Venezuela's Triumphant Socialist Paradise

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luthervol said:
I actually have him on my good list. He's just a tad bitter and cynical, maybe something from his past.
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Hog seems like a good dude. He argues his beliefs well. Once upon a time in another thread he agreed with me on almost everything. Single payer healthcare screwed up the bromance.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Which one? Been busy.
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Should I check the news in Florida to see the massive 80 car pileup on the Interstate?

Your point that you refused to make yesterday. The one why Trump should have gone to war with Russia for landing a bomber in the proverbial backyard. You really were not making sense. Not like that's a foreign concept to you...
 
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Grand Vol said:
You really believe everything you hear that allegedly gets attributed to Trump?

If you truly are that gullible, you shouldn't be voting.
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There were numerous sources that stated Trump wanted to invade Venezuela. Don't get fussy with me, your dude did it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
"Sources."

lol

Other than hyperactive imaginative reporters making sh!t up, what proof is there?
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Dude it’s so obvious. First he lets Putin fly nuke bombers into the country and he’s just like w/e because they are bff. THEN Putin was like I don’t want to invade this country, you do it and Trump was like omg yes boss. THEN Trump leaves the Marines to die at the embassy so he has justification to invade, which remember was Putin’s idea. THEN after we conquer them we leave so Russia can have the oil.

Do I need to draw you a picture?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Odd that sources don't matter about Trump, but they are the gospel on here about Obama. Hmm.
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Wait...did you just pull the "but OBAMA!" card?

But please go ahead and point to where I used unverified or unnamed sources in anything I opposed Obama on.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Wait...did you just pull the "but OBAMA!" card?

But please go ahead and point to where I used unverified or unnamed sources in anything I opposed Obama on.
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Yeah, I pulled the but Obama card, because you know what I said was true. No, I don't have sources for your stance on anything, much less President Obama.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Yeah, I pulled the but Obama card, because you know what I said was true. No, I don't have sources for your stance on anything, much less President Obama.
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So, accuse me of doing something with no proof and I have to take your word for it?
 
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luthervol said:
Much like our system only more equitable and efficient with much lower per capita costs and less financial devastation to families during their times of greatest difficulty.
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lol no.

you clearly have not looked at any of the socialized programs.

They all have "death panels". when you face your greatest difficulty they just cut you off.

and you can't just look at what they pay out for health care, you have to look at the insane taxes too. FAR higher.
 
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Mick said:
You want to take his voting rights because you don't like his opinion?
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It's too early for me to have to break down things Sesame Street style for you. Perhaps later when I get more coffee in me.
 
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luthervol said:
Easy to see to which side of the generational gap you fall. The son had been paying the mortgage for the past 15 years with the expressed agreement that the house would remain in the family. He also knew that many of the appliance were fire hazards due to age, that the cabinets where at risk of falling and injuring his mom, and that the leaking pipes caused a slipping hazard, His mom was just to old and stuck in the past to see.
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you are making a really bad comparison.

Its not the son making the decisions. some outsider is coming in and telling him what he needs. without asking him. without checking to see what was there, or needed, or wanted. the outsider came in, made a whole bunch of changes that just made things worse, left a bunch of stuff half finished, didn't fix any of the real problems, and left the son with cost that far exceeded what was promised.

and oh yeah, the brothers and sisters that the one brother shares control of the house with were not involved in the conversation either. so its not just the mom that got shafted.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Should I check the news in Florida to see the massive 80 car pileup on the Interstate?

Your point that you refused to make yesterday. The one why Trump should have gone to war with Russia for landing a bomber in the proverbial backyard. You really were not making sense. Not like that's a foreign concept to you...
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Oh, okay, just a continuation of the same discussion.

1) I never said we should go to war over Russia sending a couple of bombers to Venezuela.

2) I do, however, think he should say SOMETHING firm about it and take low level action to prevent it from happening again.

3) What I would not expect is for him to countermand sanctions, work to undo sanctions, constantly favor policies and actions which help Russia and that Russia wants, and slow down and block sanctions from Congress.


This has been going on for two years. Linkage to the campaign has been proven repeatedly. Trump has demonstrably lied about it many times. Trump has been proven to have lied about his business dealings with them. He authored fraudulent press release about a meeting concenring it. Trump takes extraordinary action to prevent people from learning what he and Putin talk about.

When are you going to wake up and admit that there is something rotten in Denmark with this guy?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Oh, okay, just a continuation of the same discussion.

1) I never said we should go to war over Russia sending a couple of bombers to Venezuela.

2) I do, however, think he should say SOMETHING firm about it and take low level action to prevent it from happening again.

3) What I would not expect is for him to countermand sanctions, work to undo sanctions, constantly favor policies and actions which help Russia and that Russia wants, and slow down and block sanctions from Congress.

This has been going on for two years. Linkage to the campaign has been proven repeatedly. Trump has demonstrably lied about it many times. Trump has been proven to have lied about his business dealings with them. He authored fraudulent press release about a meeting concenring it. Trump takes extraordinary action to prevent people from learning what he and Putin talk about.

When are you going to wake up and admit that there is something rotten in Denmark with this guy?
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So, specifically what should he say?

"Look, I understand you are two sovereign nations that have worked this out already, but dangit! This is MY backyard and you can't do that!"

And prevent it how...?
 
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