Vols crack Katz's top-25

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#26
etsuvol13 said:
With him having Indiana at one, isn't cracking the top 25 on his list a lot like taking a cousin to the prom? I mean it's a date, but that doesn't really count.
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Indiana is going to be loaded. If everyone returns they are a Top 5 team for sure. Plus they have 3 Elite 5-star caliber players coming in. Jeremy Hollowell is probably the most underated prospect in the '12 class. He should absolutely be a Top 15 kid. And Farrell and Perea are definite Top 10 talents.

Also, can anyone post Katz's entire Top 25? I cannot access ESPN's website. Thanks!
 
#27
#27
bleedingTNorange said:
IMO this rivalry game crap is BS.

It's going to count against our conference record and standings, so should we play UK, Vandy, UF each twice, while other teams play the crap SEC teams twice? It makes no sense, it makes us finishing in the top 4 and receiving a bye that much harder than most of the other teams in the SEC.

To me the SEC scheduling should be done fair and to me that's not even remotely close to fair. Play all 15 teams and rotate home/away with 3 different teams each year, not that complicated I don't think and it really is the fairest way IMO.
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I'm not going to get all worked up until I see something come out of the coaches meetings. I wouldn't be shocked if the 1st season is a 16 game season and we play UK And Vandy plus 1 random team twice and everyone else just once. That would let every team get their feet wet with the new 14 team league and honor any contracts for games already scheduled. However, eventually they will have to go to at least a 18 game schedule. Playing everyone basically only once each isn't much of a conference.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Indiana is going to be loaded. If everyone returns they are a Top 5 team for sure. Plus they have 3 Elite 5-star caliber players coming in. Jeremy Hollowell is probably the most underated prospect in the '12 class. He should absolutely be a Top 15 kid. And Farrell and Perea are definite Top 10 talents.

Also, can anyone post Katz's entire Top 25? I cannot access ESPN's website. Thanks!
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1. Indiana
2. Louisville
3. Kansas
4. Kentucky
5. Ohio State
6. NC State
7. Michigan State
8.Michigan
9. Florida
10. Baylor
11. North Carolina
12. Arizona
13. Memphis
14. Syracuse
15. Duke
16. Texas
17. Notre Dame
18. Creighton
19. Gonzaga
20. Kansas State
21. Wisconsin
22. VCU
23. Sandiego State
24. Tennessee
25. Missouri

Fifteen more on the cusp: Cincinnati, UNLV, Pittsburgh, Alabama, UCLA, Florida State, Stanford, Saint Louis, Marquette, Maryland, New Mexico, Butler, Saint Mary's, Xavier, Nevada.
 
#33
#33
Call me a hater but I think UK is too high even with his reasoning. Hes saying even with most these guys leaving, and missing on Muhammad and Noels they deserve this ranking, personally I'd disagree.
 
#34
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bleedingTNorange said:
Call me a hater but I think UK is too high even with his reasoning. Hes saying even with most these guys leaving, and missing on Muhammad and Noels they deserve this ranking, personally I'd disagree.
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If they missed out on both, I wouldn't have UK cracking the Top 10, but that's just me. Either one would shoot them up into the Top 2 or 3, though.

If Beal by some chance comes back, then Florida would shoot up the rankings as well. If they got Anthony Bennett, then they'd go up even further.
 
#35
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GatorsGators said:
If they missed out on both, I wouldn't have UK cracking the Top 10, but that's just me. Either one would shoot them up into the Top 2 or 3, though.

If Beal by some chance comes back, then Florida would shoot up the rankings as well. If they got Anthony Bennett, then they'd go up even further.
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That's also my opinion on UK. Miss on both between 10-15, land 1 5-10, land both top 3. Jmo
 
#36
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's also my opinion on UK. Miss on both between 10-15, land 1 5-10, land both top 3. Jmo
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The UK high ranking is about Calipari. He has put together 4 straight amazing seasons. He reloads every year. And now he has figured out how to win the big game. I hate to say it, but I think Calipari has earned the benefit of the doubt until he has a bad season. But until that bad season, he is always going to be pre-season top 5.

Edit: Make that 6 out of the last 7 seasons. 3 elite 8, 1 final 4, a Championship loss, and a Championship. Pretty good stuff when the sweet 16 is your down year.
 
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#37
#37
Or until the **** hits the fan when a horse-money booster is caught dropping dimes in the wrong cookie jar.
 
#41
#41
zansdad said:
The UK high ranking is about Calipari. He has put together 4 straight amazing seasons. He reloads every year. And now he has figured out how to win the big game. I hate to say it, but I think Calipari has earned the benefit of the doubt until he has a bad season. But until that bad season, he is always going to be pre-season top 5.

Edit: Make that 6 out of the last 7 seasons. 3 elite 8, 1 final 4, a Championship loss, and a Championship. Pretty good stuff when the sweet 16 is your down year.
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Coach k, and Izzo arent given that same treatment, Infact Izzos team wasn't even ranked pre season this year.

I get what you're though, the thing is that he's done that with crazy takented teams. If he were to miss on Noel's and Muhammad I don't know that next years team is at the talent level he's accustomed to. Jmo.
 
#42
#42
I think UK lands Noel, but misses on Muhummad. Shabazz is headed to UCLA with Tony Parker, IMO.

UK will be younger than ever next season, with no juniors or seniors to speak of. (He's aways had at least one senior, I believe.)

With Noel, plus the rest of this year's class, I'm not sure that's a top 10 team. They'll be good, and much better in march than November, but top 10 is pushing it.
 
#43
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vol2013 said:
1. Indiana
2. Louisville
3. Kansas
4. Kentucky
5. Ohio State
6. NC State
7. Michigan State
8.Michigan
9. Florida
10. Baylor
11. North Carolina
12. Arizona
13. Memphis
14. Syracuse
15. Duke
16. Texas
17. Notre Dame
18. Creighton
19. Gonzaga
20. Kansas State
21. Wisconsin
22. VCU
23. Sandiego State
24. Tennessee
25. Missouri

Fifteen more on the cusp: Cincinnati, UNLV, Pittsburgh, Alabama, UCLA, Florida State, Stanford, Saint Louis, Marquette, Maryland, New Mexico, Butler, Saint Mary's, Xavier, Nevada.
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If this holds up, the SEC is going to be a very good conference next year.
 
#44
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Yea I'm curious about that...he has always had Patterson, Stevens, then liggins and Harrelson, and this year miller. Very interested how his teams react with no upper classmen.
 
#46
#46
Solid from Katz. Missouri obviously exploded to the top but besides that, he was close.
 
#47
#47
Shaun1985 said:
Solid from Katz. Missouri obviously exploded to the top but besides that, he was close.
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He was way off on quite a few teams, honestly.

Texas
Uconn
Arizona
Memphis
Bama (close-ish)
George Mason (left field on that one)
UCLA
Pittsburgh
Texas A&M

No Baylor.
 
#48
#48
MemphisCanes said:
He was way off on quite a few teams, honestly.

Texas
Uconn
Arizona
Memphis
Bama (close-ish)
George Mason (left field on that one)
UCLA
Pittsburgh
Texas A&M

No Baylor.
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Oops. lol. My fault. I'm at work so I looked over the list too fast. I still think Memphis, Bama, and Zona were good teams though. Clearly missed the rankings but I still dont' understand how he'd figure UCONN was going to be that good when they pretty much lost what drove them through the BE and NCAAT. Also, didn't Baylor's recruiting pretty much blow up after these were released?
 
#49
#49
MemphisCanes said:
He was way off on quite a few teams, honestly.

Texas
Uconn
Arizona
Memphis
Bama (close-ish)
George Mason (left field on that one)
UCLA
Pittsburgh
Texas A&M

No Baylor.
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He hit on 24 of 30 making the field (if I figured correctly). Predicting a top 25 this early, before the draft declarations and the later signing date, isn't as easy as you imply.
 
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TennTom said:
He hit on 24 of 30 making the field (if I figured correctly). Predicting a top 25 this early, before the draft declarations and the later signing date, isn't as easy as you imply.
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Just from first glance, UCLA, Pitt and George Mason didn't make the dance, so I'm not sure how he got 24 in the field.

Also, no one said it was easy. I'm just saying he was pretty far off.
 
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