Vols 'can point to' NFL draft return in recruiting

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davethevol said:
I hope that's the real reason, that he was booted. Otherwise you have to wonder if something's mentally off.
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He may have quit but I think he knew he was going to get booted.

Personally I believe what LWS theorized to be true. Butch gave him a choice. Dismissed for a violation of team rules or transferring. He chose to say he was transferring.

He will declare for the draft soon imo.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Im not so sure about that. If he was evaluated by NFL scouts and with his situation was given a poor grade due to quitting. Going somewhere and trying to rebuild his reputation might be the best thing for his chance of making a roster. If he sits a year and builds his character back and works on speed some more and has a good season he could climb back into relevance on some NFL teams boards.
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I'm saying his original decision to leave the team with 4 games left and two months before he could declare for the draft was the bad decision.
 
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kmkemp11 said:
You guys are crazy. A former 5 star player that was very productive in college isn't going undrafted. "Quitting" will hurt him a little but he will definitely be taken.
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Very productive? Not very in comparison to other collegiate running backs. 3.7 yards per carry this year, about 4.5 for his career....just doesn't translate imo. Size is an issue, not enough burst, not enough balance, not enough speed....I don't see it. Jmo.
 
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If Hurd declares for the NFL draft, and gets invited to the combine with his size and speed, he could easily elevate his stock and get drafted second or third round regardless of the fact that he quit the team this past season.
 
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Believe there was a player's meeting and Hurd was urged by the players to leave after refusing to go in during the South Carolina game.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Barnett, Dobbs, Kamara, Sutton, Malone are locks to be drafted. JRM should be but in worried about injury hurting him. Still can see him taking mid rds if his shoulder checks out. Hurd despite being a loser will get drafted but NT sure we can claim him now.

Vereen, Croom and Foreman have an outside shot at later rounds.

If Weisman didn't have so many injuries that will look bad during physical he would get drafted. He will be udfa.
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Weisman and Vereen have a shot in the 7th round. Who knows, one of them might end up being "Mr. Irrelevant!"

I can't see Foreman getting drafted, but I couldn't envision Coleman playing for the Patriots either.
 
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KBVol said:
Very productive? Not very in comparison to other collegiate running backs. 3.7 yards per carry this year, about 4.5 for his career....just doesn't translate imo. Size is an issue, not enough burst, not enough balance, not enough speed....I don't see it. Jmo.
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He's a faster quicker Eddie George. Thats catches like a WR.

He will play for a while and make a lot of money.
 
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gunner said:
If Hurd declares for the NFL draft, and gets invited to the combine with his size and speed, he could easily elevate his stock and get drafted second or third round regardless of the fact that he quit the team this past season.
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2nd round talent

He'll get drafted in the 4th.

He'll test well. But most teams won't see him as a primary back in todays NFL

He'll fall because of that.
 
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walkenvol said:
How many carries did Hurd have at UT? What's his longest gain? Hurd simply doesn't have the speed or elusiveness to be an NFL RB. If he did, then he would have had several long TD runs during his college career.

On top of this, he added the questions concerning his commitment and desire. UDFA at best, but he doesn't stick.

Update:
589 carries for 2638 total yards at 4.48 average ypc.
In 2016 only 1 carry for >20 yards (28 vs Ohio).
Can anyone name another NFL RB who played significant college ball with an average ypc under 4.5?
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Some of the unreal narratives that are being said are crazy. Hurd is built for an NFL system. They will not run stretch plays but run him tackle to tackle and those long runs you spk of rarely happen on Sundays. He was not built for this offensive system, then you had the OLine issues, and lack of respect for the passing attack that took away from his effectiveness.
 
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de1conley said:
Some of the unreal narratives that are being said are crazy. Hurd is built for an NFL system. They will not run stretch plays but run him tackle to tackle and those long runs you spk of rarely happen on Sundays. He was not built for this offensive system, then you had the OLine issues, and lack of respect for the passing attack that took away from his effectiveness.
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Not trying to argue here, but I've read several of your posts concerning Gray and others where you've stated that top prospects ball out at the lower level using that as a knock against the recruits. Why does this narrative change when going from college to the NFL?

You may be right and Hurd has a productive NFL career, but you have to concede there are lots of question marks surrounding him beyond the bizarre mid season meltdown. No one can review his game film at UT and not question his speed as there's no way he's a 4.3 as advertised. His vision is also in question. In college he was a really large RB who could pick up yardage after the collision. He won't have the same size advantage in the NFL and his lack of speed will hurt him even more.

I'm not a Hurd hater although I fail to comprehend how he managed to sabotage his UT career so close to the end. He's young and either got bad advise or refused to follow the good advise provided. I wish him well, but count me as highly surprised if he has a successful stint in the NFL. I'll be highly surprised if he's drafted in the first 5 rounds and I don't expect him to be drafted at all. Whatever his physical talents may be, they're not enough to overcome his college body of work along with the questions concerning his UT exit.
 
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The market for RB's of Jalen's size isn't huge, but he is a great overall athlete who has proven at the college level to be productive and durable. Other than whatever incidents led up to him leaving UT (which very well might have been lying by our coaching staff), he had a spotless public record at UT. There were no reports that I can remember of him being a diva or anything like that. The NFL will interview many people around UT's program, I'm sure, but it would be strange if he got poor reports considering the lack of public incidents. He's simply a very talented athlete that probably played out of position at UT and lashed out when coaches didn't run the offense in a way that maximizes his abilities. I doubt the NFL will care about the incident itself very much. He's a great athlete who is willing to try out a new position and could play in short yardage situations immediately at RB.
 
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davethevol said:
I think the same. I hope he hasn't had a brain injury that just hasn't been diagnosed. No one quits halfway through a season like that.
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I don't know what you guys have heard but I have a friend on the team and believe am somewhat knowledgeable about football... Studying to become a coach so I have been studying for about three months... Anyways Hurd wasn't running up to par like he (could) so after the fumble on the goalline at Georgia Coach Jones came up to him and yelled like any coach would do..... Because they specifically watch tape on finishing across the endzone. He did not. Hurd after getting yelled at told Butch Jones, "FU&@ you, you need me." At which time he got pulled and is the reason why he did not play at Texas A&M. I think he got more chances later in the season and did not produce... Coaching staff assuming on purpose. The statement he released are some what truthful and somewhat false. He was mad about the injury report because it changed so much (three times) I think.


The moral of the story is that you can act like that when your putting up historic numbers in College Football... Atleast Tennessee Historic numbers... But when your play doesn't match your attitude then you quickly become useless.... I have heard some disgruntled rumors about the status of the team (relationship with coaching staff) some of it is true a lot of it is not... Not winning means no one is happy... Comes with competition. However, I apologize for the many grammatical errors I have amassed but I just wanted to clear some stuff up....

Thanks guys don't berate me too much please.
 
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LittleVol said:
He's a faster quicker Eddie George. Thats catches like a WR.

He will play for a while and make a lot of money.
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Agree that he catches like a WR, think that's his best skill. Never was much of an Eddie George fan, so that means little to me. Not particularly impressed with either. I think Jalen got some poor feedback from some scouts about his NFL running back prospects, which is why he announced his plans to change positions. Jmo.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This.

Jalen Hurd will be a great RB in the NFL.

Only his poor decision making can cost him a successful and lucrative career.
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Lol. At least you now have what you think is a viable excuse when he's not drafted high nor has even a decent NFL career at running back.
 
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KBVol said:
Agree that he catches like a WR, think that's his best skill. Never was much of an Eddie George fan, so that means little to me. Not particularly impressed with either. I think Jalen got some poor feedback from some scouts about his NFL running back prospects, which is why he announced his plans to change positions. Jmo.
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I guarantee you he won't change positions.

Eddie was never spectacular in NFL.
But very consistent. Worked hard.

Hurd has a little better talent but not as tough.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Excited for the draft this year. Won't be able to negative recruit on this point anymore. Wonder if Vereen gets drafted
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Yeah now it goes to look at all the talent at Tennessee that Butch has wasted.

Sadly opposing coaches aren't in short supply on stuff to negative recruit us on currently.
 
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Volst53 said:
Yeah now it goes to look at all the talent at Tennessee that Butch has wasted.

Sadly opposing coaches aren't in short supply on stuff to negative recruit us on currently.
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That's the spirit!
 
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bignewt said:
*troll-like behavior...watch it
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If you don't wallow around in the filth with the negas then you are either a sheep or a troll. It's ok. I'd rather be an optimistic troll sheep than be as miserable as they are ALLLLL the dang time.
 
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glichtenwalter said:
If you don't wallow around in the filth with the negas then you are either a sheep or a troll. It's ok. I'd rather be an optimistic troll sheep than be as miserable as they are ALLLLL the dang time.
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I don't think I'm doing either one. I think Butch is a hard worker that put in the work to fix Dooley just clocking in during his tenure.

He's just sadly in over his depth, and treading water now.
 
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