Vince Young

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I was just sitting at work watching ESPN and on the bottom line they showed something about an interview he done on a radio show in Nashville where he said when asked of winning the starting job back from Kerry Collins "If they aren't ready for me to play ball, I'm sure someone is"...If that's the way he feels he might as well pack his bags now because he won't be Collins out for the starting job...If he really does want out that bad I say good riddance:rock2:
 
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Unfortunetely for Vince, "drama queen" isn't a desirable characteristic for NFL teams looking for a starter. The Titans should pray that Young's agent could actually find a team willing to trade for him and his contract.
 
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Oh leave him be at this point. If he's not starting, he should get just as much attention as the other backups - say john kitna or leinart - at this point.

As for what he said, I do think it was supposed to be a kind of "if they want to go in a different direction, I'm willing to go to a different team and it'll be ok" statement, but he as a speaker is really bad with words, and I mean just awful based off past statements...
 
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dickens821 said:
Titans need to cut their losses, trade VY away, and draft a QB next season.
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Unfortunately, this won't happen. While it would work in say madden, his contract has too much money in it the upcoming year for anyone to take him in a trade the next season. What will probably happen is he'll get cut at the season's end.

The problem becomes drafting a new qb the next year. Odds are the titans are drafting deep into the draft and the main good ones - bradford, mccoy, snead, clausen (debatable as far as good on that one) - will be gone, leaving the titans having to develop someone late, most likely which would take a few years...which begs one to wonder just how much longer kerry collins has left as well
 
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Get rid of him. We're just lucky he didn't set this franchise back five years like many first round flop qb's have.
 
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Out of the 3 top rated QBs that year, Cutler is the only one that is doing anything.

Titans need to trade him. He's not worth what they pay him.
 
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funny how his fire to be starter and making significant contributions comes off as drama queen and whiner to people. What do you want him to say? yeah, I just want to sit the bench and play with clipboards and headphones?
 
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volfanbill said:
funny how his fire to be starter and making significant contributions comes off as drama queen and whiner to people. What do you want him to say? yeah, I just want to sit the bench and play with clipboards and headphones?
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That's what I was thinking. I think it is a bit early to write him off completely, as well.
 
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tnvolsfan85 said:
Out of the 3 top rated QBs that year, Cutler is the only one that is doing anything.

Titans need to trade him. He's not worth what they pay him.
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I would imagine few if any team would for him trade with the amount of money he is getting paid.
 
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JZVOL said:
I disagree. Anyone that can't beat out an old Kerry Collins should be written off.
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A Collins type qb is just a better fit for this team than a VY. The Titans offense does best when they have a game manager behind center. The Titans need a young qb who will not try and do too much and is comfortable in the role they ask of him. Young is simply not that type of guy.
 
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KB5252 said:
A Collins type qb is just a better fit for this team than a VY. The Titans offense does best when they have a game manager behind center. The Titans need a young qb who will not try and do too much and is comfortable in the role they ask of him. Young is simply not that type of guy.
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I don't disagree but what type of qb is VY? He doesn't manage a game, he isn't Mike Vick or even a young Randall Cunningham, and isn't a pocket passer.
 
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JZVOL said:
I don't disagree but what type of qb is VY? He doesn't manage a game, he isn't Mike Vick or even a young Randall Cunningham, and isn't a pocket passer.
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Young has a decent arm but lacks control (If he had been taught better mechanics in college he would be a better passer today), his decision making skills are lacking. He is a threat to pull the ball up and run, his running style is deceptive and he can lull a defender to sleep and create the room he needs to get by.

all in all he is really a hybrid type qb, somewhere between a Vick style qb and a passer. His biggest knock is he doesn't seem to have it between the ears to be a solid starter at this point.
 
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KB5252 said:
A Collins type qb is just a better fit for this team the NFL than a VY.
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As a Falcons fan, watching this drama play out in Nashville is like watching a bad movie that you've seen before so even the ending is ruined for you. The dogfighting thing probably turned out to be a good thing, long-term, because it let the team rip the bandage off and start over. You guys will probably have to play this out to the bitter end.

Young's probably a better passer than Vick, simply by virtue of being half a foot taller, but he still doesn't seem to be good enough to just stand back there and play QB when his team needs him to. And the way NFL offenses are designed, if your QB can't do that, then you can't win.

I'm not going to say it's impossible for one of these guys to win consistently in the NFL, but it's going to require a much more dramatic overhaul of the pro offense than any team has yet been willing to attempt.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As a Falcons fan, watching this drama play out in Nashville is like watching a bad movie that you've seen before so even the ending is ruined for you.

Young's probably a better passer than Vick, simply by virtue of being half a foot taller, but he still doesn't seem to be good enough to just stand back there and play QB when his team needs him to. And the way NFL offenses are designed, if your QB can't do that, then you can't win.

I'm not going to say it's impossible for one of these guys to win consistently in the NFL, but it's going to require a much more dramatic overhaul of the pro offense than any team has yet been willing to attempt.
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Here is the rub between Vick and Young. I believe Vick was one of those guys who was going to do this his way, or rather that he was unwilling to learn to learn to sit back and manage a game like a more traditional qb. I think Vince's problem is he has been unable to learn how to play this role.
 
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KB5252 said:
Here is the rub between Vick and Young. I believe Vick was one of those guys who was going to do this his way, or rather that he was unwilling to learn to learn to sit back and manage a game like a more traditional qb. I think Vince's problem is he has been unable to learn how to play this role.
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VY has more than one problem...
 
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JZVOL said:
VY has more than one problem...
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I agree to an extent here, but if he could wrap his head around the game and the role he needs to play as qb then the other problems he has would be minimized.
 
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KB5252 said:
Here is the rub between Vick and Young. I believe Vick was one of those guys who was going to do this his way, or rather that he was unwilling to learn to learn to sit back and manage a game like a more traditional qb. I think Vince's problem is he has been unable to learn how to play this role.
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Vick is supposed to be 5' 10" or maybe even shorter. I don't know that he could ever have been a good pocket passer even if he'd had a great attitude. There's a reason NFL teams almost never draft QBs who are under 6 feet.

Either way, you can't win in the NFL if you don't have a QB who can drop back on 3rd and long in obvious passing situations, read the coverage, and make first-down throws without throwing interceptions half the time. If you can't do that, you can't play QB in the NFL, regardless of whatever else you bring to the table.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Vick is supposed to be 5' 10" or maybe even shorter. I don't know that he could ever have been a good pocket passer even if he'd had a great attitude. There's a reason NFL teams almost never draft QBs who are under 6 feet.

Either way, you can't win in the NFL if you don't have a QB who can drop back on 3rd and long in obvious passing situations, read the coverage, and make first-down throws without throwing interceptions half the time. If you can't do that, you can't play QB in the NFL, regardless of whatever else you bring to the table.
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This is one of many reasons i don't believe Young has enough between the ears to be a good qb. I know for a fact that the offensive staff tried to work with him over the course of the past few years and he has not been receptive to this help.
 
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Boy ESPN is making a much bigger deal out of this thing than it actually is. They've put up 2-3 segments per hourly show, brought in dilfer for 2 segments, and have put up a poll about how many games young is starting....and NFL live hasn't even come on yet

anyone else feel like they're milking this?
 
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TrueOrange said:
Boy ESPN is making a much bigger deal out of this thing than it actually is. They've put up 2-3 segments per hourly show, brought in dilfer for 2 segments, and have put up a poll about how many games young is starting....and NFL live hasn't even come on yet

anyone else feel like they're milking this?
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Ten hours of time to fill plus 20-30 minutes of actual material means that you end up having to milk every little thing for what it's worth. Same phenomenon as the cable politics shows. Whatever it is, the issue of the day gets absolutely beaten into the ground, and then two days later it's forgotten while they've moved onto whatever's next.
 
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volfanbill said:
funny how his fire to be starter and making significant contributions comes off as drama queen and whiner to people. What do you want him to say? yeah, I just want to sit the bench and play with clipboards and headphones?
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Why does it have to go from one extreme to another? A simple, "I expect to be the starter," minus the "or some other team will want me" talk would have probably worked better for him.
 
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