% over 50yo. Vaccinating 25yo CNA’s and 35yo ICU nurses who probably already had it in January 2021 likely didn’t do any good.
 
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This is an incredibly short sighted opinion. Vent and antivirals were an after the fact issue. Shutting people up was isolated. The fact is, the shots helped curb the symptoms for many of us in the older crowd. You may say it was 99% survivable but it was very hard on certain population sectors. Remember, you will be old one of these days too. Hopefully you learn some humility by then.
Not sure why you think I’m not humble. The fact is a virus will mutate and get weaker with time. We should have never shut anything down and should have pushed other treatments than ventilators and antivirals. All that was a death sentence. The way it was handled is why the sub 90% groups did not do as well. I’m literally knee deep in this stuff on a daily basis. I’ve had a front row seat to the insanity.
 
OK, now you are showing immaturity. Just let it go. No one gives a **** what you make.
I am not the one that is calling someone poor bc they shop at Kroger. I asked him because he was not showing humility around us other poor Kroger shoppers. So you can gracefully bow out now.
 
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Not sure why you think I’m not humble. The fact is a virus will mutate and get weaker with time. We should have never shut anything down and should have pushed other treatments than ventilators and antivirals. All that was a death sentence. The way it was handled is why the sub 90% groups did not do as well. I’m literally knee deep in this stuff on a daily basis. I’ve had a front row seat to the insanity.
Agree 100% (as you already know)
 
I am not the one that is calling someone poor bc they shop at Kroger. I asked him because he was not showing humility around us other poor Kroger shoppers. So you can gracefully bow out now.
Yet you’re the one attempting to mock people about double and triple masking and wearing gloves in Kroger if you recall.
 
Not sure why you think I’m not humble. The fact is a virus will mutate and get weaker with time. We should have never shut anything down and should have pushed other treatments than ventilators and antivirals. All that was a death sentence. The way it was handled is why the sub 90% groups did not do as well. I’m literally knee deep in this stuff on a daily basis. I’ve had a front row seat to the insanity.

The reason that all the doctors that found alternative treatments were crapped on is because if there was an alternate treatment out there then the emergency approval would have never happened. That's why they came down hard on the monoclonal antibodies....which were very effective. That costs God knows how many lives. If my uncle could have gotten that treatment then he would still be alive.
 
Still trying to figure out what's wrong with Kroger. It's not my go-to, but I'll go there to catch great deals (like $1.99/# Angus brisket recently), and their fuel point system is wicked good.
There's nothing wrong with the (I think) largest grocery chain in the country. The $5 million dollar "man" in the thread is just a jackass.
 
Not sure why you think I’m not humble. The fact is a virus will mutate and get weaker with time. We should have never shut anything down and should have pushed other treatments than ventilators and antivirals. All that was a death sentence. The way it was handled is why the sub 90% groups did not do as well. I’m literally knee deep in this stuff on a daily basis. I’ve had a front row seat to the insanity.
And all of this was well after the initial onslaught. I agree with you post 20 but early on, nobody knew anything and for those of us in hotspots like Hopkins County KY, we were grasping at everything. I also thought the shutdowns were draconian and the masking mandates ridiculous. I had my reasons for protecting myself but for others it was largely ignored.

Edit: 20 not 21.
 
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