View: There is a generational war looming in the GOP

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gavol said:
compare what happens here to a parliamentary system with its fractured interests. People complain about partisanship but ultimately i think the compromises that get forced by a 2 party system are part of what has helped us grow government and screw individual liberty.
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fyp

They don't compromise to reduce their power.
 
#53
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Vol_4_Life said:
Yeah, only voters in the rural South would vote along racial lines. If you believe that you are a fool.
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I know for a fact that many of my close friends from the rural outskirts of Chattanooga would not vote for a black man. And every single one of them are Republican. I also know quite a few from my time at Tennessee. There's idiots on both sides of the table. Many African Americans only voted Obama because he was black. The results of losing those votes in Tennessee would be negligible in the big picture.

EDIT: Just reread your post. You are right, it does happen everywhere. I'm just speaking from where I believe it's most prevelant.
 
#54
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Weezy said:
I can't wait to see the droves of rednecks in the rural South refuse to vote.
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Want to bet? JC Watts won his redneck OK district with about 90%. Rednecks in SC elected a black rep this past cycle.

FWIW, most of the truly ignorant "rednecks in the rural south" I know... and I probably know many more than you do... pull a straight Dem ticket without caring one bit about who is on it. Daddy voted D. Grandaddy voted D. In fact like the Hatfields and McCoys, no one remembers why. It is just what "we" do.

My first experience voting sheds some light. It was a 90% Dem county... had been since the Civil War. The guy who taught me to use the machine said: "Flip this lever down (straight Dem) then pull this handle". He was very disappointed that I figured the machine out myself and split my ticket.
 
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JayVols said:
Are you that myopic to believe that the right doesn't engage in propaganda? The righties arguing with the lefties; the lefties arguing with the righties, all the while both sides view their chosen group to be above the fray and beyond reproach. 2 truths here: 1. Neither side is better than the other in this propaganda argument. 2. People believe (incorrectly, I might add) that their 'side' doesn't engage in the 'other sides'' dirty tactics.

Folks they are the same animal, direction doesn't matter a dime. Either side will say or do most anything for the sake of gaining/keeping power. They are politicians; they are hardwired to engage in 'unsavory' acts to perpetuate their species.
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No. The "right" engages in politics.... they just don't have 90% of the so called "main stream media" helping them. I think the imbalance in the media is one of the biggest reasons we can't have honest conversations about important issues.
 
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JayVols said:
It is a sybiotic relationship. One party would not exist without the other. As much as they like to hurl stones at each other, they actually need each other.
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The biggest differences between the Dems and establishment GOP are the methods and pace at which they want to fleece the people of their rights and property.
 
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sjt18 said:
FWIW, most of the truly ignorant "rednecks in the rural south" I know... and I probably know many more than you do... pull a straight Dem ticket without caring one bit about who is on it. Daddy voted D. Grandaddy voted D. In fact like the Hatfields and McCoys, no one remembers why. It is just what "we" do.
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The exact same thing could be said of the GOP. And while I can't know how many rednecks you are familiar with, I'm related to quite a few and know many more who would never vote for a black canidate no matter how qualified he or she was. I don't agree with it but it is a reality. And also not limited to the South.
 
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#63
Wasn't even close in Tennessee, and that's where I'm speaking from. And also, this isn't the highly populated areas. So maybe I shouldn't have stressed the droves, because the impact might be negligible. But I would like to see an African American win the GOP primary just so I can hear them backtrack into "both parties are stupid" to avoid the obvious racism. And no, I'm not saying GOPers are racist, just a lot of the people I know in rural Tennessee.

edit: And the Southern Democrat hasn't existed since the 70s. Something to with "State's rights."
 
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CSVol said:
The exact same thing could be said of the GOP. And while I can't know how many rednecks you are familiar with, I'm related to quite a few and know many more who would never vote for a black canidate no matter how qualified he or she was. I don't agree with it but it is a reality. And also not limited to the South.
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redneck - a glorious absence of sophistication.

Jeff Foxworthy
 
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sjt18 said:
No. The "right" engages in politics.... they just don't have 90% of the so called "main stream media" helping them. I think the imbalance in the media is one of the biggest reasons we can't have honest conversations about important issues.
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And no way it's the fault of political ideologues (from both sides) like you that will not stop the demagoguery of others' views in order to shout their own "truths", ad nauseam., huh? Or whenever someone, of any political ilk, simply calls ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING someone of a differing ilk says idiotic because 'they' support it. guess that has nothing to do with it either.

You are blinded, gone the way of gs, if you point out splinters in others' eyes while ignoring the plank in your own. If semantics and blaming a boogeyman for perceived injustices make you feel better, have at it. The Dems play the victim card well, too. If you really feel that the GOP doesnt engage in propoganda just like the Dems, you see only what you want and are oblivious to reality. Thanks for sharing your true beliefs. I now know to never take you seriously.
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droski said:
so your point is what? more black people means you hate them more? racist statement IMO.
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My original point, if you can read, was that there will always be a large segment of people in this part of the country that will never vote for a black canidate regardless of qualifications or party affiliation. I am not one of them.

If the "you" in your post was used in the general sense, ok. If you're calling me a racist, go F yourself.
 
#73
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CSVol said:
My original point, if you can read, was that there will always be a large segment of people in this part of the country that will never vote for a black canidate regardless of qualifications or party affiliation. I am not one of them.

If the "you" in your post was used in the general sense, ok. If you're calling me a racist, go F yourself.
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define large segment?

seems racist that you are correlating % of black people to racism.
 
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droski said:
define large segment?

I can't explain something you can never understand.

seems racist that you are correlating % of black people to racism.
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I would say that areas with larger interaction between races tend toward racism on all sides. Keep trying to make me out to be racist.
 
#75
#75
seems like a lot of white people in the south voted for him:

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