Vaccine or not?

[davethevol]

Well. Our local hospital announced they staff has to be vaccinated by 12/5. The CEO expects to lose 30% of the staff including the surgeon. Another hospital is looking at shutting down due to lack of staff that is 35 miles away from me

It’s like they think they will still be operational. It won’t be long before the vaccinated workers are burned out and quit.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I've worked for this same company for 16 years, have a family, house and bills to pay. While taking a stand is what I want to do, my family come first. If it comes down to it, I will probably end up getting the J&J since it's the closest to a normal vaccine.

I will make my stand at the ballot box. I will campaign and vote for anyone who opposes these large Government takeovers of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Dont get J&J. It’s the riskiest of the three

 

[evillawyer]

You can choose to protect yourself more than the norm by staying home. That’s your choice. And to your point of unvaccinated spreading it to someone else, it’s irrelevant because so can the vaccinated. Maybe it’s a little less of a chance but the chance it still there.

And you can choose to be a member of society by getting yourself vaxxed. Don't know why you think the default/baseline should be "I can do whatever I want in the common space and if you don't like it you can stay home." Do we get to run around nude? Drink in public? Have sex in public? Make as much noise as we want in public?

 

[tomq_123]

And you can choose to be a member of society by getting yourself vaxxed. Don't know why you think the default/baseline should be "I can do whatever I want in the common space and if you don't like it you can stay home." Do we get to run around nude? Drink in public? Have sex in public? Make as much noise as we want in public?

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Opinion | Natural Immunity and the Covid Vaccines

 

[tomq_123]

Why do tbe drug companies have immunity from liability? If it’s so safe, why have that.

 

[tnmarktx]

 

[85SugarVol]

Hmm. The deadline for the OSHA vaccine mandate is being pushed to Jan 4th.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/bid...ses-have-until-after-christmas-to-comply.html

From the Administration -

"A virus that has killed more than 745,000 Americans with more than 70,000 new cases per day currently is clearly a health hazard that poses a grave danger to workers," said Labor Department Solicitor Seema Nanda during a press briefing Thursday.

But we are now pushing out the deadline so as to not negatively impact the Holidays? Is Covid a “grave danger” or is it not?

This doesn’t follow…

 

[RikidyBones]

I'm so pissed about this mandate. I hate Covid last year, I work 100% remote (for a fortune 100 company) and now I will be required to get a vaccine I don't want or need. I really hope the Supreme Court strikes this down.

I think WFH employees are exempt.

"Employees of covered employers not subject to the requirements.
The ETS does not apply to employees who do not report to a workplace where other individuals such as coworkers or customers are present, employees while they are working from home, or employees who work exclusively outdoors."

 

[hUTch2002]

And you can choose to be a member of society by getting yourself vaxxed. Don't know why you think the default/baseline should be "I can do whatever I want in the common space and if you don't like it you can stay home." Do we get to run around nude? Drink in public? Have sex in public? Make as much noise as we want in public?

Bad analogy considering you can still spread the virus even with your vaccine.

 

[hUTch2002]

I'm so pissed about this mandate. I hate Covid last year, I work 100% remote (for a fortune 100 company) and now I will be required to get a vaccine I don't want or need. I really hope the Supreme Court strikes this down.

Since you’re 100% at home you shouldn’t have to get it actually.

 

[VolinWayne]

Or stand your ground, and don't get it.

This all day. If enough people will just simply refuse they will have to remove the mandates.

 

[TheDirector]

Hmm. The deadline for the OSHA vaccine mandate is being pushed to Jan 4th.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/bid...ses-have-until-after-christmas-to-comply.html

From the Administration -



But we are now pushing out the deadline so as to not negatively impact the Holidays? Is Covid a “grave danger” or is it not?

This doesn’t follow…

You hit the nail on the head. No different than climate change being a grave danger and imminent threat so Joe Biden sends a 50 car motorcade to the summit. Many of the elites flew in for the conference on private jets. But it's an emergency. Now Covid is an emergency but we will delay these so called life saving measures until after the holidays? Pay attention to their actions and it will tell you whether its really an emergency or not.

 

[VolinWayne]

Why do tbe drug companies have immunity from liability? If it’s so safe, why have that.

Because they know the vaccines are a huge liability. They don't care about saving lives, all they care about is $$$$

 

[NorthDallas40]

You haven't met Bubbles! The way she struts, they call it a catwalk for a reason.

Thanks for proving my point!

 

[ButchPlz]

You hit the nail on the head. No different than climate change being a grave danger and imminent threat so Joe Biden sends a 50 car motorcade to the summit. Many of the elites flew in for the conference on private jets. But it's an emergency. Now Covid is an emergency but we will delay these so called life saving measures until after the holidays? Pay attention to their actions and it will tell you whether its really an emergency or not.

50? Try over 80.

 

[Zues1]

No one's forcing you to get vaccinated. I'm sure your employer will happily pay for your weekly cerebral matter poke.
Now where did I put that blue font?

 

[Vol8188]

I’m not ready. After effects 2-10 yrs down the road concern me. If I were under 50, no way in hell I take it.

Thoughts?

I got vaccinated but idk about a booster. I just now even found out they were a thing. I’m not sure I intend on signing up for this for the rest of my life

 

[Carl Pickens]

Charles Blow trips over inconvenient Covid data…

 

[C-south]

Because they know the vaccines are a huge liability. They don't care about saving lives, all they care about is $$$$

If they’re going to mandate it then the protections need to be lifted.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Science!!!

Also, is the USPS still being exempted from the mandate?

And congress, I believe.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Or stand your ground, and don't get it.

I will.

 

[evillawyer]

If you are scared of the virus don’t leave your home. It’s that simple.

How do you take your argument when I sub in a different noun:

"If you are scared of crime, don't leave your home. It's that simple."

Is that a good argument for doing nothing about crime?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How do you take your argument when I sub in a different noun:

"If you are scared of crime, don't leave your home. It's that simple."

Is that a good argument for doing nothing about crime?

LOL

Dance for us, clown.

 

[Sea Ray]

Do you often subject your children to drug trials?

Who would volunteer their kids under age 5 for these trials?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

And congress, I believe.

Well congress always gets an exemption on everything.