Vaccine or not?

They story of Kyle Warner.

Kyle Warner, who is a 29-year-old mountain bike racing champion, claims his career is now over after contracting pericarditis, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS), and arthritis following his second dose of the Pfizer COVID vaccine.

He posted a video to Instagram where he tearfully lays out how he has lost friends and family after coming forward over the side effects of the vaccine. He can be seen struggling to contain himself and is not dealing well with what has happened after he submitted to the jab.



Mountain bike legend Kyle Warner posts crushing video on incivility over 'career-ending' vaccine side effects

 
The European Union’s drug regulator has indicated that a change to the product information for COVID-19 vaccines from AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson has been recommended to include a warning of a rare spinal cord condition called transverse myelitis.

TM is a rare condition that involves inflammation of one or both sides of the spinal cord. Symptoms can include weakness in the limbs, and tingling, numbness, pain or loss of pain sensation, or issues with bladder and bowel function.


Rare Spinal Cord Condition Flagged as Potential Adverse Effect of COVID-19 Vaccines: EU Drug Regulator Rare Spinal Cord Condition Flagged as Potential Adverse Effect of COVID-19 Vaccines: EU Drug Regulator

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Do we have to go through this again with the math?

.06% is 6 times higher than .01%. If those are the odds of me dying unvaccinated vs vaccinated, I still like my odds being unvaccinated.

You guys love throwing out these numbers without any context.

Thanks for emphasizing exactly what the article said. 8188 could take maths lessons from you.
 
Can you address the distortion in the numbers that you all often use as scare tactics? Or is it better to just attack me instead?

I didn't attack you. 8188, sure, but not you.

The words in the article line up to the numbers. No feels involved; it's standard analysis. Your disagreement isn't with me, it's with the article author.

I'm in the "You do you" crowd at this point. Want the jab? Enjoy! Don't want it? Enjoy!
 
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And here is one way to control the narrative…..
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article257335847.html

A doctor with decades of experience can’t practice medicine after her license was temporarily suspended over complaints that she shared coronavirus misinformation, according to a Maine licensing board. The board has ordered her to undergo a neuropsychological evaluation, it said.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article257335847.html#storylink=cpy
But but but doctors are free to practice however they want and do studies that may have results that run counter to the narrative.
 
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But but but doctors are free to practice however they want and do studies that may have results that run counter to the narrative.
Just think, psych evals for doctors that go against the narrative. Psych evals for gun owners. Soon it will be psych evals for parents that speak up at school board meetings.
 
Just think, psych evals for doctors that go against the narrative. Psych evals for gun owners. Soon it will be psych evals for parents that speak up at school board meetings.

Given her advanced age, it makes sense.

She's as old as the hanger-on who killed my father-in-law by prescribing an antibiotic contraindicated to anyone with a pacemaker. Fried his ****ing heart.
 
The tech has been in use for years, and long term studies show no critical issues. Glad to see it being used against Guillaume-Barr
Oh stop. The tech has not been deployed for human use until this damn fiasco and the only vax available are still covered by the EUA. There are no long term studies yet on the impact to humans and you know it!
 
Oh stop. The tech has not been deployed for human use until this damn fiasco and the only vax available are still covered by the EUA. There are no long term studies yet on the impact to humans and you know it!

Influenza mRNA vaccination trials began in 2015 with no long term issues reported thus far. That's six+ years. How long do we wait?

mRNA vaccines against H10N8 and H7N9 influenza viruses of pandemic potential are immunogenic and well tolerated in healthy adults in phase 1 randomized clinical trials - PubMed
 
Influenza mRNA vaccination trials began in 2015 with no long term issues reported thus far. That's seven years. How long do we wait?
Do you consider myocardial inflammation a "critical issue?"

Did you find time to read the Pfizer EUA I referenced for you yesterday? I'll find the link.
 
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Ash, the simplified version from the Pfizer package insert:

Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Although some cases required intensive care support, available data from short-term follow-up suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms with conservative management. Information is not yet available about potential long-term sequelae.
 
Influenza mRNA vaccination trials began in 2015 with no long term issues reported thus far. That's six+ years. How long do we wait?

mRNA vaccines against H10N8 and H7N9 influenza viruses of pandemic potential are immunogenic and well tolerated in healthy adults in phase 1 randomized clinical trials - PubMed
Apparently we wait until there is a “world wide pandemic” and even then we keep administering only EUA covered jabs long after there was an FDA approved version. That’s absolutely legit amirite?
 
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Apparently we wait until there is a “world wide pandemic” and even then we keep administering only EUA covered jabs long after there was an FDA approved version. That’s absolutely legit amirite?

Hey, don't blame me that Trump et al turned down a more traditional vaccine route because the technology wasn't new and cool. I've posted that link in here before, I'll have to go and find it.
 
Hey, don't blame me that Trump et al turned down a more traditional vaccine route because the technology wasn't new and cool. I've posted that link in here before, I'll have to go and find it.
I’m not blaming you for that. I’m blaming you for claiming there are no long term detrimental effects data when the PFizer package insert kiddiedoc quoted to you says it still doesn’t exist 🤷‍♂️

It’s in trials. That’s it. Without the bat flu they would all still be in trials. Period.
 

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