Vegas has vols over/under at 4.5 wins

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#126
sjt18 said:
A 5-7 record would be an underachievement of the talent... again.
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I agree, but we still have a major depth issue.

A couple injuries to key (emphasis on "key." We know injuries will happen) guys, and we may be heading to West End with 4 wins.
 
#127
#127
sjt18 said:
J Williams is a starter as is Saulsberry if he returns from his injury as projected. Coleman is a starter at either NB or CB. McNeil is a returning starter and in spite of all the chatter... he's a starter until someone takes it away from him.

The only "unknowns" on O as far as starters right now are TE and LT. I know Jones wants to keep the competition high and people just love to speculate about the QB position. However except for when he was injured and Jones' very brief flirtation with Peterman, Worley has been the starter since Bray left. It is very doubtful that changes unless he is completely ineffective once games start or else he gets hurt.

Six to 8 wins is the reasonable range for this team against this schedule if Jones is a coach capable of coaching UT to championships. Five would mean a second straight year of underachieving AND losing to at least one team with less talent. Four wins will and very much should put Jones on a very hot seat with a one year "prove it" probation period.

Talent wise barring major injuries, UT should beat Mizzou. If UT loses that game without having suffered critical injuries then it will mean that Pinkel outcoached Jones badly- not a good sign.
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I'm not worried about the coaching. South Carolina, Georgia, Vandy.... CBJ outcoached all three with a very vanilla playbook. Two of those would have been wins if not for missteps by the players. This year the talent will be superior and the playbooks will be opened up.
 
#128
#128
chatt-townVOL said:
We haven't even named a starting QB yet.

A good portion of our talent isn't even on campus yet.

Lines are going to move like crazy over the next 3 months. Everyone chill.
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You missed the point. It's not about "chillin" because the "lines will move." It's about placing your bet NOW, BEFORE THE LINE MOVES.

I'll take the over. We may not win > 5, but we'll win at least 5.
 
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#132
DC Vol said:
I think the game behind the losses this year is just as important, if not more, than the wins.

If we go 6-6 but get absolutely blown out in most of our 6 losses... no bueno.

If we go 5-7 but win 5 convincingly and lose 7 in very close fashion... I think that would be better leverage for coaches in the way you iterated.

We have to prove we're close to competing. That's why the win-loss doesn't mean much to me this year... it's how we got to each win and loss that matters.
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Said about as well as it can be.
 
#134
#134
Overall 8-4
SEC 5-3

Win - Utah State
Win - Arkansas State
Loss - Oklahoma
Loss - Georgia
Win - Florida
Win - Chattanooga
Win - Ole Miss
Loss - Alabama
Loss - USCe
Win - Kentucy
Win - Missouri
Win - Vanderbilt
 
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#135
Haphazard Harm said:
Overall 8-4
SEC 5-3

Win - Utah State
Win - Arkansas State
Loss - Oklahoma
Loss - Georgia
Win - Florida
Win - Chattanooga
Win - Ole Miss
Loss - Alabama
Loss - USCe
Win - Kentucy
Win - Missouri
Win - Vanderbilt
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It could happen. At Ole Miss and vs. UF look like the tough ones you have listed as W's. I do not expect Mizzou to be that good this year. Year three will be just enough for those Tigers to see just wth they got themselves into. They rode a perfect storm last year, gonna be hell to pay for them this year.
 
#136
#136
Rooster1 said:
It could happen. At Ole Miss and vs. UF look like the tough ones you have listed as W's. I do not expect Mizzou to be that good this year. Year three will be just enough for those Tigers to see just wth they got themselves into. They rode a perfect storm last year, gonna be hell to pay for them this year.
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I'm thinking the same thing for Mizzou. Them and Auburn both got lucky as hell to make it to the SEC Championship game. Mizzou, with all the injuries to key players on other teams and then the barn with their fluke plays against UGA and Bama. I've never seen two teams squeak in to the SEC title game like that, definitely a first.
 
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#137
It sucks to look at, but the truth is, I don't think they're too far off... Our schedule is tough as hell. Like someone else said, our only for sure win is freakin' Chattanooga. I would be happy with 6 regular season wins and a Bowl appearance.

The good news is, we have some great young talent coming in this season. This year should pay off big time. I'm already excited for 2015! :dance2:
 
#140
#140
Voltrapnbama said:
What was there over/under for Auburn last year? Its easy to be accurate for teams with stability but very hard with new coaches and new players on the field. Jmo
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while Cat is looking for Auburn's o/u for last year, why don't you pull the o/u for the rest of the FBS and see how close they really are. Heck, just find the SEC o/u and compare it.

Here's a hint: find out what the Vegas o/u on our Vols were under the new coach and compare that to our actual record.
 
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