Vols in NCAA with as a 13 seed

#51
#51
Yes.

Atleast 6 are being seriously considered, and I'd argue 7 will be discussed tomorrow atleast.

According to RPI we have been between the 3rd and 4th best conference this year. TIFWIW
 
#52
#52
Someone, post all of the possible bubble teams down. Then, everyone on here can critique each team and compare resumes.
 
#53
#53
Northwestern has no business making the tournament. I think Tennessee has a better shot than the wildcats. They finished 8-10 in the conference and then lost to a weak Minnesota team. They're not making it.

Exactly, but they are being "considered" by most. So to say Tennessee has no chance and won't even be considered is crazy IMO.
 
#55
#55
Yes.

Atleast 6 are being seriously considered, and I'd argue 7 will be discussed tomorrow atleast.

According to RPI we have been between the 3rd and 4th best conference this year. TIFWIW

As my daughter's Disney Princess wand says, "Dreams can come true."
 
#57
#57
The following teams are fighting for bubble bids:

1)South Florida
2)Texas
3)North Carolina State
4)Mississippi State
5)Seton Hall
6)Washington
7)Drexel
8)Miami
9)Marshall
10)Iona
11)Ole Miss
12)Massachusetts
13)Colorado
14)Dayton
15)Nevada

I tried to put all teams that will be discussed by the committee. These are the most likely teams that Tennessee has to deal with.
 
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#58
#58
How many added a 5* recruit mid season and finished as hot as Tennessee?

the problem is though, it doesn't completely erase the beginning of the season either.


I could get (and understand I'm not trying to yell or argue angrily here...nor insult) if this was all coming after beating Ole Miss but we lost to Vandy.

But by the ones we were even listed as "almost in", it was said we were going to at least need to win that first game and probably a second - to better support the "we're hot / playing well enough now" argument, and perhaps mainly to have something to outweigh the poor rpi, the really bad losses, and the awful record away from home



like i had said previously, i can understand you guys wanting to still have hope and keeping said hopes up...but now it sounds like it's just getting argued here that "this team should get in the tournament" and getting near that border lining area that seems to become "the system/committee is flawed/a joke if they don't"
 
#59
#59
The following teams are fighting for bubble bids:
1)South Florida
2)Texas
3)North Carolina State
4)Mississippi State
5)Seton Hall
6)Washington
7)Drexel
8)Miami
9)Marshall
10)Iona
11)Ole Miss
12)Massachusetts
13)Colorado
14)Dayton
15)Washington
16)Nevada

I tried to put these in order from best possible shots. These are the most likely 15 teams that Tennessee has to deal with.
Washington is there twice
 
#61
#61
I'd have to take NC State off of that list after the last few days. They won two in the ACC Tournament, beat a pretty good UVA team, and could have easily beaten UNC. They definitely looked like a tournament team.
 
#62
#62
I'd have to take NC State off of that list after the last few days. They won two in the ACC Tournament, beat a pretty good UVA team, and could have easily beaten UNC. They definitely looked like a tournament team.

I agree. I think both NC State and Texas should get in. They may take a bid from BYU. The Cougars may be 2011's version of Colorado, a team that everyone considers a lock, but the committee tears apart and finds flaws.
 
#63
#63
the problem is though, it doesn't completely erase the beginning of the season either.


I could get (and understand I'm not trying to yell or argue angrily here...nor insult) if this was all coming after beating Ole Miss but we lost to Vandy.

But by the ones we were even listed as "almost in", it was said we were going to at least need to win that first game and probably a second - to better support the "we're hot / playing well enough now" argument, and perhaps mainly to have something to outweigh the poor rpi, the really bad losses, and the awful record away from home



like i had said previously, i can understand you guys wanting to still have hope and keeping said hopes up...but now it sounds like it's just getting argued here that "this team should get in the tournament" and getting near that border lining area that seems to become "the system/committee is flawed/a joke if they don't"
Me personally no.

I don't expect a bid and if we don't get one will implement understand its our fault. It the committee.

I'm simply saying we do have a chance still, albeit a small one, but there is one IMO.
 
#64
#64
The following teams are fighting for bubble bids:

1)South Florida
2)Texas
3)North Carolina State
4)Mississippi State
5)Seton Hall
6)Washington
7)Drexel
8)Miami
9)Marshall
10)Iona
11)Ole Miss
12)Massachusetts
13)Colorado
14)Dayton
15)Nevada

I tried to put all teams that will be discussed by the committee. These are the most likely teams that Tennessee has to deal with.

According to Shawn seigel (sp?)

USF- out
Texas- in
NC State- in
Miss st- out
Seton hall- in
Washington- out
Drexel- out
Miami- out
Marshall- out
Iona- out
Ole miss- out
Umass- out
Colorado- out
Dayton- out
Nevada- out

TENNESSEE- IN



now out of those teams that are out, who can you point to and make an argument saying NO DOUBT this team should be in over TENNESSEE....
 
#66
#66
I'm not disputing that you shouldn't disregard the early part of the season, but shouldn't you reward teams that got better over the course of the season? Isn't that really what you aspire to do? Also, I had only seen Ole Miss play one other game this season, did they just play out of their minds? I've never seen so many balls hit off of the rim at odd angles and go in. I would think they could beat the crap out of a lot of teams with their "D". I also thought there were a lot of no-calls inside that somebody had to be fouled on, there was just too much contact.
 
#67
#67
I just don't see it happening. I'm not seeing many bracketologists giving Tennessee a shot. I feel that the selection committee looked at us and asked themselves "is this a team that will play well away from tba?" We are just better suited for the NIT this year.
 
#68
#68
I find it hard to believe that Tennessee would drop off his map like that. Marshall loses to an average Memphis team and somehow is still in the discussion. Tennessee loses to an average Ole Miss team and is no longer even in bubble consideration.

Watch a game sometime, young man. Marshall isn't as shabby as they seem. Wins over Cincy, Iona and Belmont.
 
#71
#71
I find it hard to believe that Tennessee would drop off his map like that. Marshall loses to an average Memphis team and somehow is still in the discussion. Tennessee loses to an average Ole Miss team and is no longer even in bubble consideration.

You mean the "average" Memphis team that beat us twice, once badly? Are we sure that this is the argument to help us get in?
 
#72
#72
According to Shawn seigel (sp?)

USF- out
Texas- in
NC State- in
Miss st- out
Seton hall- in
Washington- out
Drexel- out
Miami- out
Marshall- out
Iona- out
Ole miss- out
Umass- out
Colorado- out
Dayton- out
Nevada- out

TENNESSEE- IN



now out of those teams that are out, who can you point to and make an argument saying NO DOUBT this team should be in over TENNESSEE....

South Florida: RPI (44) SOS (24) Overall (20-13) Conference (12-6) Top 50 (1-10) Final 10 (7-3)

Mississippi State: RPI (73) SOS (82) Overall (21-11) Conference (8-8) Top 50 (4-5) Final 10 (4-6)

Washington: RPI (68) SOS (92) Overall (21-10) Conference (14-4) Top 50 (0-5) Final 10 (7-3)

Drexel: RPI (65) SOS (229) Overall (27-6) Conference(16-2) Top 50 (1-3) Final 10 (9-1)

Miami: RPI (59) SOS (40) Overall (19-12) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (2-9) Final 10 (5-5)

Marshall: RPI (39) SOS (23) Overall (19-12) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (4-5) Final 10 (7-3)

Iona: RPI (46) SOS (161) Overall (25-7) Conference (15-3) Top 50 (2-1) Final 10 (8-2)

Ole Miss: RPI (48) SOS (52) Overall (20-13) Conference (8-8) Top 50 (1-7) Final 10 (6-4)

UMass: RPI (75) SOS (123) Overall (22-11) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (3-2) Final 10 (5-5)

Colorado: RPI (70) SOS (88) Overall (22-11) Conference (11-7) Final 10 (6-4)

Dayton: RPI (80) SOS (72) Overall (20-12) Conference (9-7) Final 10 (6-4)

Nevada: RPI (63) SOS (171) Overall (26-6) Conference (13-1) Final 10 (7-3)
 
#73
#73
South Florida: RPI (44) SOS (24) Overall (20-13) Conference (12-6) Top 50 (1-10) Final 10 (7-3)

Mississippi State: RPI (73) SOS (82) Overall (21-11) Conference (8-8) Top 50 (4-5) Final 10 (4-6)

Washington: RPI (68) SOS (92) Overall (21-10) Conference (14-4) Top 50 (0-5) Final 10 (7-3)

Drexel: RPI (65) SOS (229) Overall (27-6) Conference(16-2) Top 50 (1-3) Final 10 (9-1)

Miami: RPI (59) SOS (40) Overall (19-12) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (2-9) Final 10 (5-5)

Marshall: RPI (39) SOS (23) Overall (19-12) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (4-5) Final 10 (7-3)

Iona: RPI (46) SOS (161) Overall (25-7) Conference (15-3) Top 50 (2-1) Final 10 (8-2)

Ole Miss: RPI (48) SOS (52) Overall (20-13) Conference (8-8) Top 50 (1-7) Final 10 (6-4)

UMass: RPI (75) SOS (123) Overall (22-11) Conference (9-7) Top 50 (3-2) Final 10 (5-5)

Colorado: RPI (70) SOS (88) Overall (22-11) Conference (11-7) Final 10 (6-4)

Dayton: RPI (80) SOS (72) Overall (20-12) Conference (9-7) Final 10 (6-4)

Nevada: RPI (63) SOS (171) Overall (26-6) Conference (13-1) Final 10 (7-3)

Hmmm. I'd dare to say Marshall is in.
 
#74
#74
Watch a game sometime, young man. Marshall isn't as shabby as they seem. Wins over Cincy, Iona and Belmont.

That's my point. Memphis and Ole Miss are comparable in some ways, with Memphis getting the edge. Why did Tennessee drop from the earth in an OT loss to Ole Miss, but Marshall gets trucked by Memphis and barely any fall?
 
#75
#75
You mean the "average" Memphis team that beat us twice, once badly? Are we sure that this is the argument to help us get in?

I've never felt like Tennessee should get in. However, the one argument they can use is the improvement they've had with the addition of Stokes. Basically, this means the committee needs to throw out everything pre-Stokes, including both Memphis games.
 

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