Vaccine or not?

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Orangeslice13 said:
Thanks for explaining in detail how much you don’t care
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Lol how many times did you call me uneducated because I don’t Google juice berry supplements my guy ? I was actually trying to not to be a dck but dang slice . I still love you man 😉
 
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0nelilreb said:
Lol how many times did you call me uneducated because I don’t Google juice berry supplements my guy ? I was actually trying to not to be a dck but dang slice . I still love you man 😉
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I didn’t engage you.
I was asked about conspiracy theories from the left.
I gave an answer that you didn’t like so you engaged me.
Don’t act like you didn’t bring attitude to get it returned to you.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I simply said that I agreed with @SpaceCoastVol
Beyond that I have not engaged anyone who didn’t quote me.
It’s interesting that someone who came with “do you know any nurses….” Gets pissy when that attitude is returned to him.
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I’m not pissy at all but there are some things I do know a tiny bit about just being around people . My whole family it seems is in the medical profession , and I might know a little about trucking . Oh and where to find good fudge .
 
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The Vaccinated Now Account For A Majority Of COVID Deaths

FRIDAY, NOV 25, 2022 - 11:40 AM
Authored by Techno Fog via The Reactionary (emphasis ours),

There’s a remarkable concession appearing in The Washington Post today:

“a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.”​
The latest data shows that 58% of COVID-19 deaths in August 2022 were from people who were vaccinated or boosted. Based on past figures and the current trends, we can reasonably estimate that the number of vaccinated/boosted COVID-19 deaths will only rise. (In September 2021, the vaccinated accounted for 23% of COVID-19 deaths; in January/February 2022, the vaccinated were 42%.)
This is what happens when you rush ineffective and dangerous vaccines.
The FDA’s promises of efficacy – 91% for the Pfizer vaccine and 93% for the Moderna vaccine – were always based on hope, not data. So too were the promises of safety. At the time of the official approvals, both Pfizer and Moderna hadn’t submitted any type of long-term numbers on effectiveness. Their trials were polluted with the unblinding of participants and their safety studies are “ongoing.”
Now, we’re seeing efficacy numbers plummet within months of vaccination. The pandemic is of the vaccinated. The boosters? They’re to the benefit of the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical companies, as they mask the true problems with the two-shot vaccines.
Even with these numbers, the outgoing Anthony Fauci continues to vouch for the jab, stating the data “overwhelmingly show the effectiveness of vaccines.”

This is the same man who demanded school closures, inserted himself into the 2020 election by criticizing Trump’s COVID-19 response while complimenting China, and criticized Governor Ron DeSantis for reopening Florida’s schools.
All the while, Fauci was lying to the public about COVID-19 origins. In May of 2020, he told National Geographic that COVID-19 “could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.”
What he didn’t tell us was that he and US government clients were sabotaging and shutting down research and fact finding into the lab leak theory. What he didn’t say was that internal communications among himself and Francis Collins and Jeremy Farrar, revealed through a FOIA request by Jimmy Tobias, discussed “accidental lab passage in animals” and how the Wuhan lab was the “Wild West” and why the lab leak was a serious possibility.

Maybe we’ll get the truth once Republicans take power. Fauci has promised cooperation but be assured he’ll continue to be the slippery little doctor. Then there’s the lawsuit against the Biden Administration where Fauci is being deposed today. It’s a bit more difficult to evade questions from seasoned attorneys who have you for eight hours.
In any event, tomorrow at the dinner table, as you contemplate your blessings and eye the turkey, give an especially heartfelt thanks that this little megalomaniac will no longer curse the public with his presence.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m honestly surprised by the downward spiral this has taken because I simply answered questions
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You simply answered questions?

Or, did you claim that there is some mass movement of doctors selling unproven supplements to treat CV? Oh, and calling my profession "mostly clowns?"

If you've kept up, I think I have been very open with research, personal experience, and discussion with colleagues (including the esteemed infectious disease specialists that you worship).

Why are you suddenly off the reservation?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You simply answered questions?

Or, did you claim that there is some mass movement of doctors selling unproven supplements to treat CV? Oh, and calling my profession "mostly clowns?"

If you've kept up, I think I have been very open with research, personal experience, and discussion with colleagues (including the esteemed infectious disease specialists that you worship).

Why are you suddenly off the reservation?
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Still mad^^^^
No
I simply answered questions
I told Spacy I agreed with him then you engaged and I answered. Not once did I engage anyone beyond answering any and all questions.
I said both sides engage in conspiracy theory.
Was asked like what
I have an example of one that l heard from the other side.
I never said that it was true.
I never said I believed it
Just that I heard it.
I never even said it was plausible.
All that came from your assumptions.
You then said you never heard of it happening before saying that it only happened at certain offices.
You became angry Spouting off some garbage about double mask and shut down when I told you my nephew and 14 of his classmates had gotten the flu vaccine and then got the flu this season.
You asked what type of clowns I was seeing and I answered you. You set That definition.

If this conversation wasn’t to your liking then you have nothing to blame outside of yourself.
 
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Caculator said:

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The Vaccinated Now Account For A Majority Of COVID Deaths

FRIDAY, NOV 25, 2022 - 11:40 AM
Authored by Techno Fog via The Reactionary (emphasis ours),

There’s a remarkable concession appearing in The Washington Post today:

“a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.”​
The latest data shows that 58% of COVID-19 deaths in August 2022 were from people who were vaccinated or boosted. Based on past figures and the current trends, we can reasonably estimate that the number of vaccinated/boosted COVID-19 deaths will only rise. (In September 2021, the vaccinated accounted for 23% of COVID-19 deaths; in January/February 2022, the vaccinated were 42%.)
This is what happens when you rush ineffective and dangerous vaccines.
The FDA’s promises of efficacy – 91% for the Pfizer vaccine and 93% for the Moderna vaccine – were always based on hope, not data. So too were the promises of safety. At the time of the official approvals, both Pfizer and Moderna hadn’t submitted any type of long-term numbers on effectiveness. Their trials were polluted with the unblinding of participants and their safety studies are “ongoing.”
Now, we’re seeing efficacy numbers plummet within months of vaccination. The pandemic is of the vaccinated. The boosters? They’re to the benefit of the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical companies, as they mask the true problems with the two-shot vaccines.
Even with these numbers, the outgoing Anthony Fauci continues to vouch for the jab, stating the data “overwhelmingly show the effectiveness of vaccines.”

This is the same man who demanded school closures, inserted himself into the 2020 election by criticizing Trump’s COVID-19 response while complimenting China, and criticized Governor Ron DeSantis for reopening Florida’s schools.
All the while, Fauci was lying to the public about COVID-19 origins. In May of 2020, he told National Geographic that COVID-19 “could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.”
What he didn’t tell us was that he and US government clients were sabotaging and shutting down research and fact finding into the lab leak theory. What he didn’t say was that internal communications among himself and Francis Collins and Jeremy Farrar, revealed through a FOIA request by Jimmy Tobias, discussed “accidental lab passage in animals” and how the Wuhan lab was the “Wild West” and why the lab leak was a serious possibility.

Maybe we’ll get the truth once Republicans take power. Fauci has promised cooperation but be assured he’ll continue to be the slippery little doctor. Then there’s the lawsuit against the Biden Administration where Fauci is being deposed today. It’s a bit more difficult to evade questions from seasoned attorneys who have you for eight hours.
In any event, tomorrow at the dinner table, as you contemplate your blessings and eye the turkey, give an especially heartfelt thanks that this little megalomaniac will no longer curse the public with his presence.
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Orangeslice13 said:
Still mad^^^^
No
I simply answered questions
I told Spacy I agreed with him then you engaged and I answered. Not once did I engage anyone beyond answering any and all questions.
I said both sides engage in conspiracy theory.
Was asked like what
I have an example of one that l heard from the other side.
I never said that it was true.
I never said I believed it
Just that I heard it.
I never even said it was plausible.
All that came from your assumptions.
You then said you never heard of it happening before saying that it only happened at certain offices.
You became angry Spouting off some garbage about double mask and shut down when I told you my nephew and 14 of his classmates had gotten the flu vaccine and then got the flu this season.
You asked what type of clowns I was seeing and I answered you. You set That definition.

If this conversation wasn’t to your liking then you have nothing to blame outside of yourself.
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The problem I have with your anecdotal example of a conspiracy theory from the other side is that it was one that no one had ever heard of before... and then you came back and twisted that into..

Orangeslice13 said:
You’re not paying attention. They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
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Hey Slice... this wasn't my conspiracy that was being ignored. This was one from your side. So that makes you the Alex Jones tinfoil hat in this case.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The problem I have with your anecdotal example of a conspiracy theory from the other side is that it was one that no one had ever heard of before... and then you came back and twisted that into..



Hey Slice... this wasn't my conspiracy that was being ignored. This was one from your side. So that makes you the Alex Jones tinfoil hat in this case.
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If it’s they who is ignoring you then I’m not part of that we.

go watch football
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
If it’s they who is ignoring you then I’m not part of that we.

go watch football
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No, go back and look at what YOU typed.

You’re not paying attention. They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
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This in response to YOUR conspiracy theory and me asking why it wasn't more publicized. So what you are basically doing is what they call in soccer/the world cup an "own goal". The very assertion/accusation you are making was NOT heavily reported. So does that mean that the mainstream wanted to make YOU and people like you that pushed that story to be tinfoil hat Alex Jones conspiracy theorists?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, go back and look at what YOU typed.



This in response to YOUR conspiracy theory and me asking why it wasn't more publicized. So what you are basically doing is what they call in soccer/the world cup an "own goal". The very assertion/accusation you are making was NOT heavily reported. So does that mean that the mainstream wanted to make YOU and people like you that pushed that story to be tinfoil hat Alex Jones conspiracy theorists?
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Are you drunk?
Does this look like I’m ignoring you?
Do you see anyone pushing the mandates or masks in this thread?


They indicated people opposed to you.
People opposed to you doesn’t include me.
I think they want to use whatever they can to keep power over everyone. The problem is this issue is over. It’s beyond their ability to use at this point. Some may still try but it’s over. They are not waiting for the next issue. They are actively seeking it. Monkey pox was an example.
I’m sorry that this information burns you to the point you still want to cry and fight about it days later but just like the Covid mandates this debate is over too.

Get the vaccine
Don’t get the vaccine
Take ivermectin
Don’t take ivermectin
Whatever
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Are you drunk?
Does this look like I’m ignoring you?
Do you see anyone pushing the mandates or masks in this thread?
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Slice, it simply comes down to what you said here. And to add context, I will show you my comment along with your response.

Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, this media would have been jumping on a story like that with both feet and broadcasting it non-stop.
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re not paying attention.
They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
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The "that" is the story that you pulled out about these doctors pushing supplements. So by your own words and logic, they ignored and didn't cover that story because they wanted the pro-vax side look like tinfoil hats. Why would they give you credibility by reporting a story about doctors allegedly pushing supplements when they can equate you with Alex Jones?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Slice, it simply comes down to what you said here. And to add context, I will show you my comment along with your response.





The "that" is the story that you pulled out about these doctors pushing supplements. So by your own words and logic, they ignored and didn't cover that story because they wanted the pro-vax side look like tinfoil hats. Why would they give you credibility by reporting a story about doctors allegedly pushing supplements when they can equate you with Alex Jones?
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Not reading as I like you but don’t actually give a **** about this.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I didn't say it was a guarantee. There are no guarantees in life. Stop putting words in my mouth.
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Not trying to put words in your mouth brother, just trying to share my experience. There seems to be a lot of extremes on covid. One of course is the OMG mask up while swimming, and take everything politics tells you to. The other extreme is take your vitamins it's not really a big deal, it's all been overblown. The truth is Covid at least some varieties like delta were deadly, and you could do everything right but if you were one of the ones whose lungs got into the vicious cytokine storm, or had any comorbid conditions (asthma, poor lung function from whatever, weight, or diabeties and etc) It could definitely kill you. You HAD to have medical attention to get through it. However masking up everywhere, and taking a bunch of unproven medications because the politics told you to, and otherwise ignoring reason and logic on how viruses work was also stupid. My sharing of my experiences wasn't meant as an attack rather to educate you.
 
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