Vaccine or not?

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kiddiedoc said:
I've said that all along.

The normal process for development, trials, testing, and clinical observation before a vaccine is approved normally takes at least 5-10 years.
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Absolutely and we are starting to see some of the effects of not having the data.
 
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Majors said:
Absolutely and we are starting to see some of the effects of not having the data.
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I take one issue with this statement.

Since the general population was the trial run, we are in fact getting data. And the data quite literally proves the shots did not work in the best of cases and have done irreparable damage in many.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I take one issue with this statement.

Since the general population was the trial run, we are in fact getting data. And the data quite literally proves the shots did not work in the best of cases and have done irreparable damage in many.
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Agree. I'm just pointing that the short and long term data was not available when the world was told/mandated to get the vaccine. We have theoretically the short term data now.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I believe the vaccines did something for the variants prior to Omicron. That still doesn't mean they were safe. And that's what we're now finding out (or rather that's what we're allowed to finally admit what we already knew for the last year).
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It is also possible that the mRNA shots were actually a driving force towards mutations/ natural selection of new variants.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Very true. Dr. Robert Malone mentioned that distinct possibility early on.
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It doesn't work exactly the same, but suboptimal immunity induced by spike-only antigen could function similarly to inappropriate or incomplete antibiotic treatment of bacterial infections. Mutations happen naturally, and advantageous ones (those that evade immunity -- or antibiotic efficacy) are selected and propagated.
 
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Jean Lassalle, a former French presidential candidate and long-time politician, alleged that the Johnson and Johnson Covid-19 vaccine almost killed him and, more shockingly, that Macron and most of the French govt, as well as Vladimir Putin, have never been vaccinated for Covid-19. Each seemingly were injected in a campaign to "push everyone to get vaccinated."

In the EXTENDED VERSION OF THIS CLIP (see link below), Lassalle says that though the death penalty has been removed from France, a more insidious agenda exists, "Well, we don't have it any more, but we still make you die in other ways."

LINK TO EXTENDED CLIP: J&J Shot “Almost Killed Me,” Says French Politician, Macron & Most of Govt Not Vaccinated – Bright Light News
 
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VolinWayne said:
Jean Lassalle, a former French presidential candidate and long-time politician, alleged that the Johnson and Johnson Covid-19 vaccine almost killed him and, more shockingly, that Macron and most of the French govt, as well as Vladimir Putin, have never been vaccinated for Covid-19. Each seemingly were injected in a campaign to "push everyone to get vaccinated."

In the EXTENDED VERSION OF THIS CLIP (see link below), Lassalle says that though the death penalty has been removed from France, a more insidious agenda exists, "Well, we don't have it any more, but we still make you die in other ways."

LINK TO EXTENDED CLIP: J&J Shot “Almost Killed Me,” Says French Politician, Macron & Most of Govt Not Vaccinated – Bright Light News
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He seems to have made quite the recovery from his brush with "death"
 
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evillawyer said:
https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion...ueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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So the headline is "Florida surgeon general’s COVID vaccine ‘study’ is politics dressed up as science"

How exactly is this politics??? Science has always been backed by years and years of studies and tests. Does this vaccine fit that bill?? Science isn't supposed to change. All we heard for 2 years was "if you get the vaccine you won't get or spread covid". We now all know that was a lie. Why is it that some of the most vaccinated countries now have the highest excess mortality rate?
 
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HHS and CDC paid comedians and screen writers to mock the unvaccinated

"These documents confirm what many of us have long suspected: That HHS and CDC paid stand-up comedians to mock the unvaccinated in their comedy routines. Screen writers and production companies were also bribed to push vaccine propaganda in their episodes, and social media influencers were paid off to pimp the untested jabs.
Part of the Covid-19 stimulus push included a cool $1 billion to the CDC for propaganda payoffs and bribes. They used this money to flood tech platforms, Hollywood writers and influencers with dark money, and in return they had to sell their soul by promoting the mRNA jabs.

Hollywood has always been in on the depopulation agenda

This was all taxpayer money, used to brainwash Americans with a monstrous, coordinated vaccine propaganda campaign coordinated by HHS and the CDC.
At the same time, Big Tech targeted anyone who disagreed with the propaganda, banning them from platforms and destroying their reputations. All because they dared to take a stand against the propaganda.
The media was in on it the whole time, of course, and they refuse to report on this bombshell HHS document even now. They’ve been complicit the entire time."


Biden's HHS and CDC Paid Screen Writers and Comedians To Mock the Unvaccinated - News Punch
 
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ButchPlz said:
I take one issue with this statement.

Since the general population was the trial run, we are in fact getting data. And the data quite literally proves the shots did not work in the best of cases and have done irreparable damage in many.
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The mandates for the jab would've helped to hide some of the data because there wouldn't have been a control group.
 
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