Vol uniform/helmet design discussion (merged)

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#8,805
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I'm o.k. with something like this, I just don't want Addidas to get into the ugly @$$ uniform war going on between Nike and Underarmour. Some of that stuff is ok. Most of it's fugly.
 
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One day the young will become old and at that point and time they will have a better understanding and appreciation about the value of tradition. There are numerous teams that have stayed with traditional uniforms and it has had zero impact on the effectiveness of their recruiting.
 
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GmanTN said:
One day the young will become old and at that point and time they will have a better understanding and appreciation about the value of tradition. There are numerous teams that have stayed with traditional uniforms and it has had zero impact on the effectiveness of their recruiting.
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I agree with your point about uniform changes not really having an effect on recruiting. I do think the team should get their swag back first and have a winning season first, but your point about tradition is not completely accurate. Those were one of the first unis for UT. You can't get more traditional than going back to your roots. IIRC, the first couple of versions of UTs unis were black with brown pants. Now, if we were to go to purple with pink polka dots, that would be breaking from tradition. Not having a uni that is a redo of one of the first ones.
 
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Caleb said:
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Undercover brother! Love that movie!
 
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tatud4life said:
I agree with your point about uniform changes not really having an effect on recruiting. I do think the team should get their swag back first and have a winning season first, but your point about tradition is not completely accurate. Those were one of the first unis for UT. You can't get more traditional than going back to your roots. IIRC, the first couple of versions of UTs unis were black with brown pants. Now, if we were to go to purple with pink polka dots, that would be breaking from tradition. Not having a uni that is a redo of one of the first ones.
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Playing in the south in the heat and the sun in a black uni is a recipe for dehydration and heat stroke.
 
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GmanTN said:
Playing in the south in the heat and the sun in a black uni is a recipe for dehydration and heat stroke.
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I think anything like this would be reserved for something like the NCSU game in a dome. Not for UF in mid Sept.
 
#8,812
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I seriously doubt having a (special) black uni for an indoor game would matter to the opposing team and would probably view it as laughable...Oh look at the Vols they are wearing a black uni to try to motivate them against us, lets go out and punch them in the mouth and squash that idea quickly.
 
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tatud4life said:
I agree with your point about uniform changes not really having an effect on recruiting. I do think the team should get their swag back first and have a winning season first, but your point about tradition is not completely accurate. Those were one of the first unis for UT. You can't get more traditional than going back to your roots. IIRC, the first couple of versions of UTs unis were black with brown pants. Now, if we were to go to purple with pink polka dots, that would be breaking from tradition. Not having a uni that is a redo of one of the first ones.
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The very first thing is not always the best. We could say it is tradition to have slaves because that is what this country first did. Using the argument that wearing black is "tradition" just because it is the first thing is not true, either.
 
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I heard where Penn State was changing uniforms to further distance themselves from the Joe Pa era.Joe was against names on jerseys. I'm all for the primary colors and the power T but the design needs to change now and then.
 
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GmanTN said:
I seriously doubt having a (special) black uni for an indoor game would matter to the opposing team and would probably view it as laughable...Oh look at the Vols they are wearing a black uni to try to motivate them against us, lets go out and punch them in the mouth and squash that idea quickly.
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Aren't these special uni combos reserved for games like that or bowl games? That was my point.

I don't think the uni has that big of an effect either. I remember ND came out in green during after halftime against USC one year. I don't recall if it helped or not.
 
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someone decides to use a particular uniform style in a certain year and that becomes the "tradition" that must be followed in every future year?? why is that?
 
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VolsRule said:
someone decides to use a particular uniform style in a certain year and that becomes the "tradition" that must be followed in every future year?? why is that?
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Ask the Dickeys, and Neyland's family, and Majors, etc to understand that. The point of consistent uniforms is to have a recognizable trademark. The Orange and white does just that. I don't get why uniforms are such a big deal. If players HAVE to have a new uniform just to get pumped up, there is a problem.
 
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hibbs said:
Saw where Nebraska is getting a special uniform setup for their game against Wisconsin this year. Shows that Adidas is willing to do it, and Nebraska has just as much tradition as UT so that argument shouldn't fly.
Would be nice to breathe some fresh air into the program.
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Wrong. Those special uniforms Nebraska is wearing are an embarrassment on multiple levels. First of all, Nebraska has one of the best uniforms in all of college football, and to replace it, even for one week with that garbage is pathetic. Secondly, it looks like almost a stitch for stitch knockoff of the throwbacks Michigan wore last season. This lack of innovation and originality is one of the main reasons I hated the black uniforms at UT so much. As opposed to wearing the traditional UT look, which is uniquely ours, we simply fell in line with a trend and became roughly the 500th school in the US to wear a black jersey.
 
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I'm still hate the black outline on the away jerseys. I remember the week that was announced in 1994 before the South Carolina game. The radio shows lit up! There was one particular caller that I'll never forget. He said, "There's 2 traditions that have now left UT...winning and the Big Orange."

The winning part because UT had lost to UCLA, UF, Miss St., and Bama already that year.

That was 18 years ago and there's a large portion of our younger fan base that only know UT's away jerseys with the black outline. So does the black outline represent "tradition" after 18 years? To some maybe, others not.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Nike couldn't have gotten Stokes custom color shoes overnight, either.

If you're cool with the UTAD taking millions of dollars less from Nike than what Adidas offers, that's fine. But I'd rather my school do what is financially best for it.
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I love Adidas more now.But they would benefit from some nice alternative Jerseys sold in stores.
 
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GmanTN said:
One day the young will become old and at that point and time they will have a better understanding and appreciation about the value of tradition. There are numerous teams that have stayed with traditional uniforms and it has had zero impact on the effectiveness of their recruiting.
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Especially Alabama, Auburn, USC, Texas, Oklahoma. Those are not gimmick programs and are still winning.

What you do not realize it that we were doing the same that you are doing 30 years ago. The program stuck with tradition and we had one of the greatest runs ever for the program in the 90's. The good news is that you will probably grow up some day and appreciate the traditions that are UT Football. When we look back on the MOD generation of the 70's and 80's it looks pretty dorky now just like these juvenile suggestions of today.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I'm still hate the black outline on the away jerseys. I remember the week that was announced in 1994 before the South Carolina game. The radio shows lit up! There was one particular caller that I'll never forget. He said, "There's 2 traditions that have now left UT...winning and the Big Orange."

The winning part because UT had lost to UCLA, UF, Miss St., and Bama already that year.

That was 18 years ago and there's a large portion of our younger fan base that only know UT's away jerseys with the black outline. So does the black outline represent "tradition" after 18 years? To some maybe, others not.
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I don't care for the black outline too much either
 
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onevol74 said:
Especially Alabama, Auburn, USC, Texas, Oklahoma. Those are not gimmick programs and are still winning.

What you do not realize it that we were doing the same that you are doing 30 years ago. The program stuck with tradition and we had one of the greatest runs ever for the program in the 90's. The good news is that you will probably grow up some day and appreciate the traditions that are UT Football. When we look back on the MOD generation of the 70's and 80's it looks pretty dorky now just like these juvenile suggestions of today.
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???? We have changed unis several times in the last 30 years. The Unis we wear now are not traditional. People on here are crazy about the unis. They do help with recruits and image. We need some alternates.
 
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