Vanderbilt assistant responds angrily

[GoVols15]

I'm pretty sure I both understood your post and responded to it quite well.

Your post didn't have much of a point other than to say that I don't understand football and remind me that Tennessee used to be good, granted, but I did the best with what I was given.

So, of what am I ignorant again? Tennessee's football history that you couldn't even accurately recall? Louisville's Sugar Bowl win last year and likely Top 10 preseason ranking? Charlie Strong not being in Knoxville? Enlighten me.

Enlighten YOU! I tried and failed. Keep rambling as "ignorance is bliss" in your case. Good luck in life ...

 

[notabed22]

Enlighten YOU! I tried and failed. Keep rambling as "ignorance is bliss" in your case. Good luck in life ...

I mean, I guess that qualifies as a response. I'll give some credit for the seemingly arbitrary decision to capitalize "YOU" and attempt to use that as some sort of retort.

 

[tim]

I don't think that Charlie Strong is at Louisville for the long haul. I hope that I'm wrong, but I just don't see it despite the ACC move and the recent success.

I think he wants to jump to a bigger ship, and figures that possibly doing some crazy damage in a weak conference this year and maybe doing something ridiculous in January makes him a lot more appealing to a top-flight football program.

Lol. Enlighten me on a ship that is bigger than UT? Especially one that is going to need a coach in the next 2-3 years... USCe and USCw, Cali is not a good mesh and SC is not a bigger ship...who ya got there thats gonna come begging for him?

 

[notabed22]

Lol. Enlighten me on a ship that is bigger than UT? Especially one that is going to need a coach in the next 2-3 years... USCe and USCw, Cali is not a good mesh and SC is not a bigger ship...who ya got there thats gonna come begging for him?

It's hard to tell what will be open after this fall, but there are a good 20 or so jobs better than Tennessee. As such, any of them would be a better gig than Tennessee. I don't anticipate many openings, but you never know.

If Strong wins a second BCS bowl this year, posts an undefeated season, remains in the national title hunt... he could get one of those better jobs.

 

[tim]

It's hard to tell what will be open after this fall, but there are a good 20 or so jobs better than Tennessee. As such, any of them would be a better gig than Tennessee. I don't anticipate many openings, but you never know.

If Strong wins a second BCS bowl this year, posts an undefeated season, remains in the national title hunt... he could get one of those better jobs.

Name 20. You're delusional. His last SEC offer was his first

 

[GoVols15]

It's hard to tell what will be open after this fall, but there are a good 20 or so jobs better than Tennessee. As such, any of them would be a better gig than Tennessee. I don't anticipate many openings, but you never know.

If Strong wins a second BCS bowl this year, posts an undefeated season, remains in the national title hunt... he could get one of those better jobs.

This guy has to be acting deliberately stupid to gain some attention. Best thing to do is ignore this Buffoon!

 

[whocaresgobobcats]

It's hard to tell what will be open after this fall, but there are a good 20 or so jobs better than Tennessee. As such, any of them would be a better gig than Tennessee. I don't anticipate many openings, but you never know.

If Strong wins a second BCS bowl this year, posts an undefeated season, remains in the national title hunt... he could get one of those better jobs.

Hard to post an undefeated season when he loses the first game.

 

[notabed22]

Name 20. You're delusional. His last SEC offer was his first

Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Notre Dame, Georgia, Oregon, A&M, Penn State (really), Free Shoes, Auburn, Nebraska, UCLA, Clemson, South Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech...

Hey, look, I even gave you an extra!

Edit: Silly me... I forgot Ohio State! 22!

 

[notabed22]

This guy has to be acting deliberately stupid to gain some attention. Best thing to do is ignore this Buffon!

"Buffon"

I'll remember that one.

 

[tim]

Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Notre Dame, Georgia, Oregon, A&M, Penn State (really), Free Shoes, Auburn, Nebraska, UCLA, Clemson, South Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech...

Hey, look, I even gave you an extra!

Edit: Silly me... I forgot Ohio State! 22!

Maybe 5. None of which want Chollie..

 

[tim]

"Buffon"

I'll remember that one.

Should be easy, it'll be used to describe you for the rest of your life

 

[notabed22]

Maybe 5. None of which want Chollie..

Some of them are debatable, but you have to consider recruiting base. In any event, saying there are 5 better jobs than Tennessee is delusional.

Should be easy, it'll be used to describe you for the rest of your life

I was mostly commenting on his inability to spell "buffoon" when attempting to insult someone else's intellect.

 

[GoVols15]

Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Notre Dame, Georgia, Oregon, A&M, Penn State (really), Free Shoes, Auburn, Nebraska, UCLA, Clemson, South Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech...

Hey, look, I even gave you an extra!

Edit: Silly me... I forgot Ohio State! 22!

I know I am giving him what he wants but this guy really is a legend in his own mind. The sad part is I think he really believes what he posts. The team he supports tells you all you need to know about this troll.

 

[notabed22]

I know I am giving him what he wants but this guy really is a legend in his own mind. The sad part is I think he really believes what he posts. The team he supports tells you all you need to know about this troll.

Please, tell me which of the 22 teams I listed you disagree with regarding being superior to Tennessee. I'm waiting. Reasoning would also be nice!

 

[GoVols15]

Please, tell me which of the 22 teams I listed you disagree with regarding being superior to Tennessee. I'm waiting. Reasoning would also be nice!

Please see my 4:48 PM post. I guess you really do have a reading comprehension problem among other issues.

 

[Daloth]

Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Notre Dame, Georgia, Oregon, A&M, Penn State (really), Free Shoes, Auburn, Nebraska, UCLA, Clemson, South Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech...

Hey, look, I even gave you an extra!

Edit: Silly me... I forgot Ohio State! 22!

Such a legend he can list the same school twice in his numbers.

and lol @ UCLA, Clemson, SC, Vtech, current Penn St, Miami, FSU, Oklahoma, and Nebraska as well. If it's not the 90's for us it isn't for them either.

 

[notabed22]

Such a legend he can list the same school twice in his numbers.

and lol @ UCLA, Clemson, SC, Vtech, current Penn St, Miami, FSU, Oklahoma, and Nebraska as well. If it's not the 90's for us it isn't for them either.

Haha, my bad. Drunk posting doesn't always work out the best. 21 superior programs it is!

As far as those schools you mentioned... yea, people have rough patches. Tennessee is currently mired in one, as you mentioned, but is far from screwed. The Vols have, what, the #3 class at this point? Anyway... Miami, FSU, Oklahoma and Nebraska are clear cut better coaching gigs than UT. PSU is a given, though the scandal hurts, because of the fertile recruiting base.

SCAR and Clemson? That's all opinion, my position bolstered by their ridiculous recruiting base.

 

[tim]

Haha, my bad. Drunk posting doesn't always work out the best. 21 superior programs it is!

As far as those schools you mentioned... yea, people have rough patches. Tennessee is currently mired in one, as you mentioned, but is far from screwed. The Vols have, what, the #3 class at this point? Anyway... Miami, FSU, Oklahoma and Nebraska are clear cut better coaching gigs than UT. PSU is a given, though the scandal hurts, because of the fertile recruiting base.

SCAR and Clemson? That's all opinion, my position bolstered by their ridiculous recruiting base.

You realize we got the coach that has a winning record against your coach... right? We clearly accidentally got the better coach.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

Haha, my bad. Drunk posting doesn't always work out the best. 21 superior programs it is!

As far as those schools you mentioned... yea, people have rough patches. Tennessee is currently mired in one, as you mentioned, but is far from screwed. The Vols have, what, the #3 class at this point? Anyway... Miami, FSU, Oklahoma and Nebraska are clear cut better coaching gigs than UT. PSU is a given, though the scandal hurts, because of the fertile recruiting base.

SCAR and Clemson? That's all opinion, my position bolstered by their ridiculous recruiting base.

"Clear cut better coaching gigs," based on what empirical standard, the current status of the programs in question? If that is the case, we could just as easily cherrypick selected time periods when Tennessee was at its peak and other traditional powers were on a down cycle to claim the obverse of your assertion.

As a case in point, let’s take at look at the first half of Fulmer’s tenure (1993-2001), a period during which Tennessee’s winning pct. was 5th in the nation, eclipsed only by Nebraska, Florida State, Marshall and Florida (see I-A Winning Percentage 1993-2001). Among the programs that you claimed were “clear cut better coaching gigs,” Texas was 19th, Auburn was tied for 20th, Notre Dame was 22nd, Penn State was 24th, Georgia was 28th, UCLA was 32nd, Oklahoma was 33rd, USC was 36th, LSU was 38th, Clemson was 39th and the almighty Crimson Tide was a lowly 41st. I cite these data simply to demonstrate that, in my opinion, the best criteria for truly assessing the desirability of a given coaching position is long-term historical success, as opposed to a myopic “what-have-you-done-in-the-last-five-years” perspective.

Tennessee, admittedly, is a slow rebuilding process because of the historically weak instate recruiting base. When the program is humming, however, it is not hard to maintain because of its tradition.

With respect to Nebraska, Tennessee has more in common with that program than any of the other traditional powers. Nebraska's state population still has not eclipsed 2,000,000 and, unlike Oklahoma, they don't have the luxury of simply stepping across the Red River and raiding Texas for talent. They aren't likely to regularly reach the dizzying heights that they enjoyed in the old Big Eight/Twelve days. Given those circumstances, the powerhouse status which they achieved for decades on end was truly remarkable.

As for Oregon, they are unquestionably one of the nation's elite . . . for now. They were nothing more than mediocre until about the last 15 years or so. The same thing is most definitely true of South Carolina prior to Spurrier's tenure and almost certainly will be again after he is gone. The ten or so traditional powers are designated as such because they have achieved higher and more prolonged peaks and suffered shorter and less severe valleys. Whether you want to admit it or not, Tennessee is one of those traditional powers and half of the programs that you cited as superior coaching positions are not. Your continuous sniping at Tennessee is not appreciated, particularly on a TENNESSEE MESSAGE BOARD, but you disingenuously hide behind the smug facade of objectivity.

 

[BeecherVol]

Exactly! It wouldn't be remotely newsworthy because it's so expected. Tennessee needs to address fixing their issues as opposed to mocking Vanderbilt's past so that they can continue to have superior seasons to the 'Dores, while Vanderbilt needs to try and somehow sustain and improve upon their relative success in recent years.

Where has Butch Jones or his staff stepped away from addressing UTs needs to mock Vandys past?

Im curious as to why this response was skipped over, or if you just missed it. I was interested in the response.

 

[notabed22]

Really long-winded post.

Uh... winning a ton of games doesn't necessarily make a gig good. Notice how I didn't mention Boise State? Not that it matters for Tennessee because, currently, the Vols are losing with authority. Luckily I didn't say "20 gigs better on June 17th, 1999!"

Harp on all you'd like about Tennessee being a "traditional power" but, right now, there are 20 jobs better than Tennessee. Tennessee's "long-term" success includes a 20-year drought between national titles, mind you. I'd rather be a giant killer right now than hunt and peck for periods of dominance 60 years ago.

 

[notabed22]

Im curious as to why this response was skipped over, or if you just missed it. I was interested in the response.

The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

Tennessee could have 110,000 people crowding Neyland this fall... it's not going to make any difference to a Vanderbilt squad that's hellbent on destroying the Vols. Chalk that up as loss number 7.

 

[utvolpj]

The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

Vandy fans think too highly of themselves

 

[LieutenantNeyland]

The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

No, just No! It literally contains a link to a comment from a coach who came from a school with a 30,000 seat stadium! He's happy that he's at a place with a great fan base. Vandy is is so butt hurt!!!!!!!

 

[YorkVol]

The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

Tennessee could have 110,000 people crowding Neyland this fall... it's not going to make any difference to a Vanderbilt squad that's hellbent on destroying the Vols. Chalk that up as loss number 7.

We'll see. I know one thing for sure, our Vols will come in fired up. Destruction may happen, just not in the way you think.