Vanderbilt assistant responds angrily

#101
#101
This 22 guy is a major idiot if he thinks a job at a school with a 60,000 seat stadium, pee-wee size facilities, a town with one street and an empty case reserved for a nonexistent title trophy is a top 20 job.
 
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#102
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notabed22 said:
The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

Tennessee could have 110,000 people crowding Neyland this fall... it's not going to make any difference to a Vanderbilt squad that's hellbent on destroying the Vols. Chalk that up as loss number 7.
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From what was linked in the OP he "literally" said some places.

Some places can't get 60,000+ to a game or seat 60,000 in their stadium! #BrickbyBrick #VolbyVol We will #RiseToTheTop! #VOLUNTEERSTATE
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You stuck Vandy in there on your own.

He could have been praising the turn out while comparing it to his previous 2 jobs. That probably does make for good media tho.
 
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notabed22 said:
The original post in this thread literally contains a link to a comment from Jones mocking Vanderbilt's stadium size.

Tennessee could have 110,000 people crowding Neyland this fall... it's not going to make any difference to a Vanderbilt squad that's hellbent on destroying the Vols. Chalk that up as loss number 7.
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That's right. Keep poking the hornet's nest.
 
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BeecherVol said:
From what was linked in the OP he "literally" said some places.



You stuck Vandy in there on your own.

He could have been praising the turn out while comparing it to his previous 2 jobs. That probably does make for good media tho.
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Okay, maybe he did, but why let facts get in the way of a good story, right?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
This 22 guy is a major idiot if he thinks a job at a school with a 60,000 seat stadium, pee-wee size facilities, a town with one street and an empty case reserved for a nonexistent title trophy is a top 20 job.
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Virginia Tech perennially underachieves. When Beamer leaves, the right choice in a replacement will furnish that trophy case.
 
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shadedvolorange said:
are franklin and the coaches on west end feeling pressure they are placing on themselves? they continue bragging on last years nine wins including a bowl victory . by that standard anything less next year will be a failure. oh well, maybe they will graduate 89% in 2013.
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Thus, they bought out two games and inserted whipping boys in their place.
 
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notabed22 said:
Uh... winning a ton of games doesn't necessarily make a gig good. Notice how I didn't mention Boise State? Not that it matters for Tennessee because, currently, the Vols are losing with authority. Luckily I didn't say "20 gigs better on June 17th, 1999!"

Harp on all you'd like about Tennessee being a "traditional power" but, right now, there are 20 jobs better than Tennessee. Tennessee's "long-term" success includes a 20-year drought between national titles, mind you. I'd rather be a giant killer right now than hunt and peck for periods of dominance 60 years ago.
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What? lol
 
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notabed22 said:
Virginia Tech perennially underachieves. When Beamer leaves, the right choice in a replacement will furnish that trophy case.
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So, "underachievement" doesn't effect the quality of a coaching job, but UT's past 4 years does... Totally logical. :crazy:

And a potential new coach, eventually, effects the quality of a coaching job, but UT currently having a new coach, with a 2/1 winning percentage against your coach doesn't... Totally logical. :crazy:
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, "underachievement" doesn't effect the quality of a coaching job, but UT's past 4 years does... Totally logical. :crazy:

And a potential new coach, eventually, effects the quality of a coaching job, but UT currently having a new coach, with a 2/1 winning percentage against your coach doesn't... Totally logical. :crazy:
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Virginia Tech has a nice little hotbed of in-state talent.

And, yea, Cincinnati beat Louisville. He coaches at UT now, who can't beat Louisville in a single sport.

P.S. Butch Jones is winless against Derek Dooley!
 
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notabed22 said:
Virginia Tech has a nice little hotbed of in-state talent.

And, yea, Cincinnati beat Louisville. He coaches at UT now, who can't beat Louisville in a single sport.

P.S. Butch Jones is winless against Derek Dooley!
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What is your purpose for being a poster on this site? Just to stir up argument? You are extremely annoying
 
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notabed22 said:
Virginia Tech has a nice little hotbed of in-state talent.

And, yea, Cincinnati beat Louisville. He coaches at UT now, who can't beat Louisville in a single sport.

P.S. Butch Jones is winless against Derek Dooley!
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No red herrings. You logic:

VTech is currently a better coaching job than UT's, despite the fact that they have underachieved. UT's storied history does not help them because of their lack of recent success (note: the definition of underachievement).

VTech is a better coaching job than UT because once they have a new coach, they will stop underachieving. UT has a new coach that has not underachieved anywhere he has been.

You want to keep digging?

(Note: When UT was dominant, it was made up of national recruits. "Recruiting ground" is a flaccid argument when it comes to coaching jobs at storied programs. A quality coach isn't scared off by that-- unless your argument is 'UT isn't a great job for lazy coaches that don't know how to win". At which point, I agree with you.)
 
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In a single word, San Diego Vol, yes. If he would openly state, "I can't stand/despise/hate Tennessee," I could at least respect such honesty. His continuous anti-Tennessee diatribes are tantamount to such an omission, but he has, to my knowledge, never been forthright enough to make an overt declaration to that effect.
 
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daj2576 said:
I laughed at his response: "Please press play and not rewind" like "don't look at the past" yet the graduation numbers and record Vandy is touting are in that very same past.

Seems like a good response is to remind him that many of our players who don't graduate go on to the NFL and will make more than decades worth of Vandy players will ever make in the NFL OR on the job market.

In essence not graduating from UT because you are a great athlete is far greater than graduating from Vandy.
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Oh hell yes:eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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notabed22 said:
Virginia Tech has a nice little hotbed of in-state talent.

And, yea, Cincinnati beat Louisville. He coaches at UT now, who can't beat Louisville in a single sport.

P.S. Butch Jones is winless against Derek Dooley!
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(1) If UT can't beat UL at a single sport, that is, again, the definition of underachieving. (Your flawed argument number 1.)

(2) CBJ played UT before enjuries, when UT had a stable of much better athletes. If CBJ beat UL two out of three at Cinci, he could do it at UT with better players. (CBJ as new coach at UT-- i.e. your flawed argument number two.)

Did you seriously try to validate two illogical arguments by trying to repaint the same illogical arguments? lol
 
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notabed22 said:
Virginia Tech perennially underachieves. When Beamer leaves, the right choice in a replacement will furnish that trophy case.
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You know how I know you don't know anything?

You clearly have no idea that Tech was a yearly 2-4 win team pre-Beamer because they don't have the money or fanbase and Blacksburg sucks.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
(1) If UT can't beat UL at a single sport, that is, again, the definition of underachieving. (Your flawed argument number 1.)

(2) CBJ played UT before enjuries, when UT had a stable of much better athletes. If CBJ beat UL two out of three at Cinci, he could do it at UT with better players. (CBJ as new coach at UT-- i.e. your flawed argument number two.)

Did you seriously try to validate two illogical arguments by trying to repaint the same illogical arguments? lol
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Thank you Crush. Was a mighty battle but the troll became flummoxed and admitted his/her defeat by disappearing.:salute:
 
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rockytop9808 said:
You know how I know you don't know anything?

You clearly have no idea that Tech was a yearly 2-4 win team pre-Beamer because they don't have the money or fanbase and Blacksburg sucks.
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You are very salty towards Virginia Tech. Did you not get admitted or something? Virginia Tech was an independent and used to suck, yes. Now, they don't suck. It's really a very simple concept.

Orange_Crush said:
(1) If UT can't beat UL at a single sport, that is, again, the definition of underachieving. (Your flawed argument number 1.)

(2) CBJ played UT before enjuries, when UT had a stable of much better athletes. If CBJ beat UL two out of three at Cinci, he could do it at UT with better players. (CBJ as new coach at UT-- i.e. your flawed argument number two.)

Did you seriously try to validate two illogical arguments by trying to repaint the same illogical arguments? lol
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1) Yea... UT can't beat Louisville in any sport this season. Your point? Whether or not it's due to underachieving or just not being good enough, they're not racking up wins against the Cardinals.

2) Butch Jones beat Louisville when Louisville was in a rebuilding period, much like Tennessee's current rebuilding period. Butch Jones may get Tennessee back to being a team that can beat Louisville but, this season, there would be no chance.

UT is a Top 25 coaching gig. It is not a Top 20 coaching gig. I provided you a list of twenty schools that have either a significant recruiting advantage (something that makes a job good because your job is easier), a better path to a BCS bowl or national championship (also makes a job better) or a combination of both.

Tennessee can win national titles, that much is obvious. When Tennessee is doing well, they move up the good ob ladder. Unfortunately, right now, the Vols suck. It's a hard place to win big since you're recruiting out of state talent (Butch is doing great at this) and dealing with the toughest conference in America. There is a reason that Tennessee hasn't been able to get a big name coach like you've deluded yourself into thinking that you deserve.

P.S. ESPN just came out with their Top 25. Louisville sits at #4. I'll leave you with this gem.

"Is there a hotter athletics department in the country than Louisville right now?"

Hell, in five years you'll probably be looking up at Louisville as they become one of the Top 20 jobs in college football!
 
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And those same analysts have USC ranked again. You also forgot this nugget -
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The Cardinals might not be the country's fourth-best team based on talent and depth, but which opponent is capable of unseating them in the depleted Big East? Louisville plays a soft nonconference schedule (Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, Kentucky and Florida International) and its Big East road games will be played at Temple, South Florida, Connecticut and Cincinnati.
 
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