Vaccine or not?

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joevol33 said:
Says who?, seriously? The same people that turned around and said, "oops we were wrong about those numbers in kid deaths", but you can believe us on this? They flat out lied, period, and some of you still believe anything they say. Watch the news, look around, the only people still getting it are up to their free car wash on their vaccine card. Literally see it here, Facebook, and the news, anybody testing positive is followed by "thankfully I'm vaccinated. Meanwhile, you don't see the unvaccinated posting anything about getting sick. Not trying to sound smart, but at some point, common sense has to kick in.
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That is 100% fact, no matter what you choose to believe.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Here’s a fact, during the delta variant surge this fall 93% of my healthcare system’s in-house COVID deaths were unvaccinated.
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How was "unvaccinated" defined? Could you have one jab of Maderna or Pfizer and be considered unvaccinated? Could you have both jabs but no booster and be called unvaccinated?
 
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0nelilreb said:
Anecdotal , when you can go around seeing opposite results in other systems .
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Oh, the delta variant in the fall of 2021 had 93% of deaths were vaccinated? I would be interested to see that if you could provide that information… otherwise you are just another one here is talking out of his @ss.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Oh, the delta variant in the fall of 2021 had 93% of deaths were vaccinated? I would be interested to see that if you could provide that information… otherwise you are just another one here is talking out of his @ss.
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I never said 93% were vaccinated in other systems , I said your post was anecdotal. ( reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite is it ) I want to see the link and how they determined ( specifically what method they used to come up with the %) . You made the claim I’m sure you have this info waiting to be posted . Now who’s actually talking out of their ass ? 😉
 
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0nelilreb said:
I never said 93% were vaccinated in other systems , I said your post was anecdotal. ( reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite is it ) I want to see the link and how they determined ( specifically what method they used to come up with the %) . You made the claim I’m sure you have this info waiting to be posted . Now who’s actually talking out of their ass ? 😉
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“Opposite results” is what you claimed. 93% being vaccinated would be the “opposite” of 93% unvaccinated. Also, mine is a cold, hard fact, not anecdote. Maybe it’s not me who struggles with understanding the English language.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm not calling you a liar, because I assume that there may be instances like you are describing. But I would say tht if true, your situation would be an outlier.
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It doesn’t seem like, based on this information from this fall, that it is an outlier at all.
Covid-19: Unvaccinated face 11 times risk of death from delta variant, CDC data show

Unvaccinated Individuals Are 11 Times More Likely to Die From Covid-19 | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

“The study examined cases of hospitalizations and deaths from Covid-19 over four months from April through July 2021. Over 600,0000 Covid-19 cases were evaluated based on vaccination status, CDC director Rochelle Walensky explained during a White House Covid-19 briefing. Between April 4 to June 19, unvaccinated individuals accounted for 95 percent of cases, 93 percent of hospitalizations, and 92 percent of deaths, reports Hilary Brueck and Natalie Musumeci for Insider. When looking at cases between June 20 and July 17 when the Delta variant became mainstream, unvaccinated people still accounted for 82 percent of cases, 86 percent of hospitalizations, and 84 percent of deaths.”
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How was "unvaccinated" defined? Could you have one jab of Maderna or Pfizer and be considered unvaccinated? Could you have both jabs but no booster and be called unvaccinated?
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I would love to see a statistic on how many people have died within 14 days of getting the shot. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one considered unvaccinated until 14 days after the vaccine is administered??
 
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OHvol40 said:
It doesn’t seem like, based on this information from this fall, that it is an outlier at all.
Covid-19: Unvaccinated face 11 times risk of death from delta variant, CDC data show

Unvaccinated Individuals Are 11 Times More Likely to Die From Covid-19 | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

“The study examined cases of hospitalizations and deaths from Covid-19 over four months from April through July 2021. Over 600,0000 Covid-19 cases were evaluated based on vaccination status, CDC director Rochelle Walensky explained during a White House Covid-19 briefing. Between April 4 to June 19, unvaccinated individuals accounted for 95 percent of cases, 93 percent of hospitalizations, and 92 percent of deaths, reports Hilary Brueck and Natalie Musumeci for Insider. When looking at cases between June 20 and July 17 when the Delta variant became mainstream, unvaccinated people still accounted for 82 percent of cases, 86 percent of hospitalizations, and 84 percent of deaths.”
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While this may have been true for the most part in the summer of 2021, this is now 2022. Many doctors have warned of weakened immune systems in those who are repeatedly jabbed. That's exactly what we are seeing happening at this very moment. Literally every person that I know or see that's getting Covid is vaccinated. I do not personally know a single unvaccinated person who has gotten covid in the past 3 or 4 months. The most bizarre thing is seeing all of these "protected" people who are getting covid saying how grateful they are for the "protection" the vaccine provides them. Its honestly quite comical.

The other thing I might mention is why do some of the countries that have the highest rates of vaccination also have the highest covid numbers. The current facts no longer support the argument that all need to be vaccinated.
 
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OHvol40 said:
“Opposite results” is what you claimed. 93% being vaccinated would be the “opposite” of 93% unvaccinated. Also, mine is a cold, hard fact, not anecdote. Maybe it’s not me who struggles with understanding the English language.
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Touché …let me correct my improper use of the English language…your 93% number is an outlier ( thanks Ras ) because it’s based purely on your experience AND we can go around the country looking at any other system to come up with different numbers . It’s a cute story though . Still waiting to see the link to your claim .
 
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OHvol40 said:
It doesn’t seem like, based on this information from this fall, that it is an outlier at all.
Covid-19: Unvaccinated face 11 times risk of death from delta variant, CDC data show

Unvaccinated Individuals Are 11 Times More Likely to Die From Covid-19 | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

“The study examined cases of hospitalizations and deaths from Covid-19 over four months from April through July 2021. Over 600,0000 Covid-19 cases were evaluated based on vaccination status, CDC director Rochelle Walensky explained during a White House Covid-19 briefing. Between April 4 to June 19, unvaccinated individuals accounted for 95 percent of cases, 93 percent of hospitalizations, and 92 percent of deaths, reports Hilary Brueck and Natalie Musumeci for Insider. When looking at cases between June 20 and July 17 when the Delta variant became mainstream, unvaccinated people still accounted for 82 percent of cases, 86 percent of hospitalizations, and 84 percent of deaths.”
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So you're going to post links that literally say "risk", and "likely " to prove facts? You're welcome to believe whatever yourself, but I'm telling you the facts we all see here, the news, social media, and in our lives.
 
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High number of Strokes caused by the Covid-19 Injections may explain why so many of the Vaccinated are also going Blind

“Around one-third of stroke survivors suffer visual loss, and most sadly never fully recover their vision. With so many strokes being reported as adverse reactions to the Covid jabs this could explain why so many people have reportedly gone blind as well“

High number of Strokes caused by the Covid-19 Vaccines may explain why so many of the Vaccinated are also going Blind
 
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joevol33 said:
So you're going to post links that literally say "risk", and "likely " to prove facts? You're welcome to believe whatever yourself, but I'm telling you the facts we all see here, the news, social media, and in our lives.
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It’s a fact that once the delta surge was winding down heading into this winter that the tally of COVID deceased within my healthcare system (hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, LTACs, nursing homes, etc.) stood at 93% were unvaccinated. I also experienced this anecdotally. I intubated many of our ICU COVID + patients, and of the dozens that I did, I can only recall 2 that were vaccinated.
 
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Just had another long discussion with the pharmacist at a large local retail store. He has never heard of Comirnaty, and they have been administering the BioNTech EUA product without having patients sign waivers.

This is the strangest phenomenon I can ever recall in medicine. If the right attorneys got hold of the situation, there could be a monumental case.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Just had another long discussion with the pharmacist at a large local retail store. He has never heard of Comirnaty, and they have been administering the BioNTech EUA product without having patients sign waivers.

This is the strangest phenomenon I can ever recall in medicine. If the right attorneys got hold of the situation, there could be a monumental case.
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@RockyTop85 i smell $$$
 
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OHvol40 said:
It’s a fact that once the delta surge was winding down heading into this winter that the tally of COVID deceased within my healthcare system (hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, LTACs, nursing homes, etc.) stood at 93% were unvaccinated. I also experienced this anecdotally. I intubated many of our ICU COVID + patients, and of the dozens that I did, I can only recall 2 that were vaccinated.
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I don't know what to tell you, I guess we're all seeing different things. I know for a fact around here, ain't nobody getting it, except a few who were vaccinated. Soon as companies stopped paying for time off for covid, wasn't hardly anyone sick anymore. The company I work for has about 100+ employees, and I can count on one hand the number that's been out of work with corona this year, and they were all vaccinated.
 
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