Vaccine or not?

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Orangeslice13 said:
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Half the Drs I fired as I’ve worked my way through the system to get where I’m at had special supplements they were selling.
I don’t buy for a second that you don’t know about this scam.
The most common being those damn juice berry capsules
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Slice, he wasn't saying that he didn't know of any doctors selling supplements. He was saying that he didn't know about this story about doctors spreading conspiracy theories in order to use their supplements for treating COVID.
 
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Does "thinking for yourself" include repeating right wing propaganda that the drug addict Ravens LB that died in a crack house died because of the vax? Or 450 lb former NBA player Caleb Swanigan? Or 450 pound former NFL player Tony Siragusa? Or the Stanford goalie that died suddenly (later reported to be suicide)?

Or the same right wing media that claimed a huge increase in deaths for kids 8-14 in Texas in May 2022? The same month as the Uvalde maasacre...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Does "thinking for yourself" include repeating right wing propaganda that the drug addict Ravens LB that died in a crack house died because of the vax? Or 450 lb former NBA player Caleb Swanigan? Or 450 pound former NFL player Tony Siragusa? Or the Stanford goalie that died suddenly (later reported to be suicide)?

Or the same right wing media that claimed a huge increase in deaths for kids 8-14 in Texas in May 2022? The same month as the Uvalde maasacre...
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Speaking of strawmen...
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm not mad. It's beyond fun to dump on "libertarians" that end up slobbing the knob of the government/industrial establishments while pretending to be genius freedom fighters because they continually make poor life choices.

Just because you only have the mental capacity to focus on one issue at a time doesn't mean that applies to the rest of us.
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Slice is a smart guy. But I think he is simply shows no cynicism or questions anything that the medical professionals in his life tell him when we have an abundance of evidence in the past 2 years to be cynical.
 
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ButchPlz said:
And it's totally irrelevant to the current discussion at hand. Hence- strawman.

Unless you're just trying to stir something up. Then have at it.
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It brings credibility into question.
I mean you can't expect to be taken seriously if you concede credibility on every dam point but come back to "OK, I'm throwing out a fallacy against you because right now we are talking specifically about this one thing."
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
No, you claimed your tribe " thought for themselves". I posted 5 examples of that.

It's fair game...
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I'm not part of a "tribe". Nor have I, personally, claimed that those random deaths you posted were vaccine related. If I am part of a "tribe", it's the tribe that patiently waited for results from the "vaccine", which has since proven totally ineffective at preventing the spread and severity of COVID and has less benefit than potential downsides. Is that an unreasonable "tribe"?

It's quite literally indisputable that the vaccine was rushed, was untested, is ineffective, and is a profit machine for its makers. Why would I trust that type of product?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Slice is a smart guy. But I think he is simply shows no cynicism or questions anything that the medical professionals in his life tell him when we have an abundance of evidence in the past 2 years to be cynical.
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Bull ****
I’ve been through a crap load of Drs to get to these.
I’m blessed to have Drs that tell me the options and let me decide what we’re doing.


You’d like him a bunch actually
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Slice is a smart guy. But I think he is simply shows no cynicism or questions anything that the medical professionals in his life tell him when we have an abundance of evidence in the past 2 years to be cynical.
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Cynical? Gotta be a stronger word than that for all the crap, lies, and politics we have endured.
No different than CC
 
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GordonC said:
It brings credibility into question.
I mean you can't expect to be taken seriously if you concede credibility on every dam point but come back to "OK, I'm throwing out a fallacy against you because right now we are talking specifically about this one thing."
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What "credibility" have I claimed to have?

I'm not asking to be taken seriously. I literally posted that I'm dicking around on the internet before a soccer game while my wife is out shopping. I don't care if random people I don't care about take me seriously.

I know that I question the viability of an untested, ineffective product that was mandated down by governments at the behest of an industry that is geared solely toward dollars, not health. I know that I find it funny that someone that claims to love freedom gets butthurt over people not talking about the topic he wants talked about, especially when they throw around big words they clearly don't understand (or, even worse, try to hold others to a standard they don't apply to themselves). Does that make me a conspiracy theorist of some kind?

If you want to question my "credibility", have at it.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I was taking the above mentioned vitamins, and in addition Quercetin and Elderberry as Zinc Ionophores for better absorption. I did not have access to Hydrochloroquinine then sadly because of politics, that an Ivermectin could have helped considerably. Still I did everything I could do as did my family. Still my son caught Delta and it swept right through the family, nearly killing me but even son and wife were quite sick. People who were vaxed had the exact same experience, many of the people who died when I was in hospital had the vaxines. Hopefully the newer strains will continue to not be as dangerous. However simply boosting your immune system is no guarantee. I used to think Covid was no big deal, until it nearly killed me. I do think perhaps getting more sunshine and outside time could be of great benefit, I have noted those that worked outside seem to have been less effected. I think getting everyone to stay indoors was perhaps one of the biggest killers in how this was handled.
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I didn't say it was a guarantee. There are no guarantees in life. Stop putting words in my mouth.
 
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ButchPlz said:
What "credibility" have I claimed to have?

I'm not asking to be taken seriously. I literally posted that I'm dicking around on the internet before a soccer game while my wife is out shopping. I don't care if random people I don't care about take me seriously.

I know that I question the viability of an untested, ineffective product that was mandated down by governments at the behest of an industry that is geared solely toward dollars, not health. I know that I find it funny that someone that claims to love freedom gets butthurt over people not talking about the topic he wants talked about, especially when they throw around big words they clearly don't understand (or, even worse, try to hold others to a standard they don't apply to themselves). Does that make me a conspiracy theorist of some kind?

If you want to question my "credibility", have at it.
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best news I've heard all day

GO VOLS
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm not part of a "tribe". Nor have I, personally, claimed that those random deaths you posted were vaccine related. If I am part of a "tribe", it's the tribe that patiently waited for results from the "vaccine", which has since proven totally ineffective at preventing the spread and severity of COVID and has less benefit than potential downsides. Is that an unreasonable "tribe"?

It's quite literally indisputable that the vaccine was rushed, was untested, is ineffective, and is a profit machine for its makers. Why would I trust that type of product?
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You didnt push the random death stuff but you also didn't say "Hey, that's BS" either.

The vax was effective through Fall 2021. At a minimun, it bought some time for the most vulnerable parts of the population to get vaxxed.

However, these things are fluid and the virus mutated and the vax didn't keep up. The Biden Administration failed to look at current trends when they tried to mandate the vax. Again, I was against that mandate since it wasn't supported by facts at that time...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You didnt push the random death stuff but you also didn't say "Hey, that's BS" either.

The vax was effective through Fall 2021. At a minimun, it bought some time for the most vulnerable parts of the population to get vaxxed.

However, these things are fluid and the virus mutated and the vax didn't keep up. The Biden Administration failed to look at current trends when they tried to mandate the vax. Again, I was against that mandate since it wasn't supported by facts at that time...
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My man, I don't hang out in this thread 24/7. Do you call out every single post you disagree with? That's a goofy thought.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Bull ****
I’ve been through a crap load of Drs to get to these.
I’m blessed to have Drs that tell me the options and let me decide what we’re doing.


You’d like him a bunch actually
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Nah, I like the guy I have right now. Doesn't like to prescribe a bunch of medicines but instead believes in lifestyle changes and diet.

He also told me in April 2021 to not take the vax. He had treated about 80-90 patients at that time for COVID with little to no serious issues.
 
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