Violent racism alive and well in the South

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sjt18 said:
If it can be shown that these thugs that killed the black man in your OP have black friends or positive relationships with other races... would that negate the charge of racism?
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Probably not since the avowed purpose of their trip was to beat a black person up and then they were bragging about beating and then running over a "n****."
 
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lawgator1 said:
There are a number of people who regularly post in the politics forum who think that claims of racism are always overblown or exaggerated. They like to portray racism as a non-factor in our every day lives, and our politics. They decry affirmative action as unnecessary and as a pure government hand out. They are dismissive of claims of racism as apologizing for the lack of progress of blacks as their own damn fault.

From time to time they need to be reminded that it is still very much an issue.
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Not all claims of racism are overblown . . . But yours tend to be.
 
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LG typically i'm a fan but this doesn't remotely suprise me anymore. After the some of the stories my granddad has told me, this is pretty tame for racists. You know as well as I, the majority of white people aren't like this. It is a sad thing that we still live in a world where people hate you for skin pigmentation.
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JZVOL said:
First of all, they tortured them, burned them, raped (both) them, shot them

"Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire."

She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.


Just another crime of passion with no motivation, right?
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I see nothing in your post pointing to a racial motivation.
 
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ToineMac said:
LG typically i'm a fan but this doesn't remotely suprise me anymore. After the some of the stories my granddad has told me, this is pretty tame for racists. You know as well as I, the majority of white people aren't like this. It is a sad thing that we still live in a world where people hate you for skin pigmentation.
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Most would never act on racial motives, be it characterized as resentment or outright hatred. The latter can cause what we see here.

The former is far more subtle and explains a lot of what is going on in politics today, imo.
 
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#33
LG is just try to distract himself from the recent Obama poll numbers which have him only winning 11 states
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
LG is just try to distract himself from the recent Obama poll numbers which have him only winning 11 states
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Obama is in big trouble, no doubt about it.

But I think frankly basically every incumbent who has been there longer than 2010 elections is in big trouble.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There are a number of people who regularly post in the politics forum who think that claims of racism are always overblown or exaggerated. They like to portray racism as a non-factor in our every day lives, and our politics. They decry affirmative action as unnecessary and as a pure government hand out. They are dismissive of claims of racism as apologizing for the lack of progress of blacks as their own damn fault.

From time to time they need to be reminded that it is still very much an issue.
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i believe racism exists. i am not a big believer in affirmative action.

affirmative action does not do anything to solve the two biggest problems (IMO) in the black community right now.

1. it does not do a thing about the high school drop out rate.

2. it does not do a thing to help the illegitimacy rate or teenage pregnancy.

IMO, the biggest racists in america are the black leaders (the sharpton's and jackson's) of this country who have sold out their own people to line their own pockets to be pacified by the power structure of the democrat party.

they are great when the police do something wrong. they are on the scene when incidents like the one in the original post happen. they get their name in the paper when critical of not enough diversity in hollywood, television and nascar.

but, going into the ghetto and actualy making a difference......nowhere to be found.

JMO
 
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99gator said:
i believe racism exists. i am not a big believer in affirmative action.

affirmative action does not do anything to solve the two biggest problems (IMO) in the black community right now.

1. it does not do a thing about the high school drop out rate.

2. it does not do a thing to help the illegitimacy rate or teenage pregnancy.

IMO, the biggest racists in america are the black leaders (the sharpton's and jackson's) of this country who have sold out their own people to line their own pockets to be pacified by the power structure of the democrat party.

they are great when the police do something wrong. they are on the scene when incidents like the one in the original post happen. they get their name in the paper when critical of not enough diversity in hollywood, television and nascar.

but, going into the ghetto and actualy making a difference......nowhere to be found.

JMO
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As I have said repeatedly on here, both Sharpton and Jackson are race-baiting jackarses in my view.
 
#46
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99gator said:
i believe racism exists. i am not a big believer in affirmative action.

affirmative action does not do anything to solve the two biggest problems (IMO) in the black community right now.

1. it does not do a thing about the high school drop out rate.

2. it does not do a thing to help the illegitimacy rate or teenage pregnancy.

IMO, the biggest racists in america are the black leaders (the sharpton's and jackson's) of this country who have sold out their own people to line their own pockets to be pacified by the power structure of the democrat party.

they are great when the police do something wrong. they are on the scene when incidents like the one in the original post happen. they get their name in the paper when critical of not enough diversity in hollywood, television and nascar.

but, going into the ghetto and actualy making a difference......nowhere to be found.

JMO
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That's what i hate most about those two. There are real issues with real solutions in the black community that need to be solved and the most prominent black leaders are off dancing a jig for political gain.
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ToineMac said:
That's what i hate most about those two. There are real issues with real solutions in the black community that need to be solved and the most prominent black leaders are off dancing a jig for political gain.
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That had to be on purpose.
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lawgator1 said:
Most would never act on racial motives, be it characterized as resentment or outright hatred. The latter can cause what we see here.

The former is far more subtle and explains a lot of what is going on in politics today, imo.
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This.... is why YOU are the racist/race-baiter. Regardless of your "opinion", there is no link between racism and believing in small, limited gov't. There is nothing racist about actually believing MLK's words about people not being judged by the color of their skin and expecting public policy to be truly color blind.

YOU are the one stoking the entitlement mentality that is a major contributor to the antagonism between whites and blacks. You DEMAND that people are entitled to the wealth of others that they did not earn then rationalize when people (poor regardless of color but primarily minorities) take "redistribution" into their own hands... but condemn when those paying complain. YOU on the left are the ones who are promoting the notion that a failure to give favoritism or to expect EQUAL responsibility and accountability from everyone is an "attack" on blacks. YOU are the one constantly assigning racial motives where none exist.
 
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sjt18 said:
This.... is why YOU are the racist/race-baiter. Regardless of your "opinion", there is no link between racism and believing in small, limited gov't. There is nothing racist about actually believing MLK's words about people not being judged by the color of their skin and expecting public policy to be truly color blind.

YOU are the one stoking the entitlement mentality that is a major contributor to the antagonism between whites and blacks. You DEMAND that people are entitled to the wealth of others that they did not earn then rationalize when people (poor regardless of color but primarily minorities) take "redistribution" into their own hands... but condemn when those paying complain. YOU on the left are the ones who are promoting the notion that a failure to give favoritism or to expect EQUAL responsibility and accountability from everyone is an "attack" on blacks. YOU are the one constantly assigning racial motives where none exist.
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Though we don't agree on all policy - this is one thing we agree on. :hi:
 
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#50
JTrainDavis said:
LG making isolated horrible incidents out to be the norm again.
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You're right, no one likes to stir the pot on race
issues like ACLG.

I read about the following on Thursday night or early
Friday morning and decided to pass on it.

State Fair melees produce 11 injuries, 31 arrests - JSOnline

Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (620) that dozens to hundreds of young black people were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a spokeswoman for the fair, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

"It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people," Norb Roffers of Wind Lake told WTMJ. He said he left the State Fair entrance near the corner of S. 84th St. and W. Schlinger Ave. in West Allis.

One eyewitness, a concession worker who works near the midway area, told the Journal Sentinel that large groups of African-American youths ran through the midway area, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting midway rides and tearing signs up.
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"I've never seen anything like this in my life. There were hundreds - like 200 to 300 would be my guess. It wasn't like 10 or 20.
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The man described the crowd gathered around the fight as African-American, predominantly male and mainly 15- to 20-year-olds.
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The fair incidents are similar to mob-like disturbances that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend in Milwaukee.

About 60 young people beat and robbed a smaller group that had been watching fireworks from Kilbourn Reservoir Park. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said.

Another group looted a convenience store at a gas station at the corner E. North Ave. and N. Humboldt Blvd.

The incidents Thursday night come as the State Fair board over the last decade has worked to increase diversity at the annual fair, expanding its entertainment lineup and marketing to appeal to a younger, more multicultural audience. Diversity was a priority for State Fair Park Chairman Martin Greenberg, who spoke often of making it "truly the people's park" - a "place of inclusion, not exclusion."

Thursday night's Main Stage performer was rapper MC Hammer, .........
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The first account I read in which authorities were trying
to play down the racial nature of the incident, an
interview with an Iraq veteran was included.

He said that a dozen or so oung blacks beat on his
car and tried to break into it while he and his wife
were sitting in traffic but a black couple in the car
next to his were passed up and not molested.

Say cheese LG!
 
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