Vaccine or not?

[tnmarktx]

I agree.
I just wish they’d let us know more often which treatments are working and which ones are not.

They take a lot of criticism and blame as a country and people. That has probably made them feel some type of way towards the rest of the world.

 

[LouderVol]

And……
They’re doing way better vs mortality and serious cases.

“There are about 83,000 active cases, compared with some 88,000 during the third wave, but the number of patients in serious condition and those who have died in August has been lower. At last count, 520 people had died in August, with a peak of 756 patients in serious condition, compared with more than 1,400 deaths in January and a record of some 1,200 patients in serious condition.”


guess who the dead and serious cases are.

Better treatments too. Israel hasnt relied on just the vaccine.

 

[allvol123]

Better treatments too. Israel hasnt relied on just the vaccine.

I'd also add you continue to decrease the pool of people that are more susceptible to succumb to the illness, at time passes.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Here is my advice, never listen to someone who claims to be a doctor on the internet that is pushing a horse dewormer instead of a vaccine.

Here's my advice: seek understanding by reading actual medical literature and discussing with knowledgeable professionals, rather than lapping up and regurgitating buzzwords you hear on MSNBC and reposting TikTok videos.

Oh, and try harder to not misrepresent what I (or others in the medical field) have said on this subject.

 

[Weezy]

Good luck winning an election with this strategy

Is he counting all unvaccinated as Republican? Maybe someone needs to show him some numbers by demographic.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Better treatments too. Israel hasnt relied on just the vaccine.

Yes that’s what I’m hearing from my cousins but they are not publishing data on treatments. I wish they would. Inquiring minds want to know what’s working and what isn’t

 

[MAD]

Covid denialists are, especially at this point in the pandemic, rejecting its existence purely to save face.

Here’s why your efforts to convince anti-vaxxers aren’t working | Brooke Harrington

In 2021, this “moral failure” takes the form of Covid-infected pandemic deniers and anti-vaxxers ranting from hospital beds: they have chosen saving face over saving other people’s lives. They could do this by telling the truth and exposing the con, saying: “Covid is real, get vaccinated.” Some do. But many won’t. It’s difficult not to conclude that some are making a conscious choice to protect themselves socially and emotionally at the expense of the rest of us.

 

[C-south]

Covid denialists are, especially at this point in the pandemic, rejecting its existence purely to save face.

Here’s why your efforts to convince anti-vaxxers aren’t working | Brooke Harrington

In 2021, this “moral failure” takes the form of Covid-infected pandemic deniers and anti-vaxxers ranting from hospital beds: they have chosen saving face over saving other people’s lives. They could do this by telling the truth and exposing the con, saying: “Covid is real, get vaccinated.” Some do. But many won’t. It’s difficult not to conclude that some are making a conscious choice to protect themselves socially and emotionally at the expense of the rest of us.

How is getting vaccinated “saving others lives”?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Better treatments too. Israel hasnt relied on just the vaccine.

Wow, treatments??? What a novel concept.

I thought vaccines that are declining in efficacy were the end-all solution?

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Good luck winning an election with this strategy

Hmm I have never visited a doctor who asked if I voted republican or democrat. I just checked my drivers license and nowhere does it state republican or democrat and neither does my insurance card.

How is this information being obtained?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Wow, treatments??? What a novel concept.

I thought vaccines that are declining in efficacy were the end-all solution?

למה לא לעשות את שני הדברים

(Why not try both)

 

[MAD]

How is getting vaccinated “saving others lives”?

One example, by being vaccinated, 99% of the unvaccinated would not be taking up all the resources in hospitals and it would allow for others to get cancer screenings, colonoscopy etc. that people are unable to get now. Who knows what consequences will result from catching things too late because of the unvaccinated freedoms?

 

[OrangeTsar]

Seriously folks. I don’t want the government TELLING me to get vaccinated. But anyone with a basic grasp of statistics (and doesn’t have a Medical condition that makes vaccination dangerous) should see that it is wise to get one. Even if I have a 99% chance of surviving Covid -and maybe a 30% chance of catching it in the first place, a 1/300 chance of death from Covid is a lot bigger risk than maybe 1 in a million risk of dying from a reaction to the vaccine. Get the shot people. If not for yourself, get it for the people who would be devastated by your death, the people who love you. I can think of nothing worse than having my children and wife weeping over my casket because of something I could have avoided with two free low risk shots. That would just be cruel.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Hey look.
A summary of peer reviewed studies.
Early results look promising

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

 

[tnmarktx]

Hey look.
A summary of peer reviewed studies.
Early results look promising

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

Queue the horse dewormer memes....

 

[Orangeslice13]

Queue the horse dewormer memes....

I don’t understand the mentality of deciding what you think the results should be then looking for proof.
Vaccines for Covid work. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have treatments. It appears early this treatment may work. That doesn’t mean we don’t need to use the vaccine. the answer to getting past this thing is likely a combination of both

 

[kiddiedoc]

למה לא לעשות את שני הדברים

(Why not try both)

Bingo!

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Seriously folks. I don’t want the government TELLING me to get vaccinated. But anyone with a basic grasp of statistics (and doesn’t have a Medical condition that makes vaccination dangerous) should see that it is wise to get one. Even if I have a 99% chance of surviving Covid -and maybe a 30% chance of catching it in the first place, a 1/300 chance of death from Covid is a lot bigger risk than maybe 1 in a million risk of dying from a reaction to the vaccine. Get the shot people. If not for yourself, get it for the people who would be devastated by your death, the people who love you. I can think of nothing worse than having my children and wife weeping over my casket because of something I could have avoided with two free low risk shots. That would just be cruel.

I'm so tired of the phrase in bold. Mind your own business.

 

[C-south]

One example, by being vaccinated, 99% of the unvaccinated would not be taking up all the resources in hospitals and it would allow for others to get cancer screenings, colonoscopy etc. that people are unable to get now. Who knows what consequences will result from catching things too late because of the unvaccinated freedoms?

This is the type of idiotic fear mongering that deters people to begin with.

 

[MAD]

This is the type of idiotic fear mongering that deters people to begin with.

Look , I don’t care if you get it or not, you have to live with you choices. You asked me to give you a reason how not getting vaccinated impacts others. I gave you an example. You called it idiotic fear mongering not me. You really believe hospitals are lying when they are holding off on routine exams and x-rays and surgeries. Have you not heard of so many having to have telehealth appointments instead? Maybe it’s just here in Florida, sorry to waste your time.

 

[whodeycin85]

Look , I don’t care if you get it or not, you have to live with you choices. You asked me to give you a reason how not getting vaccinated impacts others. I gave you an example. You called it idiotic fear mongering not me. You really believe hospitals are lying when they are holding off on routine exams and x-rays and surgeries. Have you not heard of so many having to have telehealth appointments instead? Maybe it’s just here in Florida, sorry to waste your time.

I believe hospitals are holding off on treating in order to generate more government funding for the treatment of covud patients.
I think its a complete failure of our medical system that it cannot handle a virus that is only infecting 11% of the poputlaton, and an even smaller % need hospitalized..

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

למה לא לעשות את שני הדברים

(Why not try both)

 

[Vjcvette]

How is getting vaccinated “saving others lives”?

The reason that smallpox and polio were eradicated is because everyone took the vaccine, so yes getting
vaccinated saves other peoples lives.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Seriously folks. I don’t want the government TELLING me to get vaccinated. But anyone with a basic grasp of statistics (and doesn’t have a Medical condition that makes vaccination dangerous) should see that it is wise to get one. Even if I have a 99% chance of surviving Covid -and maybe a 30% chance of catching it in the first place, a 1/300 chance of death from Covid is a lot bigger risk than maybe 1 in a million risk of dying from a reaction to the vaccine. Get the shot people. If not for yourself, get it for the people who would be devastated by your death, the people who love you. I can think of nothing worse than having my children and wife weeping over my casket because of something I could have avoided with two free low risk shots. That would just be cruel.

Where are you getting that 1 in a million number?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The reason that smallpox and polio were eradicated is because everyone took the vaccine, so yes getting
vaccinated saves other peoples lives.

Small pox and polio had years of research behind them.