Vaccine or not?

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allvol123 said:
I watched the Wimbledon final yesterday and just realized you had to be vaccinated to enter the US if you are a foreigner. Un Fu****** believable. I didn’t realize it because I have stopped paying attention to all this nonsense.

But this is literally stupid as f. Truly, you can enter the southern border illegally carrying any disease, weapons, etc. be a rapist, murderer or whatever.

But we can’t let foreigners who just want to do business in the US come here if they aren’t vaccinated for Covid.
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Not to mention that he's already had CV19.
 
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I haven't heard of this symptom before

Covid Vaccines Can Make You Go Bald - Connecticut Centinal

This week alone, we heard three different accounts of people who developed alopecia, an autoimmune condition, after getting a covid shot.

A particularly sad story came from a friend whose neighbor vaccinated her teenage son. His hair has been falling out in clumps since being vaccinated. He developed bald spots all over his head, along with thinning patches of hair. His head is 95% bald, and now he’s losing his eyebrows and eyelashes, along with all of the confidence he had since so many people stare at him in shock at his hairless appearance.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I haven't heard of this symptom before

Covid Vaccines Can Make You Go Bald - Connecticut Centinal

This week alone, we heard three different accounts of people who developed alopecia, an autoimmune condition, after getting a covid shot.

A particularly sad story came from a friend whose neighbor vaccinated her teenage son. His hair has been falling out in clumps since being vaccinated. He developed bald spots all over his head, along with thinning patches of hair. His head is 95% bald, and now he’s losing his eyebrows and eyelashes, along with all of the confidence he had since so many people stare at him in shock at his hairless appearance.
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Autoimmune is the body attacking itself. It can do it in many ways.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I haven't heard of this symptom before

Covid Vaccines Can Make You Go Bald - Connecticut Centinal

This week alone, we heard three different accounts of people who developed alopecia, an autoimmune condition, after getting a covid shot.

A particularly sad story came from a friend whose neighbor vaccinated her teenage son. His hair has been falling out in clumps since being vaccinated. He developed bald spots all over his head, along with thinning patches of hair. His head is 95% bald, and now he’s losing his eyebrows and eyelashes, along with all of the confidence he had since so many people stare at him in shock at his hairless appearance.
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I know of 2 guys that have lost patches of hair since they had the vaccine last year. 1 of them had their hair come out in clumps and the other one has 3 golf ball sized bald spots in random places on his head. They both had the vaccine early last year and both lost hair within a couple of weeks of the 2nd shot.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
I know of 2 guys that have lost patches of hair since they had the vaccine last year. 1 of them had their hair come out in clumps and the other one has 3 golf ball sized bald spots in random places on his head. They both had the vaccine early last year and both lost hair within a couple of weeks of the 2nd shot.
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Nothing against bald guys but that in itself would settle it for me.
 
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Just came by to say, ITS NOT A VACCINE. IT IS A THERAPEUTIC SHOT.

Calling it a vaccine at this point is ignorant. And anyone pushing/mandating the original shot has no clue about virus mutation or they are doing it for another agenda.

Where are all the vaccine lovers now? Have they abandoned this thread to go all in on another silly cause?
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Just came by to say, ITS NOT A VACCINE. IT IS A THERAPEUTIC SHOT.

Calling it a vaccine at this point is ignorant. And anyone pushing/mandating the original shot has no clue about virus mutation or they are doing it for another agenda.

Where are all the vaccine lovers now? Have they abandoned this thread to go all in on another silly cause?
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Mad4Vax is still going strong in the Coronavirus no politics thread in the Pub.
 
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Wait... this cannot be China's first crack at a vaccine mandate.

Beijing Scraps China's First COVID Vaccine Mandate In Just 48 Hours After Furious Social Response | ZeroHedge

The policy, announced Wednesday and intended to come into effect on July 11, would have limited entry to public venues such as cinemas, museums, and theaters to only vaccinated people, and required workers in certain professions to get booster shots.

“The reversal shows the power of public opinions,” Hu Xijin, former editor-in-chief at the Communist Party-backed Global Times and an influential commentator, said on his official Weibo account. “The Chinese society is dominated by government. They timely backed up in the face of a public pushback. That means they accept the public’s view of the vaccine mandate as illegal.”
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I might need that booster after all....


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‘We Are Going to Get Justice’: Families Unite to Call Out Questionable Hospital Protocols That Led to Deaths 'We Are Going to Get Justice': Families Unite to Call Out Questionable Hospital Protocols That Led to Deaths

The details in the stories of the families whose loved ones died in the hospital because of what they call “death protocols” are strikingly similar.

The patients were all scorned because of their unvaccinated status and were given a combination of sedatives and the antiviral drug remdesivir. They were also kept isolated, malnourished, and ultimately put on a ventilator before dying.

After the deaths of their loved ones, the families were left in confusion and with inconceivable stories that many don’t believe—stories of chilling administrative cruelty.

The FormerFedsGroup Freedom Foundation (FFFF) has gathered about 200 of these stories through its COVID-19 Humanity Betrayal Memory Project to build an online database of testimonies for the purpose of surveying accounts of treatment for the sick unvaccinated and prosecuting any cases involving alleged abuse.

Many of these hospital deaths occurred in 2021, after COVID-19 vaccine mandates were announced by President Joe Biden.

In some cases, people who didn’t want to take the experimental vaccine were being fired from their jobs, while unvaccinated patients in hospitals were being treated much differently than their vaccinated counterparts.

The phrase “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” was used by public officials to place blame on those who chose to not take vaccines that later proved to not be as safe and effective as touted.
 
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‘We Are Going to Get Justice’: Families Unite to Call Out Questionable Hospital Protocols That Led to Deaths 'We Are Going to Get Justice': Families Unite to Call Out Questionable Hospital Protocols That Led to Deaths

The details in the stories of the families whose loved ones died in the hospital because of what they call “death protocols” are strikingly similar.

The patients were all scorned because of their unvaccinated status and were given a combination of sedatives and the antiviral drug remdesivir. They were also kept isolated, malnourished, and ultimately put on a ventilator before dying.

After the deaths of their loved ones, the families were left in confusion and with inconceivable stories that many don’t believe—stories of chilling administrative cruelty.

The FormerFedsGroup Freedom Foundation (FFFF) has gathered about 200 of these stories through its COVID-19 Humanity Betrayal Memory Project to build an online database of testimonies for the purpose of surveying accounts of treatment for the sick unvaccinated and prosecuting any cases involving alleged abuse.

Many of these hospital deaths occurred in 2021, after COVID-19 vaccine mandates were announced by President Joe Biden.

In some cases, people who didn’t want to take the experimental vaccine were being fired from their jobs, while unvaccinated patients in hospitals were being treated much differently than their vaccinated counterparts.

The phrase “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” was used by public officials to place blame on those who chose to not take vaccines that later proved to not be as safe and effective as touted.
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Good lord this “article” is so FOS with obvious lies and exaggerations.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Good lord this “article” is so FOS with obvious lies and exaggerations.
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What exactly do you classify as lies? I personally know people with stories similar to this. My wife and I have a friend who lost a sister in a story that sounds very similar to what is said in this article. Their experience was the doctors entire attitude changed when they found out her sister was unvaccinated. She was immediately given Remdeziver and then isolated in a room and had no contact with her family. The family asked for her to be released so they could get her to a doctor that would actually provide treatment (other then remdesiver and the ventilator) and the hospital refused to release her. They got legal help and they notified the hospital that they would be coming to pick her up the following morning. Approximately 3 hours after they placed this phone call the hospital called and informed them that her oxygen levels had dropped dramatically and they were putting her on a ventilator. She died 3 hours later.
 
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Whilst You Were Distracted by Boris Resigning the UK Gov. Published a Report Confirming Fully Vaccinated Children Are 13,633% More Likely to Die of COVID Than Unvaccinated Children


“…a death rate of 3.2 among the partly vaccinated, and a death rate of 41.2 per 100k among the triple vaccinated, compared to just 0.3 per 100k among the unvaccinated.”


Whilst you were distracted by Boris resigning the UK Gov. published a report confirming Fully Vaccinated Children are 13,633% more likely to die of COVID than Unvaccinated ChildrenIMG_20220714_064709_731.jpg
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Care to point out the "obvious lies".
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The article is written by yet another conspiracy nutjob source first of all...

2nd, here is the long list of BS in the article:

What is the purpose of sedating patients with 15 different drugs, including fentanyl, and withholding food and water while keeping them isolated from their families?” Geyer said. - A trial lawyer attempting to get $ commenting on a general strawman of something he has no understanding or proof of, for emotional support (a La Black lives matter "hands up don't shoot" type BS)

There’s also the “COVID Cocktail” that’s set before every patient, Blakeman said, which she called a kidney-failing concoction of remdesivir, vancomycin, and dexamethasone. “They scare these people to death through emotional and psychological abuse,” Blakeman said. “We had a victim whose husband literally had to break her out, with cops chasing them down the hallway to their getaway car. They are treated worse than prisoners.” - The EPOCH TIMES MEDIA director trying to comment on something she has no clue or understanding or expertise about, let alone the actual use of these drugs. Then follows it up with some asisine statement about "emotional/psychological" abuse. I am also calling out her BS story on "cops chasing them to a getaway car". LOL it's laughable

“When the pandemic started, the NIH [National Institutes of Health], the FDA [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] handed down protocols for hospitals to follow in treating COVID patients,” she said. “Never before in the history of our country did a three-letter agency dictate to the doctor what the standard of care for a patient was going to be.” - This Facebook Karen's statement is ridiculous and false. the "three letter agencies' suggest or force hospital protocols all the time, for various things in various ways...more ignorance of reality

Previously, individual treatment had been left up to the physician and was an open discussion between the physician and the patient, according to Crum. “But now, all of that has been thrown out the window,” she said. “My 58-year-old husband in Washington received the exact same treatment as a 40-year-old woman in Florida who had none of the same health issues that my husband had.” - BS again, it's STILL up to the attending physician to decide the best course of treatment for the patient based on their opinion. Always has been.. ALways will be...and no she didnt see some 40 year old woman's medical chart in Florida or even understand it.

Before he died, one doctor had attempted to coerce Crum into agreeing to change his classification to “Do Not Resuscitate,” she said.
“I kept refusing, and finally, at the end of our conversation, she was so mad, she told me, ‘Fine, if you won’t change him to DNR when your husband goes into cardiac arrest, I’ll refuse to give him chest compressions,’” she said. Crum had a private autopsy and toxicology report done that listed medical conditions that caused his death other than COVID-19: a 90 percent blockage in the main artery of his heart that went untreated throughout his 16-day stay at the hospital and a lethal dose of fentanyl. The protocols make the patients like her husband sicker and lead to death while reaping high financial incentives from the federal government through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act and the American Rescue Plan supplemental funding to hospitals, she said. Hospitals get reimbursed for admitting or having a patient test positive for COVID-19, which is why there are reports such as Crum’s in which staff will continue to test a patient for the virus, even if they weren’t admitted with a positive test. She said hospitals get reimbursed for using remdesivir, putting a patient on a ventilator, and having a patient die with COVID-19 listed on the death certificate. - so much BS here, its hard to unpack it all, first of all, I don't believe her BS about the doctor threatening to let the patient die, the state and Joint Commission would be able to investigate that and the fact she never made a complaint tells me it didnt happen. Then she said the hospital gave him a "lethal" dose of fentanyl which again if that happened would be a state reportable and easily found mistake, so that's definitely a made-up lie. THEN she claims the hospital gets "reimbursed" for admitting, claiming, diagnosing and testing someone for COVID and on the death certificate (which has nothing to do with the hospital) AND gets reimbursement for using Remdsivir. ALL OF THOSE ARE COMPLETELY MADE UP LIES BY THE ALEX JONES CROWD.


The laws are structured in a way that incentivizes hospitals to kill people,” he said. “The hospital makes more money if you die from COVID-19 than if you recover from it. Why don’t we incentivize hospitals for getting people cured of COVID?” - Another trial lawyer with a direct made up lie

Texas state Sen. Bob Hall alluded to stories such as the ones collected by the FFFF when he said, “Never before have we seen the government step between the patient and the doctor and usurp that doctor’s right to exercise their conscience, their training, and what they know that patient needed.” - HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA tell me you don't understand healthcare without telling me you don't understand healthcare...and the physicians make the decisions on treatment, the ones you want to execute in the street because you are too dumb to understand them

she encountered rabid discrimination because of Phillip’s unvaccinated status, she said.
“When I tried to drop off some food, one nurse yelled at me, telling me that because he was unvaccinated, he was going to die and that he’s not going to be eating or drinking for the rest of the time he’s here,” Wines said.
Initially, Phillip was going to be kept for observation; however, after he denied vaccination, she said he was put on morphine overnight, which she said increases respiratory distress. “The next morning, he’s getting sent to ICU and labeled ‘imminent death,’” Wines said. “A couple of days later, they start giving him precedex, which is a strong sedative, and remdesivir.” After one dose of remdesivir, Phillip went into complete liver failure, she said. Wines’s questioning of the protocols eventually got her banned from calling the hospital, she said, and she could no longer speak with Phillip, so she relied on Phillips’s mother, Pam, as power of attorney. While Phillip was on the ventilator for 15 days, Wines said he had lost 86 pounds. “I would say 75 percent of the nurses were just nasty,” she said. “Every single doctor was nasty. We had doctors laugh at us. They told us it was his fault because he was not vaccinated.” Wines and Phillip’s mother, Pam, were with Phillip the day he died, but had left two hours earlier, according to Wines. “I worked in hospice; I know what end-of-life looks like,” she said. “There’s no way we would have left had I thought he was going to pass. I find it interesting that two hours after we left, he passed.” - More BS...made up crap. Sounds like Karen was mad she couldnt drop off fast food to her 300lb sick husband, no nurse or doctor said that crap to her especially "he won't be eating or drinking for the rest of the time he's here", and no one laughed at her. The fact she wasn't the next of kin or POA and his mother was says a lot. And she "knows what end of life looks like" but didnt know he was going to pass, even though they told the family that for at least 2-3 days? please


These conspiracy websites and youtube channels sure do sucker in some of you all bad. Playing on emotions and illogical thinking to support something you hope is true because of your political leanings...It's as dumb as people lapping up what the MSM says as gospel every time too.
 
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