Vaccine or not?

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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm all for common ground. But we need to arrive there with reason, good info and proper discernment. The main issue is that right now, the "good info" is lacking. I don't trust your data or your sources, and you don't trust my data or my sources. So that hampers any reasonable dialogue. I don't blame that on us peons down here hashing it out on the streets. I blame that on the people that are supposed to be delivering us unbiased, truthful information. IMO, the CDC and Fauci have done irreparable harm to the medical profession with all of the goalpost moving and distortions (guidance on masks has shifted four times in a year and a half). If we are not given information that both sides can agree is pure, than we stand where we are right now... at each others throats.

Reason right now is lacking because we are being bombarded with all of these Tik-Tok/Youtube videos of either extreme cases or outright fabrications (raise my hand for engaging in some of that). Both sides are aiming to make emotional appeals. No room for reason and logic.
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Could not have said it any better, myself.

As I've said multiple times: the solution to a novel and complex problem will most always come from creative thinking, an openness to new ideas, the ability to consider less-popularized options, and good/reliable data.
 
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hog88 said:
All 3 links are about the same 1 rural doctor and his comment. No other source for the claim about the whole state of OK, just 1 Dr in the eastern part of the state.
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And no numbers or patients. Hospitals are filling up... we've heard that line before. It could be 2 yahoos that ran into a rural hospital and they turn that into the hospitals are filling up.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Could not have said it any better, myself.

As I've said multiple times: the solution to a novel and complex problem will most always come from creative thinking, an openness to new ideas, the ability to consider less-popularized options, and good/reliable data.
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Agreed
All options should be considered and tested.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It doesn’t sound like we’re talking about the same article, tbh. The people writing the article I’m referring to had nothing to do with the studies. It was just a review of several studies.

Based on how the article was written, it appeared to have been taken as well-established by the scientists in the Wisconsin study from August. Their study should explain whether that was an assumption and, if so, why they made it. Those tend to be based on other studies. If it was an assumption and was established pre-delta, then it may no longer be valid, but since they have more education and experience in this field than I do and were specifically studying Delta I’m good with discussing it as if their assumption was correct until given a more concrete reason not to.
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And the studies didnt have actual numbers that could be referenced by the authors?

We have been making assumptions these experts know what they talk about. But we also keep hearing that they have never dealt with something like this before. We have seen them flip flop on stances, studies be pulled, numbers changed after the fact. What exactly are we trusting in?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I prefer my “signs” to be the voice of G-d from a burning cloud that only I can see.
So far I have not received any signs. Which I think is very unfair. Lord knows I should not be the one making decisions.
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Timshel make your own decisions.
 
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LouderVol said:
And the studies didnt have actual numbers that could be referenced by the authors?

We have been making assumptions these experts know what they talk about. But we also keep hearing that they have never dealt with something like this before. We have seen them flip flop on stances, studies be pulled, numbers changed after the fact. What exactly are we trusting in?
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Did you read the study or are you jumping to these conclusions without checking?
 
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Ex-Coronation Street star Sean Ward is arrested as violent anti-vaxx mob clash with police and injure four officers after they stormed UK medicines regulator's Canary Wharf HQ

Ex-Coronation Street actor Sean Ward was among ten people arrested today as a violent mob of anti-vaxxers battled with police in Canary Wharf.

Thee protesters battled with officers as they attempted to get through the doors of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA)'s headquarters in east London.

Four officers were hurt as protesters tried to storm the HQ where Covid jabs were approved.

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Anti-vaxxer protesters face off with police officers at Canary Wharf in East London today

Anti-vaxx mob clashes with police at Canary Wharf | Daily Mail Online
 
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