Vaccine or not?

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ButchPlz said:
"Nobody from the CDC or any other medical organization that should be reputable?" isn't implying that one of your "real" healthcare professionals didn't make the quote? It's funny watching you get absolutely blasted in every single thread trying to weasel around your own words. You'd make a decent small town councilman trying to flex nuts all over before getting arrested for embezzling money or diddling a kid, I'll give you that.
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You're a trip. A question is not necessarily an implication, and my questions were not implications. If you don't want to accept that, then that's up to you.
Your twisting of words and constant insults indicate that you've got some issues. Good luck getting them worked out.
 
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EasternVol said:
You're a trip. A question is not necessarily an implication, and my questions were not implications. If you don't want to accept that, then that's up to you.
Your twisting of words and constant insults indicate that you've got some issues. Good luck getting them worked out.
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I'm not twisting anything. I posted your direct quote 🤡🤡🤡

Easy targets, easy targets.
 
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EasternVol said:
My opinion about the jab being beneficial, sure, because it is. My question was why so many think the jab was supposed to be foolproof. Like I said, it was never presented as foolproof when I got my shots. So CDC fell down on the job.
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Beneficial. Perhaps. But you have to admit that the reluctance by the government to hold the pharma s accountable for mass injecting the populace with a 'vaccine' of a type that has never before been successful in human trials... AND... allowing those same companies to withhold information from the public for decades had to smell of rotten fish. And then to change the definition of what a vaccine even is also smelled. I'm happy for you that you believe it was effective and safe. What I will never understand about you people is how you can continue to deny that it did not prevent infection and insist that those of us who chose to forego this therapy ( because that is really what it is) are some kind of flat earthers. Get the shots. Get every single booster that Fauci thinks you need. I Don't Care. Just leave me alone.

And you statement that it was never presented as foolproof is just wrong. Puddinhead himself said it. And for this, the CDC has lost tons of credibility, yet you will still roll up your sleeve because they say so. Amazing
 
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McDad said:
Currently it's optional at McRib's hospital. Flu vaccine is optional too but they require masks during season if no flu shot.
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It’s not optional with the Catholic hospital. Either exemption, get the shot or get fired. Flu shots are optional. I’ve been masked since Nov 2019 ugh.
 
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EasternVol said:
My opinion about the jab being beneficial, sure, because it is. My question was why so many think the jab was supposed to be foolproof. Like I said, it was never presented as foolproof when I got my shots. So CDC fell down on the job.
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I read this... You failed to do your due diligence, but got the shots anyway. You have no one to blame but yourself, because you panicked. It wasn't the CDC that failed. It was you.
 
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For those who believe in getting jabbed every time the government says and those who got the initial jab, but said to heck with the boosters, what are your thoughts on those people who have had the virus? Why should they be required to get the jab?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I read this... You failed to do your due diligence, but got the shots anyway. You have no one to blame but yourself, because you panicked. It wasn't the CDC that failed. It was you.
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I did my due diligence and decided the jabs were the best option. No panic. No failure.
Now I see I wasn't clear enough in the quoted statement, I should have written 'when and where' instead of just 'when'. My initial question, in response to someone saying people were told the vaccines prevent infection:.
Were people in the US told that the jabs would prevent all infections? By medical professionals? When I got mine, not in the US, I was told that it would reduce the chance of infection and reduce the chance of getting real sick if infected, thus reducing the chance of spreading it
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Beneficial. Perhaps. But you have to admit that the reluctance by the government to hold the pharma s accountable for mass injecting the populace with a 'vaccine' of a type that has never before been successful in human trials... AND... allowing those same companies to withhold information from the public for decades had to smell of rotten fish. And then to change the definition of what a vaccine even is also smelled. I'm happy for you that you believe it was effective and safe. What I will never understand about you people is how you can continue to deny that it did not prevent infection and insist that those of us who chose to forego this therapy ( because that is really what it is) are some kind of flat earthers. Get the shots. Get every single booster that Fauci thinks you need. I Don't Care. Just leave me alone.

And you statement that it was never presented as foolproof is just wrong. Puddinhead himself said it. And for this, the CDC has lost tons of credibility, yet you will still roll up your sleeve because they say so. Amazing
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I didn't say it was never presented as foolproof; I was asking if it was presented that way.
 
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EasternVol said:
I did my due diligence and decided the jabs were the best option. No panic. No failure.
Now I see I wasn't clear enough in the quoted statement, I should have written 'when and where' instead of just 'when'. My initial question, in response to someone saying people were told the vaccines prevent infection:.
Were people in the US told that the jabs would prevent all infections? By medical professionals? When I got mine, not in the US, I was told that it would reduce the chance of infection and reduce the chance of getting real sick if infected, thus reducing the chance of spreading it
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Oh... so you got your shots overseas somewhere and you believe the information was more 'honest' (for lack of a better word). And then you parse words. So I'll call BS that you looked that deeply into the verbiage of how this crap was presented whether it was here or outer Mongolia. The lie was universal and you know it. But keep on trying to sell the same message that people are finally starting to figure out.

The WuFlu is the biggest con ever perpetuated on humanity.

LOL
 
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EasternVol said:
I didn't say it was never presented as foolproof; I was asking if it was presented that way.
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Seriously? This is but one example:

AP FACT CHECK: Biden goes too far in assurances on vaccines

So here we go with your picking the words that suit your argument... Even your beloved CDC said those that got vaccinated and subsequently getting infected was 'rare'. No.. not "foolproof", but allegedly good enough that millions ran right out without thinking it thru to get stuck with an experimental treatment.

PolitiFact - Joe Biden exaggerates efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Oh... so you got your shots overseas somewhere and you believe the information was more 'honest' (for lack of a better word). And then you parse words. So I'll call BS that you looked that deeply into the verbiage of how this crap was presented whether it was here or outer Mongolia. The lie was universal and you know it. But keep on trying to sell the same message that people are finally starting to figure out.

The WuFlu is the biggest con ever perpetuated on humanity.

LOL
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It's simple. Before I got the jabs I spoke with my doctor. He was very clear that even with the shots I could still get and spread the bug, (edit- but the chances were lower and the bug wouldn't be as severe as without the shots). That corresponded to what I had seen locally. And I already knew that it was new and had some risk. As mentioned I decided it was best to get the shots. If you want to twist that so it fits your narrative then that's up to you, but it won't be true.
Believe it or not, not all countries play politics with public health. It's a shame that everything and I mean everything in the US is politicized.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Seriously? This is but one example:

AP FACT CHECK: Biden goes too far in assurances on vaccines

So here we go with your picking the words that suit your argument... Even your beloved CDC said those that got vaccinated and subsequently getting infected was 'rare'. No.. not "foolproof", but allegedly good enough that millions ran right out without thinking it thru to get stuck with an experimental treatment.

PolitiFact - Joe Biden exaggerates efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines
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That's helps answer my question. I wasn't here and I wasn't paying attention to Biden.
 
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EasternVol said:
Believe it or not, not all countries play politics with public health. It's a shame that everything and I mean everything in the US is politicized.
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Actually all with single payer/socialized med can't separate themselves from govt. Maybe it's less politicized because there is no real way to create a divide when one entity controls it
 
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It's still absolutley insane what's happening in other countries.

New Zealand father has been banned from having contact with his three children until the whole family is vaccinated, a family court judge has ruled.

Indeed, if [the middle child] was in the care of two parents who were refusing to vaccinate him, I would consider having him removed from their care until such time as he could be properly vaccinated,” Grieg said in the judgement.

New Zealand Father Banned From Contacting His Children Until He Gets Vaccinated New Zealand Father Banned From Contacting His Children Until He Gets Vaccinated
 
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VolinWayne said:
It's still absolutley insane what's happening in other countries.

New Zealand father has been banned from having contact with his three children until the whole family is vaccinated, a family court judge has ruled.

Indeed, if [the middle child] was in the care of two parents who were refusing to vaccinate him, I would consider having him removed from their care until such time as he could be properly vaccinated,” Grieg said in the judgement.

New Zealand Father Banned From Contacting His Children Until He Gets Vaccinated New Zealand Father Banned From Contacting His Children Until He Gets Vaccinated
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Someone in NZ needs to end Grieg.
 
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EasternVol said:
It's simple. Before I got the jabs I spoke with my doctor. He was very clear that even with the shots I could still get and spread the bug, (edit- but the chances were lower and the bug wouldn't be as severe as without the shots). That corresponded to what I had seen locally. And I already knew that it was new and had some risk. As mentioned I decided it was best to get the shots. If you want to twist that so it fits your narrative then that's up to you, but it won't be true.
Believe it or not, not all countries play politics with public health. It's a shame that everything and I mean everything in the US is politicized.
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where were you?
 
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