Vols Basically Killing Each Other in Practice According to Rucker.

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dknash said:
People are upset because the team is trying hard in practice? That's next level.

Does a physical practice necessarily prevent the team from working on any halfcourt offense elements? If offensive concepts were ever going to click for this group, wouldn't that have happened already? How does this even register in the first place given the omnipresent off-court and on-court flaws of this team?
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A positive practice report would be something like this: "The team worked almost exclusively at the offensive end at getting more movement, cutting with a purpose, setting effective screens."
 
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StepCross said:
No, people are cynical because they don't think "trying hard in practice" is the magical solution to this team's problems.
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100% correct. Obviously practicing hard is good. I'm just afraid we're not addressing our problem areas.
 
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I just hope the coaches and players, have learned from all the late second half losses from this season and can use that experience to improve our play in the final minutes.

It's go time.
 
#30
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StepCross said:
No, people are cynical because they don't think "trying hard in practice" is the magical solution to this team's problems.
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It freaking blows that a "day of trying hard" warrants mention. Seems to me it should be the rule rather than the exception.
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#32
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LawVol13 said:
Good approach. Fighting in practice will certainly help out the half-court offense.
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That's what happens when you have five 4 star players on the scout team. Everyone wants playing time and everybody is going to practice harder because of it. Just because you have high intensity practice doesn't mean you aren't also working on your half court offense...
 
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Sudeepvol said:
That's what happens when you have five 4 star players on the scout team. Everyone wants playing time and everybody is going to practice harder because of it. Just because you have high intensity practice doesn't mean you aren't also working on your half court offense...
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If they're working on their half-court offense and it continues to look as bad as it does, what does that say?
 
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cotton said:
Has anybody figured out why we have five 4 star players on the scout team while non-productive walk-ons are getting minutes?
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And, not only that, is it really that competitive? Do these kids really think, "Hey, we have played basically none these first 30 games this season, but if we practice hard, our playing time is sure to increase?"
 
#37
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LawVol13 said:
A positive practice report would be something like this: "The team worked almost exclusively at the offensive end at getting more movement, cutting with a purpose, setting effective screens."
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I would hope they're working on that stuff too. I'm not really holding my breath for a magic last-week practice session to turn this team into a juggernaut, though.

Fair point on giving effort every practice, although I'm not sure Rucker's tweets necessarily indicate a lack of intensity in the other practices.
 
#38
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dknash said:
Fair point on giving effort every practice, although I'm not sure Rucker's tweets necessarily indicate a lack of intensity in the other practices.
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the play on the floor indicates that.
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#39
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dknash said:
I would hope they're working on that stuff too. I'm not really holding my breath for a magic last-week practice session to turn this team into a juggernaut, though.
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I'd just like to see us improve to the point where we just could consider ourselves bad.
 
#40
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cotton said:
Has anybody figured out why we have five 4 star players on the scout team while non-productive walk-ons are getting minutes?
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Because HS and aau ball isn't college ball, among other reasons. Guys like Kenny Hall may have run into 1 or 2 other guys his height and size his sr year. A 6'6 Mcrae is probably unstoppable in his HS division, but is just another athlete on the college floor.
 
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pl3 said:
Because HS and aau ball isn't college ball, among other reasons. Guys like Kenny Hall may have run into 1 or 2 other guys his height and size his sr year. A 6'6 Mcrae is probably unstoppable in his HS division, but is just another athlete on the college floor.
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Recruiting has to take a hit if we're just getting guys incapable at this level, no?
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#43
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BigPapaVol said:
Recruiting has to take a hit if we're just getting guys incapable at this level, no?
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You don't know until they get on campus, outside of the top 15-20 recruits. There are 3 and 4 star players on the benches of many teams. Doesn't mean they can't be coached up, but it takes time for most and correcting bad habits (aau) doesn't happen overnight, especially if they've been playing the same way for years.
 
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pl3 said:
You don't know until they get on campus, outside of the top 15-20 recruits. There are 3 and 4 star players on the benches of many teams. Doesn't mean they can't be coached up, but it takes time for most and correcting bad habits (aau) doesn't happen overnight, especially if they've been playing the same way for years.
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Isn't everything you're describing just part of the evaluation process? The bottomline is this: either Pearl can't develop the players he gets or he sucks at evaluating players.
 
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pl3 said:
Because HS and aau ball isn't college ball, among other reasons. Guys like Kenny Hall may have run into 1 or 2 other guys his height and size his sr year. A 6'6 Mcrae is probably unstoppable in his HS division, but is just another athlete on the college floor.
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If the big, athletic, highly touted guys coming in keep losing out to small, less athletic walk-ons that aren't producing, I can only think of three reasons why. Either we recruited poorly, we haven't developed the players we recruited, or we have the wrong guys on the floor.

None of those options speak very well towards the coaches.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Isn't everything you're describing just part of the evaluation process? The bottomline is this: either Pearl can't develop the players he gets or he sucks at evaluating players.
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Yes on the first question, but all coaches miss on players. Re part 2, asst coaches do most evaluating, but it's still his decision. He still has won a lot of games though, LV, so he has been doing something right. He can't be a terrible game coach, be terrible at developing and evaluating players and win as many games at UT as he has.
 
#48
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pl3 said:
Yes on the first question, but all coaches miss on players. Re part 2, asst coaches do most evaluating, but it's still his decision. He still has won a lot of games though, LV, so he has been doing something right. He can't be a terrible game coach, be terrible at developing and evaluating players and win as many games at UT as he has.
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I don't think he's a terrible game coach, and I don't think he's a bad recruiter. I do think he really struggles developing what he has. And most of that is because of the offensive system, or lack thereof, that we run.
 
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cotton said:
If the big, athletic, highly touted guys coming in keep losing out to small, less athletic walk-ons that aren't producing, I can only think of three reasons why. Either we recruited poorly, we haven't developed the players we recruited, or we have the wrong guys on the floor.

None of those options speak very well towards the coaches.
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There's a big difference between being 18 and 21-22, mentally and physically. They are just freshmen, outside of Hall. They'll be fine.
 
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pl3 said:
There's a big difference between being 18 and 21-22, mentally and physically. They are just freshmen, outside of Hall. They'll be fine.
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I wasn't aware that Woolridge and Maymon invoked the "Reverse Eligibility" rule. It still doesn't change the fact that the guys who were supposed to be contributing aren't while walk-ons get their minutes.
 
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