Vaccine or not?

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luthervol said:
lol......
I've had a great idea for decades that no one seems willing to adopt.
Since private schools are so superior, let them take 2-5% of the students that public schools can't seem to reach.
I would even support vouchers for that.
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Mine did. No voucher. Church funded
 
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DonjoVol said:
I bet he's also okay with businesses forcing their employees to take vaccines like these so called Libertarians are.
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I don't think you quite understand what libertarianism believes. While there are outliers within every political philosophy, I don't think the majority would support government intervention in the dealings between a business and it's employees.

There are some R's that support(ed) lockdowns and mask mandates, and democrats that didn't - why didn't you point that out?
 
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Septic said:
I don't think you quite understand what libertarianism believes. While there are outliers within every political philosophy, I don't think the majority would support government intervention in the dealings between a business and it's employees.

There are some R's that support(ed) lockdowns and mask mandates, and democrats that didn't - why didn't you point that out?
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Simple. I'm not talking about lockdowns or mask mandates. And I'm aware that the governors of states like Vermont, Massachusetts and Maryland are Republicans. Legislatures are probably democrat controlled.

By the way. I don't think the Libertarian Party itself is okay with these vaccine mandates or with anyone trying to force or coerce people to take vaccines by threatening them with job loss.

And there is no difference whether it's government or a business trying to force people to take vaccines. Plus this current administration has encouraged corporations and other business to impose vaccine mandates. Which is not right.
 
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Septic said:
I don't think you quite understand what libertarianism believes. While there are outliers within every political philosophy, I don't think the majority would support government intervention in the dealings between a business and it's employees.
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That is the blind spot in their ideology. They would be okay with the private sector having the right to have mandates, but ignore the possibility that in a fascist system, the govt and big corporations could be working in concert with each other or govt could be influencing or coercing businesses to take actions that they normally wouldn't. When dealing with cartelism, these big corporations can collude amongst each other and create a situation where an individual could not leave one company with a mandate and go to a different one without a mandate. The cartel would remove those options.
 
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I got a few simple questions. Can someone force their neighbors to take a vaccine? Then why would it be okay if that person owned a business to force their employees to take a vaccine?
 
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luthervol said:
lol......
I've had a great idea for decades that no one seems willing to adopt.
Since private schools are so superior, let them take 2-5% of the students that public schools can't seem to reach.
I would even support vouchers for that.
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You should support vouchers in general.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I got a few simple questions. Can someone force their neighbors to take a vaccine? Then why would it be okay if that person owned a business to force their employees to take a vaccine?
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I am not paying my neighbor to live next to me.

I have to dress and act a certain way for my work. I would imagine pretty much anywhere does. Some places have fitness requirements if you do manual work. If you work somewhere with soecific dangers you are required to taken certain precautions. Deal with food you have the health department up your butt.

For me a business mandate only bothers me if it's the only health requirement and it's new. If the business already required you to have shots as a term of employment, travel, than a Covid vaccine mandate doesnt bother me.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That is the blind spot in their ideology. They would be okay with the private sector having the right to have mandates, but ignore the possibility that in a fascist system, the govt and big corporations could be working in concert with each other or govt could be influencing or coercing businesses to take actions that they normally wouldn't. When dealing with cartelism, these big corporations can collude amongst each other and create a situation where an individual could not leave one company with a mandate and go to a different one without a mandate. The cartel would remove those options.
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DonjoVol said:
I got a few simple questions. Can someone force their neighbors to take a vaccine? Then why would it be okay if that person owned a business to force their employees to take a vaccine?
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No one's forcing anyone to get a vaccine.

Life is made of choices, if you CHOOSE not to get the vaccine then you're consciously and knowingly forfeiting your ability to work for that employer.

So while you will no longer be employed, no one is going to hold you down and stick a needle in your arm either. Ultimately it's comes down to a choice.
 
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Septic said:
No one's forcing anyone to get a vaccine.

Life is made of choices, if you CHOOSE not to get the vaccine then you're consciously and knowingly forfeiting your ability to work for that employer.

So while you will no longer be employed, no one is going to hold you down and stick a needle in your arm either. Ultimately it's comes down to a choice.
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So the employees have a right to sue their employer if they suffer any side effects of the vaccine?
 
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