Vaccine or not?

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utvolpj said:
I'm sure that was the only needle he's seen all year

You know that guy was putting all kinds of gear in his body
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Such a sad story......You are probably correct but look at his tweet. He literally said "Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test. If I die, you were right. If I don't die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves)." I think we should honor his request.

Bodybuilder And Author Doug Brignole Dies Months After Getting Covid Vaccine And Claiming He Was "A Test" Of Its Safety

 
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VolinWayne said:
Such a sad story......You are probably correct but look at his tweet. He literally said "Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test. If I die, you were right. If I don't die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves)." I think we should honor his request.

Bodybuilder And Author Doug Brignole Dies Months After Getting Covid Vaccine And Claiming He Was "A Test" Of Its Safety

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He died 6 months later from an issue not on the list of side effects.
This kinda misrepresentation is just plain evil.
 
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Truth : No Evidence Doug Brignole Died From Vaccine Sudden Death!
It’s now a tradition for anti-vaccination activists to immediately blame all celebrity deaths or illnesses on the COVID-19 vaccine.
This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS created and propagated by anti-vaccination activists, and here are the reasons why, and what we know so far…
Fact #1 : Doug Brignole’s Cause Of Death Is Unknown
Doug Brignole (born December 15, 1959) passed away on Thursday, October 13, 2022 – at 62 years of age, just two months shy of his 63rd birthday.
At that time, he was getting ready to make a special appearance at the AAU Mr Universe contest in Las Vegas, on October 22.
His cause of death was not announced and is currently unknown, although unverified social media rumours claim that he died of a heart attack.
Just because his cause of death is unknown does not give anyone the right to falsely claim that he died suddenly from vaccine SADS / VIDS.
He could have died of anything from a heart attack (as rumoured) to a car accident, or a fall, or a myriad other causes of death.
Until his official cause of death is revealed, anyone who tells you that Doug Brignole died of this or that cause is LYING to you!
Read more : Robbie Coltrane : New Victim Of Vaccine Death Claim!
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Fact #2 : Doug Brignole Was Fully Vaccinated
As a fitness and bodybuilding guru, Doug Brignole was very particular about his health. He read up on the COVID-19 vaccines, and was firmly behind the science.
In fact, he posted in April 5, 2021, that he just received his COVID-19 vaccine and that everyone should use him as a “test”, to see if the vaccine was safe or dangerous.
I’m vaccinated ! Well, the first of two. Let’s get this done so we can get back to traveling, going to concerts, and having fun.
My vaccine was yesterday, and I had no problem with it. My deltoid was a bit sore, but otherwise fine. We’re all in this together, so let’s do our share to beat it.
I have enough confidence in the vaccine, based on my research, to get it done. Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test.
If I die, you were right. If I don’t die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves).
Better yet, you should admit to the world who misled you, so other people can benefit by avoiding those fear mongers.
Doug Brignole did not suffer any significant side effects, or die from his COVID-19 vaccination that he took in April 2021.
The very fact that he was fit and getting ready for a special Mr Universe appearance proves that the vaccine had no deleterious effect on his fitness or health.
Read more : Can 4th Vaccine Jab Shut Down Our Immune System?!
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Fact #3 : COVID-19 Vaccines Cannot Prevent Other Causes Of Death
COVID-19 vaccines are designed to protect us against severe illness and death from COVID-19, by teaching our own immune system how to create antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
They, however, cannot protect us against other causes of death, whether it’s a heart attack, SADS or even other viruses. Hence, fully-vaccinated people can and will die from other causes of death.
It is therefore ludicrous for anti-vaccination activists to blame all deaths of fully-vaccinated people on the vaccine. Did they really expect the COVID-19 vaccine to be an elixir of immortality? Please grow up.
Fact #4 : Vaccine Side Effects Appear Within Hours / Days
Doug Brignole was fully-vaccinated against COVID-19 more than 18 months ago. That’s 1.5 years ago.
He cannot possibly have died from a vaccine side effect, because they appear within hours or days, not many months later.
Mild side effects like injection site pain, fever, muscle ache, headache, lethargy develop within minutes to hours of the vaccination.
Anaphylaxis develops within minutes, while other severe adverse reactions like myocarditis and VITT develop within days.
The spike proteins produced by the COVID-19 vaccines also do not stick around for months. If these spike proteins are permanent (as antivaxxers claim), we would have lifelong immunity.
Your own immune system will identify the spike proteins as foreign, and destroy them within a matter of days, although some may last for up to a few weeks. This is part of how vaccines teach your immune system to identify the enemy and destroy it.
Read more : Do mRNA Vaccines Cause Invasion of Killer Lymphocytes?!
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Fact #5 : SADS Is An Inherited Heart Condition
It is ludicrous to claim that COVID-19 vaccines cause sudden arrhythmic death syndrome (SADS), because SADS was first documented in 1977 – long before COVID-19 vaccines were invented!
Despite what anti-vaccination activists may tell you – SADS is not a new vaccine-related syndrome.
SADS is an inherited problem with your heart’s electrical system, which produces an abnormal heart rhythm that leads to a cardiac arrest. That’s why it can be prevented by implanting a cardioverter-defribillator.
SADS also occurs at a rate of 0.12 to 0.21 per 100,000 people every single year. In other words, approximately 9,000 to 16,000 people die from SADS every single year, before the COVID-19 vaccines were invented.
The UK Office for National Statistics data on Sudden Adult Deaths from 2016 to 2020 also showed NO INCREASE in SADS cases, demonstrating that COVID-19 vaccines did not increase the prevalence of SADS.
Note : There is no 2021 data until sometime in December 2022. The 2020 data was only released on 22 December 2021.
Vaccination in the United Kingdom started on 8 December 2020, with over a million doses administered by end of the month. Despite (false) claims that the vaccines cause SADS, that did not result in an increase in SADS cases.
YearsSudden Adult Death
Syndrome Cases20161162017632018532019872020115
Fact #6 : Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome Does Not Exist
After social media filters started clamping down on SADS, anti-vaccination activists have coined a new term – Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome (VIDS or VDS).
There is no such thing as Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome. It is simply a term they made up to blame every sudden death on the COVID-19 vaccine.
Despite what anti-vaccination activists claim, COVID-19 vaccines do not cause people to suddenly die.
Read more : Robert Cormier : Cause of Death NOT Vaccine SADS!
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Fact #7 : Deaths / Injuries From COVID-19 Vaccines Can Be Proven
Despite anti-vaccination activists chalking up celebrity deaths to the vaccine; death or injury from rare vaccine adverse effects like anaphylaxis, myocarditis and VITT can be proven.
Anaphylaxis (severe allergic reaction) from Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines happens within minutes. That’s why people are asked to wait for 15-30 minutes after getting the vaccine. People who get an anaphylactic shock will require an epinephrine shot to quickly relieve it.
Vaccine-induced myocarditis has distinct histopathology findings that are different from typical myocarditis, so a pathologist will be able to determine if the myocarditis was caused by the vaccines or otherwise.
Vaccine-induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia (VITT) is very specific to the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. It is also easily differentiated by its unique combination of blood clots in large veins of the brains, abdomen and lungs, together with low platelet counts leading to bleeding tendencies.
Fact #8 : Claims Of Athletes Dying From COVID-19 Vaccine Proven False
This is yet another example of anti-vaccination activists abusing athlete deaths / injuries to create and propagate FAKE NEWS about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.
So far, claims of athlete deaths / injuries due to the COVID-19 vaccine have been proven false at every instance.
Will these anti-vaccination activists apologise for lying to you? Nope! They will just move on to the next athlete tragedy…
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Orangeslice13 said:
He died 6 months later from an issue not on the list of side effects.
This kinda misrepresentation is just plain evil.
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He literally asked that we use him as a test. While this is a very sad story the fact is he died. While I do agree that we do not know if he died as a direct result of the vaccine I think it's evil to not have an open mind and ask the question if he actually did die as a direct result of the vaccine. It's not normal for healthy people to "suddenly die". Just start paying attention to how many of these "sudden deaths" are happening in vaccinated people compared to how many are happening in the unvaccinated. Why is it evil to have this discussion when that's exactly what he asked for?
 
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95 Percent of Corpses Had Received COVID Vaccination Within 2 Weeks of Death: Funeral Director 95 Percent of Corpses Had Received COVID Vaccination Within 2 Weeks of Death: Funeral Director

A funeral director from New Zealand says that 95 percent of the corpses he has been seeing had received a COVID-19 vaccine within two weeks of their passing away.

“Ninety-five percent of the people who have passed away through the work that I’ve done have been vaccinated within two weeks,” Brenton Faithfull said.

Faithfull has been working as a funeral director for the last 41 years and has been running his own mortuary business for the last 26 years. He recently spoke out about the apparent relationship between the COVID-19 vaccines and the deaths he has been observing.

“It’s very obvious, they die within two weeks of receiving the vaccination, a lot of them … almost appear to have died from anaphylaxis, almost a reaction straight away to the booster.”
 
#22,883
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VolinWayne said:
He literally asked that we use him as a test. The fact is he died. While I do agree that we do not know if he died as a direct result of the vaccine I think it's evil to not have an open mind and ask the question if he actually did die as a direct result of the vaccine. It's not normal for healthy people to "suddenly die". Just start paying attention to how many of these "sudden deaths" are happening in vaccinated people compared to how many are happening in the unvaccinated. Why is it evil to have this discussion when that's exactly what he asked for?
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This is just plain stupid.
It’s dishonest at best and evil at worst.
It’s the same as the climate change people faking their data.
It actually discredits your side of the argument. If you will lie in your presentation of this data how can you be trusted in anything else you post.
He died from something that absolutely nobody has said is a side effect of the vaccine. It’s not related in any way. If he died in a car wreck it would have been just as unrelated.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Truth : No Evidence Doug Brignole Died From Vaccine Sudden Death!
It’s now a tradition for anti-vaccination activists to immediately blame all celebrity deaths or illnesses on the COVID-19 vaccine.
This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS created and propagated by anti-vaccination activists, and here are the reasons why, and what we know so far…
Fact #1 : Doug Brignole’s Cause Of Death Is Unknown
Doug Brignole (born December 15, 1959) passed away on Thursday, October 13, 2022 – at 62 years of age, just two months shy of his 63rd birthday.
At that time, he was getting ready to make a special appearance at the AAU Mr Universe contest in Las Vegas, on October 22.
His cause of death was not announced and is currently unknown, although unverified social media rumours claim that he died of a heart attack.
Just because his cause of death is unknown does not give anyone the right to falsely claim that he died suddenly from vaccine SADS / VIDS.
He could have died of anything from a heart attack (as rumoured) to a car accident, or a fall, or a myriad other causes of death.
Until his official cause of death is revealed, anyone who tells you that Doug Brignole died of this or that cause is LYING to you!
Read more : Robbie Coltrane : New Victim Of Vaccine Death Claim!
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Fact #2 : Doug Brignole Was Fully Vaccinated
As a fitness and bodybuilding guru, Doug Brignole was very particular about his health. He read up on the COVID-19 vaccines, and was firmly behind the science.
In fact, he posted in April 5, 2021, that he just received his COVID-19 vaccine and that everyone should use him as a “test”, to see if the vaccine was safe or dangerous.
I’m vaccinated ! Well, the first of two. Let’s get this done so we can get back to traveling, going to concerts, and having fun.
My vaccine was yesterday, and I had no problem with it. My deltoid was a bit sore, but otherwise fine. We’re all in this together, so let’s do our share to beat it.
I have enough confidence in the vaccine, based on my research, to get it done. Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test.
If I die, you were right. If I don’t die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves).
Better yet, you should admit to the world who misled you, so other people can benefit by avoiding those fear mongers.
Doug Brignole did not suffer any significant side effects, or die from his COVID-19 vaccination that he took in April 2021.
The very fact that he was fit and getting ready for a special Mr Universe appearance proves that the vaccine had no deleterious effect on his fitness or health.
Read more : Can 4th Vaccine Jab Shut Down Our Immune System?!
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Fact #3 : COVID-19 Vaccines Cannot Prevent Other Causes Of Death
COVID-19 vaccines are designed to protect us against severe illness and death from COVID-19, by teaching our own immune system how to create antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
They, however, cannot protect us against other causes of death, whether it’s a heart attack, SADS or even other viruses. Hence, fully-vaccinated people can and will die from other causes of death.
It is therefore ludicrous for anti-vaccination activists to blame all deaths of fully-vaccinated people on the vaccine. Did they really expect the COVID-19 vaccine to be an elixir of immortality? Please grow up.
Fact #4 : Vaccine Side Effects Appear Within Hours / Days
Doug Brignole was fully-vaccinated against COVID-19 more than 18 months ago. That’s 1.5 years ago.
He cannot possibly have died from a vaccine side effect, because they appear within hours or days, not many months later.
Mild side effects like injection site pain, fever, muscle ache, headache, lethargy develop within minutes to hours of the vaccination.
Anaphylaxis develops within minutes, while other severe adverse reactions like myocarditis and VITT develop within days.
The spike proteins produced by the COVID-19 vaccines also do not stick around for months. If these spike proteins are permanent (as antivaxxers claim), we would have lifelong immunity.
Your own immune system will identify the spike proteins as foreign, and destroy them within a matter of days, although some may last for up to a few weeks. This is part of how vaccines teach your immune system to identify the enemy and destroy it.
Read more : Do mRNA Vaccines Cause Invasion of Killer Lymphocytes?!
Killer-Lymphocytes-COVID-19-fact-check.jpg

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Fact #5 : SADS Is An Inherited Heart Condition
It is ludicrous to claim that COVID-19 vaccines cause sudden arrhythmic death syndrome (SADS), because SADS was first documented in 1977 – long before COVID-19 vaccines were invented!
Despite what anti-vaccination activists may tell you – SADS is not a new vaccine-related syndrome.
SADS is an inherited problem with your heart’s electrical system, which produces an abnormal heart rhythm that leads to a cardiac arrest. That’s why it can be prevented by implanting a cardioverter-defribillator.
SADS also occurs at a rate of 0.12 to 0.21 per 100,000 people every single year. In other words, approximately 9,000 to 16,000 people die from SADS every single year, before the COVID-19 vaccines were invented.
The UK Office for National Statistics data on Sudden Adult Deaths from 2016 to 2020 also showed NO INCREASE in SADS cases, demonstrating that COVID-19 vaccines did not increase the prevalence of SADS.
Note : There is no 2021 data until sometime in December 2022. The 2020 data was only released on 22 December 2021.
Vaccination in the United Kingdom started on 8 December 2020, with over a million doses administered by end of the month. Despite (false) claims that the vaccines cause SADS, that did not result in an increase in SADS cases.
YearsSudden Adult Death
Syndrome Cases20161162017632018532019872020115
Fact #6 : Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome Does Not Exist
After social media filters started clamping down on SADS, anti-vaccination activists have coined a new term – Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome (VIDS or VDS).
There is no such thing as Vaccine-Induced Death Syndrome. It is simply a term they made up to blame every sudden death on the COVID-19 vaccine.
Despite what anti-vaccination activists claim, COVID-19 vaccines do not cause people to suddenly die.
Read more : Robert Cormier : Cause of Death NOT Vaccine SADS!
Doug-Brignole-vaccine-death-fact-check.jpg

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Fact #7 : Deaths / Injuries From COVID-19 Vaccines Can Be Proven
Despite anti-vaccination activists chalking up celebrity deaths to the vaccine; death or injury from rare vaccine adverse effects like anaphylaxis, myocarditis and VITT can be proven.
Anaphylaxis (severe allergic reaction) from Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines happens within minutes. That’s why people are asked to wait for 15-30 minutes after getting the vaccine. People who get an anaphylactic shock will require an epinephrine shot to quickly relieve it.
Vaccine-induced myocarditis has distinct histopathology findings that are different from typical myocarditis, so a pathologist will be able to determine if the myocarditis was caused by the vaccines or otherwise.
Vaccine-induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia (VITT) is very specific to the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. It is also easily differentiated by its unique combination of blood clots in large veins of the brains, abdomen and lungs, together with low platelet counts leading to bleeding tendencies.
Fact #8 : Claims Of Athletes Dying From COVID-19 Vaccine Proven False
This is yet another example of anti-vaccination activists abusing athlete deaths / injuries to create and propagate FAKE NEWS about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.
So far, claims of athlete deaths / injuries due to the COVID-19 vaccine have been proven false at every instance.
Will these anti-vaccination activists apologise for lying to you? Nope! They will just move on to the next athlete tragedy…
Please help us FIGHT FAKE NEWS by sharing this fact check article out, and please SUPPORT our work!
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Serious question: do you read the stuff you post?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
This is just plain stupid.
It’s dishonest at best and evil at worst.
It’s the same as the climate change people faking their data.
It actually discredits your side of the argument. If you will lie in your presentation of this data how can you be trusted in anything else you post.
He died from something that absolutely nobody has said is a side effect of the vaccine. It’s not related in any way. If he died in a car wreck it would have been just as unrelated.
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Did he die in a car wreck?
 
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Without details, I take care of a coroner's children. He has given me personal testimony that they have seen numerous cases of very unusual clots, and his family has been in the business for many, many years.

Now, I'm not a data analyst turned salesperson, so take it what it's worth.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
This is just plain stupid.
It’s dishonest at best and evil at worst.
It’s the same as the climate change people faking their data.
It actually discredits your side of the argument. If you will lie in your presentation of this data how can you be trusted in anything else you post.
He died from something that absolutely nobody has said is a side effect of the vaccine. It’s not related in any way. If he died in a car wreck it would have been just as unrelated.
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You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. My opinion is that it's pure evil to not at a minimum have the discussion of whether or not the vaccine had something to do with his death. He was suggesting we do exactly that. You could also respect my opinion. I guess it does not work both ways.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Without details, I take care of a coroner's children. He has given me personal testimony that they have seen numerous cases of very unusual clots, and his family has been in the business for many, many years.

Now, I'm not a data analyst turned salesperson, so take it what it's worth.
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Some people don't know how to form an opinion that goes opposite of what mainstream media is pushing. Sheep will be sheep
 
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#22,889
volfanhill said:
Do you seriously not get why? You and madvol were splashing every story you could about a non vaxed person dying every chance you got. Quite frankly it came off disgusting. Now those vaxes, and I got mine too plus a booster, don't seem they were all that effective. But you can't admit you were an ass and maybe wrong.
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Not your fault but the irony of this post and what came after was just too much to pass on.
 
#22,892
#22,892
Real stories from people who have had to deal with vaccine injuries. These are real people sharing their stories. It's pure evil to think these stories don't matter.

 
#22,894
#22,894
Orangeslice13 said:
This is just plain stupid.
It’s dishonest at best and evil at worst.
It’s the same as the climate change people faking their data.
It actually discredits your side of the argument. If you will lie in your presentation of this data how can you be trusted in anything else you post.
He died from something that absolutely nobody has said is a side effect of the vaccine. It’s not related in any way. If he died in a car wreck it would have been just as unrelated.
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Can you honestly explain why we should trust pharmaceutical companies?? Look at the fines they have had to pay. Name me one business thats had to pay out this much $$$ in fines. And you are seriously saying it's evil to question the safety of their product??

Violation Tracker Current Parent Company Summary
Current Parent Company Name: Pfizer
Ownership Structure: publicly traded (ticker symbol PFE)
Headquartered in: New York
Major Industry: pharmaceuticals
Specific Industry: pharmaceuticals
Penalty total since 2000: $10,268,633,525
Number of records: 91

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#22,896
VolinWayne said:
Can you honestly explain why we should trust pharmaceutical companies?? Look at the fines they have had to pay. Name me one business thats had to pay out this much $$$ in fines. And you are seriously saying it's evil to question the safety of their product??

pfizer | Violation Tracker
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He didn't say it was evil to question the safety of the product. Either read better or don't lie
 
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#22,900
Vjcvette said:
False, and it looks like it is just the opposite, you all do that when this happens to someone that is vaccinated, and what is that called when people accuse you of doing something that they themselves are
doing.....hmm lets see....its called Gaslighting.
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You did. I have called you out before. I can go back and look it up if I get bored and feel like it. You did it. Just own it. I say crap on here all the time that may offend others. I just don’t really worry about it.

You posted about a guy that died that was unvaccinated. And you showboated this by saying he should have gotten the shot. Paraphrased this.
 
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