Very upsetting performance & lack of execution. Out matched all over the field.

[allstar34bd]

Ummm, OSU had 26 rushes and 33 passes against Michigan. They have 26 rushes and 29 passes tonight. Only difference is Michigan didn't come out looking like a middle school JV team that's never played the game before.

We are going to get roasted from the media after getting curb stomped by big10. There’s another ball hitting the hands of a wr, but the ball wasn’t caught of course.

 

[GulfCoasterVol]

Hello off season!!!

 

[GulfCoasterVol]

We are a baseball school anyway.

 

[VolTom1]

Can’t use the UM game. That’s a huge rivalry game. It’s like the iron bowl. This huge rivalry games are unpredictable. It’s talent and coaching. OSU had VASTLY more talent than we do.

I'm not using the UM game, I'm using the entire program Jim built with less talent and won a natty. Coaching and player development is more important than talent. Player talent is an excuse to defend poor coaching and poor staff hires, its lazy. Yes it comes into play if the gap is large enough, but we should never get blow out by Ohio State if the coaches were doing their jobs.

 

[Lankykong]

That comes down to player development. How did Michigan build a program that could do it with less or equal talent. Look at all the talent UGA had before Kirby and they could not win the big games at all. Talent is not even 30% or the issue.

If player development was that big, teams with fewer 5 stars would win more often. How often do teams like Indiana do well? And Cignetti was the coach of the year and a good coach at a lower level. People want an easy fix of just fire the coach but at the top level it’s a combination with the majority being talent when you are blown out

 

[allstar34bd]

That comes down to player development. How did Michigan build a program that could do it with less or equal talent. Look at all the talent UGA had before Kirby and they could not win the big games at all. Talent is not even 30% or the issue.

Why are you deep throating Michigan?
Recruiting rankings over the last 6 years

• 2024: 15th
• 2023: 17th
• 2022: 9th
• 2021: 13th
• 2020: 10th
• 2019: 8th

 

[bullman64]

Nico better hire 2 tackles or he isnt going to live to enjoy that money

 

[volnbama_]

So how did Michigan win a natty last year is "talent" is everything. Wake up, Josh and his staff are more to blame than talent.

It took years of Harbaugh failing before getting over the hump

 

[Volbrando]

Wrong

Where am I wrong. What did we do like Michigan did to win?

 

[LibertyVol]

Nico is part of the problem. At this point he is not a good QB.

It is not his fault. No time to throw and no one is open. Heupel is not the answer. Not sure who is. Tennessee was overrated.

 

[J C Higgins]

I am not upset. I knew we would lose. I didn’t expect to get blown out like this. But this is what happens when you have a team that has VASTLY more talent than the other. It is what it is.

Agree. I didn’t think we would win but didn’t expect we would lose this badly.
Outmanned at every position and over rated all year.

 

[VolForLife83]

This is extremely embarrassing and something has to change. We have squeaked by all season long… 1,000 of you can say “we are 10-3, you don’t know football” “you negavols are blaaaah blah”…

We aren’t just out coached. We are out talented at every position on the field. Our WR’s and OL are dog water. We are NOT a playoff team, records are deceiving and that has been proven 3 times today. Nico gets ZERO help from the line and his receivers. He’s not given the opportunity to build confidence.

Are the underclassmen this bad? Do we really have to run out a limping squirrel white and a hurt Thornton? Brazzel is terrible. Dayne Davis and Lampley???


M. Matthews and McCoy will enter the portal before Christmas is my guess.

But, but, but we'll never have to worry about offense under Heupel.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Ohio State’s backup quarterback is in the game. That is all you need to know.

 

[Lankykong]

I'm not using the UM game, I'm using the entire program Jim built with less talent and won a natty. Coaching and player development is more important than talent. Player talent is an excuse to defend poor coaching and poor staff hires, its lazy. Yes it comes into play if the gap is large enough, but we should never get blow out by Ohio State if the coaches were doing their jobs.

Jim Harbaugh had a lot of talent. Michigan was more talented relative to competition than we are this year. Where you have talent matters a lot as well, and he had experience at QB too

 

[VolTom1]

Why don’t teams like James Madison ever win championships? If you have a roster full of NFL players and they actually try, you win. Coaching matters on the edges when people are total idiots like Ohio State is every year in their Michigan game.

Michigan lost a lot of players from last year’s team, it’s not all coaching.

Talent gap plays a role to a degree, but its not the issue with Tennessee here, its coaching not fixing the issues, not developing players, not calling the right plays. not being prepared. Tennessee actually on paper improved in talent from last year, but played poor in nearly every SEC game to start except the UGA game. If you improve in talent and play the same or worse then coaching is the issue.

 

[allstar34bd]

Talent gap plays a role to a degree, but its not the issue with Tennessee here, its coaching not fixing the issues, not developing players, not calling the right plays. not being prepared. Tennessee actually on paper improved in talent from last year, but played poor in nearly every SEC game to start except the UGA game. If you improve in talent and play the same or worse then coaching is the issue.

What play are you calling to stop the OSU WRs? Prevent? We were out matched at every position. This is not team USA hockey Miracle on Ice. We got stomped. Without Sampson we are toast. With Sampson we lose by 20 maybe?

 

[Lankykong]

Talent gap plays a role to a degree, but its not the issue with Tennessee here, its coaching not fixing the issues, not developing players, not calling the right plays. not being prepared. Tennessee actually on paper improved in talent from last year, but played poor in nearly every SEC game to start except the UGA game. If you improve in talent and play the same or worse then coaching is the issue.

If you look at composites on 247 we were at the same position overall or slightly lower ranked relatively. Ohio State is easily in the top 3 and on another level

 

[VolTom1]

Why are you deep throating Michigan?
Recruiting rankings over the last 6 years

• 2024: 15th
• 2023: 17th
• 2022: 9th
• 2021: 13th
• 2020: 10th
• 2019: 8th

Why are you deep throating Josh? Did you not watch the games this year when we lost to a bad Arkansas team? Nearly lost to Florida? We played poorly in nearly every SEC game. We have looked worse or the same every year now since 2022, WITH more Talent! Why is that? It has to be coaching. You think doing a RB pitch on 3 and 7 to come out at the half was a good call? Do you think the inability to run the ball without Sampson might have something to do with bad OL coaching? Do you think that inability to get open down field might come down to poor WR development? Nah its just a talent gap, that's why our 2022 team with LESS talent was better than this one.

 

[LibertyVol]

What play are you calling to stop the OSU WRs? Prevent? We were out matched at every position. This is not team USA hockey Miracle on Ice. We got stomped. Without Sampson we are toast. With Sampson we lose by 20 maybe?

Sampson laid down. He knew Tennessee was beat. He is gone.

 

[VolTom1]

If you look at composites on 247 we were at the same position overall or slightly lower ranked relatively. Ohio State is easily in the top 3 and on another level

I agree they have more talent, but that's not why we got blown out, the talent gap is not THAT big. We have more talent than Indiana... this is coaching, talent is just an excuse for poor player development aka poor coaching. Why are we playing worse than we did in 2022 with more talent? Its because we are not developing that talent, which comes down to coaching.

 

[allstar34bd]

Why are you deep throating Josh? Did you not watch the games this year when we lost to a bad Arkansas team? Nearly lost to Florida? We played poorly in nearly every SEC game. We have looked worse or the same every year now since 2022, WITH more Talent! Why is that? It has to be coaching. You think doing a RB pitch on 3 and 7 to come out at the half was a good call? Do you think the inability to run the ball without Sampson might have something to do with bad OL coaching? Do you think that inability to get open down field might come down to poor WR development? Nah its just a talent gap, that's why our 2022 team with LESS talent was better than this one.

2022 was a better team. Now you’ve proved you’re just a dumbass. 2022 would have ran 2024 off the field.

 

[OrangeInKy]

It took years of Harbaugh failing before getting over the hump

They were actually starting to turn in him

 

[barknoxbrawler]

It is not his fault. No time to throw and no one is open. Heupel is not the answer. Not sure who is. Tennessee was overrated.

No o line. No receivers.

It’s coaching. 10 wins is great but when you get out coached when it matters, what does it matter?

 

[allstar34bd]

I agree they have more talent, but that's not why we got blown out, the talent gap is not THAT big. We have more talent than Indiana... this is coaching, talent is just an excuse for poor player development aka poor coaching. Why are we playing worse than we did in 2022 with more talent? Its because we are not developing that talent, which comes down to coaching.

 

[Lankykong]

Why are you deep throating Josh? Did you not watch the games this year when we lost to a bad Arkansas team? Nearly lost to Florida? We played poorly in nearly every SEC game. We have looked worse or the same every year now since 2022, WITH more Talent! Why is that? It has to be coaching. You think doing a RB pitch on 3 and 7 to come out at the half was a good call? Do you think the inability to run the ball without Sampson might have something to do with bad OL coaching? Do you think that inability to get open down field might come down to poor WR development? Nah its just a talent gap, that's why our 2022 team with LESS talent was better than this one.

It seems like you’re admitting that Sampson (talent) matters here and then ignoring that to focus on coaching. We were using our third string RB for a lot of this game

I agree they have more talent, but that's not why we got blown out, the talent gap is not THAT big. We have more talent than Indiana... this is coaching, talent is just an excuse for poor player development aka poor coaching. Why are we playing worse than we did in 2022 with more talent? Its because we are not developing that talent, which comes down to coaching.

The way we play the game is conducive to getting blown out, so I agree it’s coaching that got us blown out versus just losing gracefully. You don’t get extra points for losing by 20 and never being competitive, so might as well be risky and lose by 30. It seems obvious this game would be a loss with any coach for UT with the same roster in the same position here.