Vols crack Katz's top-25

#76
#76
bleedingTNorange said:
Yea I just edited my post, I don't get that.

Don't you have to graduate to be eligible for that? Has he graduated?

And doesn't he still have to get a waiver to play immediately?
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May as well not worry about it. I hate to complain about this kind of stuff, but the NCAA and Big East are clearly trying to bend the rules. Why not just axe all the pointless and arbitrary rules?? If Oriahki joins an SEC school, it will be big-time BS.
 
#77
#77
Chris4Vols22 said:
May as well not worry about it. I hate to complain about this kind of stuff, but the NCAA and Big East are clearly trying to bend the rules. Why not just axe all the pointless and arbitrary rules?? If Oriahki joins an SEC school, it will be big-time BS.
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My feelings exactly. If Slime actually meant this rule he'd stand up for it and put an end to this oriakhi talk. However, he's seeing green after UKs ship and is gonna try and help them out I'm sure.

As you said, Oriakhi comes to the SEC that's major BS!
 
#78
#78
Chris4Vols22 said:
May as well not worry about it. I hate to complain about this kind of stuff, but the NCAA and Big East are clearly trying to bend the rules. Why not just axe all the pointless and arbitrary rules?? If Oriahki joins an SEC school, it will be big-time BS.
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What's to complain about? This means UT could recruit him if they wanted.

Also, I don't see how this is the Big East bending the rules. Looks like it's UF/UK bending the SEC's rule.
 
#79
#79
MemphisCanes said:
What's to complain about? This means UT could recruit him if they wanted.

Also, I don't see how this is the Big East bending the rules. Looks like it's UF/UK bending the SEC's rule.
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I meant SEC, not Big East.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to have Oriakhi, but it would be a lot cooler if the administrators would just stick to the rules they make.

Do you not see the flaw in that they just made this rule that would not allow Oriakhi to transfer to an SEC school, but they're already trying to break it? It's so stupid and twisted. Nothing good can come of this.
 
#80
#80
bleedingTNorange said:
IMO this rivalry game crap is BS.

It's going to count against our conference record and standings, so should we play UK, Vandy, UF each twice, while other teams play the crap SEC teams twice? It makes no sense, it makes us finishing in the top 4 and receiving a bye that much harder than most of the other teams in the SEC.

To me the SEC scheduling should be done fair and to me that's not even remotely close to fair. Play all 15 teams and rotate home/away with 3 different teams each year, not that complicated I don't think and it really is the fairest way IMO.
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Did I miss something? When did SEC expand to 15 teams?
 
#81
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PandamoniumReigns said:
Did I miss something? When did SEC expand to 15 teams?
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16 teams, but seeing as how you can't play yourself that's only 15 opposing teams.

Edit: my bad it's expanding from 12 to 14 not 14-16, my mind is shot haha. Same concept though, play all 13 teams once and rotate home/away with 3 different teams every 2 years.
 
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#83
#83
Chris4Vols22 said:
I meant SEC, not Big East.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to have Oriakhi, but it would be a lot cooler if the administrators would just stick to the rules they make.

Do you not see the flaw in that they just made this rule that would not allow Oriakhi to transfer to an SEC school, but they're already trying to break it? It's so stupid and twisted. Nothing good can come of this.
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Yeah, I agree. But if a loophole exists, Cal will find it and exploit it.

It's Slive's rul and he should put his foot down and enforce it, but UK just brought in a lot of dough. Dirty pool, but it's par for the course in college basketball.
 
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As I said I don't see him going there to be a backup so I'll gladly trade them having oriakhi for Noel's. I think he'll wanna go somewhere he can't start, like UNC & Ohio State who he's also interested in.
 
#85
#85
I'd see a starting 5 for UK next year as:

PG- Harrow (transfer from NC State, think that's his name)
SG- Goodwin
SF- Poythress (Maybe even Wiltjer here)
PF- Oriakhi
C- Noel

Cauley off the bench, who knows what other recruits they'll have by next season.
 
#86
#86
Wherever shabazz muhammad lands, he will instantly make that team a top 10 or maybe even a top 5 team. That guy was amazing in the MAA game
 
#87
#87
Chris4Vols22 said:
I meant SEC, not Big East.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to have Oriakhi, but it would be a lot cooler if the administrators would just stick to the rules they make.

Do you not see the flaw in that they just made this rule that would not allow Oriakhi to transfer to an SEC school, but they're already trying to break it? It's so stupid and twisted. Nothing good can come of this.
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This doesn't break the rule. The rule prohibits graduate students from coming into the SEC with one year of eligibility remaining... Oriahki isn't a graduate student. It's very gray, but it's not slimy imo.

If Oriakhi wanted playing time from an SEC school, he would go to Vanderbilt. They're going to be completely rebuilding next year, especially in the post. But, that ain't going to happen. He probably wouldn't start at Florida with Young coming back.
 
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GatorsGators said:
This doesn't break the rule. The rule prohibits graduate students from coming into the SEC with one year of eligibility remaining... Oriahki isn't a graduate student. It's very gray, but it's not slimy imo.

If Oriakhi wanted playing time from an SEC school, he would go to Vanderbilt. They're going to be completely rebuilding next year, especially in the post. But, that ain't going to happen. He probably wouldn't start at Florida with Young coming back.
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I have no idea where you're getting the graduate thing. You get 4 years of eligibility in the NCAA, no matter where you are academically. I tried to find the official rule, but this is the closest thing:

One issue with heading to the SEC: the conference doesn't allow one-year transfers without a special exemption. Could that be an impediment for Kentucky and Missouri? Not necessarily, according to CBSSports.com's Jeff Goodman, who tweets that "I've been told that Oriakhi will be able to play at SEC school if he chooses an area of study that is not offered at UConn." More good news for the Wildcats, who will lose just about everybody from their national championship team.
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Calipari to Meet With Oriakhi: Report | NBC Connecticut
 
#89
#89
So he needs a "special exemption," and I don't know what Oriakhi could possibly have that qualifies as such. The rule is simple, can't transfer to the SEC if you only have 1 remaining year. Barring something crazy, Oriakhi SHOULD have no chance of playing for UF, UK, or Vandy.
 
#90
#90
omghulkhands said:
Wherever shabazz muhammad lands, he will instantly make that team a top 10 or maybe even a top 5 team. That guy was amazing in the MAA game
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Muhummad and Tony Parker are getting a lot of heat from UCLA. I smell a rat here, because UCLA was horrible this season (although projected as a preseason top 10) and Howland appears to be on his last year as coach unless there is a drasti turnaround. How would they manage to pull 3 McD's AA in this class, and two in the lat signing period?

I get the feeling that there is a lot of $$$ pushing these two to go to Westwood and try to salvage the career of Howland and revitalize the UCLA program.
 
#91
#91
"I've been told that Oriakhi will be able to play at SEC school if he chooses an area of study that is not offered at UConn"

So I guess he can start a brand new degree program, then drop out after a year. What a joke. This comes no where near a "special exemption" in my eyes.
 
#93
#93
Slive came up with the no 1 year transfers after Ole Miss let Missoli(sp?) transfer in after being kicked off the Oregon football team. He had already graduated so they used the NCAA rule that lets a Grad school guy transfer if his post grad degree isn't offered by his current school. It was considered shady for Ole Miss to have done it this way and Slive made a move to stop it happening in the future.

The kid from UCONN can transfer, I believe, because UCONN is facing a post season ban next year. Same way Malik Jackson came to UT and didn't have to sit a year. I am not sure where all the "has to be a major that UCONN doesn't offer" stuff comes into play.

As for the rule and Slive breaking it. It is much easier to have a rule in place and grant exemptions from it than it is to have no rule in place and then arbitrarily try to tell someone "no" they can't transfer. Slive put the rule in place so in the future kids trying to hop schools because of suspensions or something similar, have to go elsewhere. However, they can give waivers when warranted.

If UT was tops on this guys list, we would all be for the waiver.
 
#95
#95
Chris4Vols22 said:
This may be true, but I would still acknowledge the hypocrisy, personally.
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I think Slive is in a tight spot. The Masoli thing sat poorly with many people. So Slive, in a knee jerk reaction, took steps to stop it from happening in the future. Now here comes Oriakhi and he has done nothing wrong and wants to transfer to a SEC school. I bet eventually Slive rescinds the rule and SEC schools go back to taking any eligible transfers.
 
#96
#96
Chris4Vols22 said:
I have no idea where you're getting the graduate thing. You get 4 years of eligibility in the NCAA, no matter where you are academically. I tried to find the official rule, but this is the closest thing:


Calipari to Meet With Oriakhi: Report | NBC Connecticut
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I've heard that the rule only applies to players who have already graduated, but still have one year of eligibility remaining. Oriakhi hasn't graduated yet. Maybe that's wrong, and my bad if it is, but I'm not sure if this new rule applies to him.

I'm not sure that Oriakhi is the answer to any school that is recruiting him, though. It's not like he's been a dominant force in the post the past couple of years.
 
#97
#97
Chris4Vols22 said:
I have no idea where you're getting the graduate thing. You get 4 years of eligibility in the NCAA, no matter where you are academically. I tried to find the official rule, but this is the closest thing:


Calipari to Meet With Oriakhi: Report | NBC Connecticut
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If you have finished a Bachelor's degree you can transfer and play immediately at another school as long as that school offers a grad degree program not offered at your current school. You have to have a year of eligibility left to do this. John Fields used it to come here. Woolridge is talking of using it. Greg Paulus even used this rule to play football at Syracuse after playing 4 years of Basketball at Duke.
 
#98
#98
zansdad said:
If you have finished a Bachelor's degree you can transfer and play immediately at another school as long as that school offers a grad degree program not offered at your current school. You have to have a year of eligibility left to do this. John Fields used it to come here. Woolridge is talking of using it. Greg Paulus even used this rule to play football at Syracuse after playing 4 years of Basketball at Duke.
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Right, this is a valid point, but I don't see how it applies to Oriakhi.
 
#99
#99
Chris4Vols22 said:
Right, this is a valid point, but I don't see how it applies to Oriakhi.
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Me either. It was my understanding that he was going to transfer because UCONN was going to be banned from post-season play next year and he was going to request a waiver to play immediately because of that.
 
#100
#100
zansdad said:
Me either. It was my understanding that he was going to transfer because UCONN was going to be banned from post-season play next year and he was going to request a waiver to play immediately because of that.
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Exactly.

However Slives rule doesn't say this type of situation deserves an exemption. In Slives words supposedly the only way is the "John fields" route.

So the whole, making a special expemtion thing is kinda BS in a lot of people's minds. Don't make a rule if a year later you're going to bend it.
 
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