Vaccine or not?

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#22,932
Orangeslice13 said:
this deserves an answer
I don’t believe any Dr would use this case in any way to make a decision for their patients one way or the other.
That’s what I meant.
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Of course not. I have reviewed the entire Pfizer EUA submission, know details of hospital admissions/severity, remain in open discussion with area providers, and have cared for around 2,000 kids with CV19. This story doesn't even tick the needle for me. I just find it ironic and curious.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm curious what the infection rate was in non- vaccinated, those receiving two doses, and those with prior infection.
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Well, I'm currently on COVID case #3 for 2022. 2 shots, no booster.

Son had case #3 last week. 1 shot.

Daughter is on case #3 for 2022 now. No shots. This case has dragged on a little more than the others.

Spouse had it twice in 2022. 2 doses plus 1 booster. She's been out of town this week so she didn't catch. She struggled a bit in June but she's got significant pre-existing conditions.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Anyone buying what this study is saying?

Studies: 3 or 4 COVID vaccine doses protective against Omicron
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These studies don’t really show anything more than an up-regulated immune system in the near term after vaccination. Unless I’m mistaken, they only followed people for 4 weeks after whatever latest booster dose they got and compared them to a group that didn’t get boosted.

The vaccines definitely create an acute antibody response to Covid. So it makes absolute sense that if you study people who got the shot for the four immediate weeks after, they absolutely should show lower infection rates. But what happens at 6 weeks? Or 6 months? Well, efficacy weans down to equal of any or no other doses. That’s why there are “boosters.” There no significant long term effectiveness to these shots.

In addition, at least two of those studies added that there were no serious illness or deaths in EITHER group. So, we’re basically just studying the chance of testing positive after a vaccine dose, not any clinically significant illness.

So, if it only decreases the chance of testing positive, and only does so for a short period of time, and doesn’t actually offer an advantage anymore in disease severity or death, then I’m not really sure what we’re even talking about.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
What does that have to do with anything I posted.
I’m calling you out for being every bit as dishonest as they are.
You being dishonest in this case doesn’t make them honest in any way.
Just like the vaccine and the death of the fitness guru. The two things are not related
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What exactly am I being dishonest about? Am I not entitled to have and share my own opinion? You are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. It would be nice if you did the same. The fact is nobody knows exactly what was the cause of his death. Until that is released then of course you will have people making assumptions one way or another. Can you remind me again of the years of testing they did on the MRNA vaccines that prove that there are no long-term adverse reactions? I guess maybe you can possibly get back to me on that in 5-10 years from now. It is now a known fact that side affects of the vaccine include myocarditis and blood clots. Why is it evil to have this discussion when this is a known fact? We should all want answers. Especially after he literally posted that he wanted people to use him as a test.
 
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VolinWayne said:
What exactly am I being dishonest about? Am I not entitled to have and share my own opinion? You are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. It would be nice if you did the same. The fact is nobody knows exactly what was the cause of his death. Until that is released then of course you will have people making assumptions one way or another. Can you remind me again of the years of testing they did on the MRNA vaccines that prove that there are no long-term adverse reactions? I guess maybe you can possibly get back to me on that in 5-10 years from now. It is now a known fact that side affects of the vaccine include myocarditis and blood clots. Why is it evil to have this discussion when this is a known fact? We should all want answers. Especially after he literally posted that he wanted people to use him as a test.
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Trying to move the goalposts isn’t helping your case.
You and your tribe presented this example in a way that’s blatantly untrue. You’d make a wonderful pharmaceutical company employee.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Take your pick, a vaccine or a ventilator
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Here is a classy statement.

Now after all the data and numbers have shaken out you were so on the wrong side of most things Covid.

I have spent some time reading some of the crap that you have posted in these threads. It laughable how incorrect you were. It’s too much to copy and paste.

I know you are unable to admit you are wrong and you will double down. But it is there for anyone to view. You were wrong. Still wrong. And continue to be wrong. Congratulations.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Here is a classy statement.

Now after all the data and numbers have shaken out you were so on the wrong side of most things Covid.

I have spent some time reading some of the crap that you have posted in these threads. It laughable how incorrect you were. It’s too much to copy and paste. But my gosh the idiocy of this garbage should make you feel embarrassed.

I know you are unable to admit you are wrong and you will double down. But it is there for anyone to view. You were wrong. Still wrong. And continue to be wrong. Congratulations.
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Ok so nobody in the US needed a ventilator right?? Take care of your issues and get a life.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Ok so nobody in the US needed a ventilator right?? Take care of your issues and get a life.
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Like I said. You were on the wrong side of this and won’t/can’t admit it. You posted garbage for over a year that you thought was true. It wasn’t. And now you look rather dumb.

I’m just the guy on here calling out your BS. Like I said earlier, just own it. Folks would respect you more if you could admit you were wrong.
 
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