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Not for the whole season. We had one good game the whole year, that one. Even Georgia, was against a team that was depleted and not having a very good season.

Other than GA and SC, we've been obliterated by ever other good team on the schedule. I mean, we haven't even been remotely competitive. So, the season, taken as a whole, has been one of underachieving, not overachieving.

I mean I didn't expect to win maybe more than 6 games

And we've also lost to very highly ranked teams that are a lot better than us. I would say we did overachieve against UGA and USC. UGA was depleted but they still had Aaron Murray and a good defense.
 
And we've also lost to very highly ranked teams that are a lot better than us. I would say we did overachieve against UGA and USC. UGA was depleted but they still had Aaron Murray and a good defense.

Nobody expected us to necessarily do well in the win column, but there is NO EXCUSE for not showing improvement over Doofus' regime. Overall, because of the nature of our losses (non-competitive blowouts) we really haven't shown any improvement than what we were under Doofus. That's unacceptable and there is no excuse for it. No ifs, ands, or buts, PERIOD !

As for UGA, UGA did have Aaron Murray, but their backfield and receivers were depleted. And UGA's defense is very bad this year. Not as bad as ours, but bad nonetheless. By the way, even Doofus & Co. showed competitiveness against UGA and USC. So what we've done this year is not showing any real significant improvement, other than finally being able to finish 1 game against USC. Overall, were still the exact same crappy team we were under Doofus.
 
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Nobody expected us to necessarily do well in the win column, but there is NO EXCUSE for not showing improvement over Doofus' regime. Overall, because of the nature of our losses (non-competitive blowouts) we really haven't shown any improvement than what we were under Doofus. That's unacceptable and there is no excuse for it. No ifs, ands, or buts, PERIOD !

As for UGA, UGA did have Aaron Murray, but their backfield and receivers were depleted. And UGA's defense is very bad this year. Not as bad as ours, but bad nonetheless. By the way, even Doofus & Co. showed competitiveness against UGA and USC. So what we've done this year is not showings any real significant improvement, other than finally being able to finish 1 game against USC. Overall, were still the exact same crappy team we were under Doofus.
I know you're aware of this but . . . Butch has only been on campus about 10 months. This is going to take awhile.
 
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Nobody expected us to necessarily do well in the win column, but there is NO EXCUSE for not showing improvement over Doofus' regime. Overall, because of the nature of our losses (non-competitive blowouts) we really haven't shown any improvement than what we were under Doofus. That's unacceptable and there is no excuse for it. No ifs, ands, or buts, PERIOD !

As for UGA, UGA did have Aaron Murray, but their backfield and receivers were depleted. And UGA's defense is very bad this year. Not as bad as ours, but bad nonetheless. By the way, even Doofus & Co. showed competitiveness against UGA and USC. So what we've done this year is not showing any real significant improvement, other than finally being able to finish 1 game against USC. Overall, were still the exact same crappy team we were under Doofus.

you seem to forget we are playing a harder schedule...with less talent and depth...and will most likely end up with a better record. How is that not improvement?
 
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I know you're aware of this but . . . Butch has only been on campus about 10 months. This is going to take awhile.

That's no excuse for not being more competitive and at least showing a little improvement on the field from the Doofus regime.

Even Doofus was competitive with UGA and USC during his tenure. We are not the least bit improved on the field this year, over where we have been during the entire Dooley era.

Not showing at least a little on field imrpovement is UNACCEPTABLE, even with the mess Butch inherited. A really good coach gets his team to overachieve. We certainly haven't.
 
That's no excuse for not being more competitive and at least showing a little improvement on the field from the Doofus regime.

Even Doofus was competitive with UGA and USC during his tenure. We are not the least bit improved on the field this year, over where we have been during the entire Dooley era.

Not showing at least a little on field imrpovement is UNACCEPTABLE, even with the mess Butch inherited. A really good coach gets his team to overachieve. We certainly haven't.

In other words, excuses are unacceptable . . . unless it's you using an excuse to minimize our biggest win in 4 years.
 
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you seem to forget we are playing a harder schedule...with less talent and depth...and will most likely end up with a better record. How is that not improvement?

Oh the excuse makers are out in force !

We will likely not end up with a better record, and other than Oregon, we played most of the same teams we play every year.

By the way, it's not the record, it's the way we were beaten. We were obliterated in most games, other than UGA and USC. We did not show any competitive improvement over the Doofus regime. We did not show the slightest improvement on defense this year. That is what is unacceptable. Losing with the mess he inherited is understandable, not showing any competitive improvement over Dooley and Co., is not. PERIOD !
 
In other words, excuses are unacceptable . . . unless it's you using an excuse to minimize our biggest win in 4 years.

How is that win make us really any better than the Doofus regime? OK, so we eeked one out which is definitely a good thing, but even Doofus was a play or two away from several big wins over UGA, USC, and even LSU.

Looking at it from an overall standpoint, given the way we have been obliterated in most games against decent or good teams, no one in their right mind can objectively say we have shown any "on field" improvement over Dooley & Co. Our defense is the same piece of garbage that we watched under Dooley, and our offense, depleted of some talent has regressed.

All I am saying, is that it is disappointing that we haven't seen at least a little bit of improvement this year, but we really haven't when you look at things overall.
 
How is that win make us really any better than the Doofus regime? OK, so we eeked one out which is definitely a good thing, but even Doofus was a play or two away from several big wins over UGA, USC, and even LSU.

Looking at it from an overall standpoint, given the way we have been obliterated in most games against decent or good teams, no one in their right mind can objectively say we have shown any "on field" improvement over Dooley & Co. Our defense is the same piece of garbage that we watched under Dooley, and our offense, depleted of some talent has regressed.

All I am saying, is that it is disappointing that we haven't seen at least a little bit of improvement this year, but we really haven't when you look at things overall.

You remind me of this old guy I sat next to at the AU game. Always something negative. The kind of guy that people four rows down from you are looking back at him and telling him to stfu.

I reallllly wanted to punch that guy.
 
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That's no excuse for not being more competitive and at least showing a little improvement on the field from the Doofus regime.

Even Doofus was competitive with UGA and USC during his tenure. We are not the least bit improved on the field this year, over where we have been during the entire Dooley era.

Not showing at least a little on field imrpovement is UNACCEPTABLE, even with the mess Butch inherited. A really good coach gets his team to overachieve. We certainly haven't.


So forget the roster and losing players to the draft. None of that matters. All you seem to look at is wins and losses and not pay attention to other factors.

I still do not understand how beating a top team which we had lost to the past 3 years is not considered improvement. It doesn't matter how close Dooley got, he never actually did it. How can you argue that?
 
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How is that win make us really any better than the Doofus regime? OK, so we eeked one out which is definitely a good thing, but even Doofus was a play or two away from several big wins over UGA, USC, and even LSU.

But he could never close it out. Butch Jones did. How does that not matter to you? Close losses don't mean jack ****.
 
Do not start with excuses. This is a game between two evenly matched teams. So yes we will find out alot about this coaching staff this saturday.

Except that the Vandy players have been in JF's system longer than UT players have been in BJ's system.
 
How is that win make us really any better than the Doofus regime? OK, so we eeked one out which is definitely a good thing, but even Doofus was a play or two away from several big wins over UGA, USC, and even LSU.

Looking at it from an overall standpoint, given the way we have been obliterated in most games against decent or good teams, no one in their right mind can objectively say we have shown any "on field" improvement over Dooley & Co. Our defense is the same piece of garbage that we watched under Dooley, and our offense, depleted of some talent has regressed.

All I am saying, is that it is disappointing that we haven't seen at least a little bit of improvement this year, but we really haven't when you look at things overall.

TIL that the #1, #5, #6 and #8 teams in the nation are "good or decent". Not to mention that 3 of those 4 were away games.

But, continue your dooleydooleydooleydooley rant. Don't let me interrupt your hyperbolic misery.
 
It is going to be a close game.
The Numbers are showing
UT between 25 and 35 pts.
Vandy between 31 and 38 pts.
This is just based on math, no orange glasses.
It does not account for home field, or the opponent being vandy.
Vandy always comes to play UT, no matter what.
If we go into this game feeling entitled to a win, they will smack us in the mouth and have a record game.

The saving grace in this game is the chance of rain. It should boost running for both teams, and will likely limit passing.
Vandy will likely be better than thay normally are in rushing, because they are going to play to the weather, and our weakness.
They are going to go for it on 4th and anything if they are at least to their 40yd line.
If we do not see a breakout game from dobbs on the ground, I do not think we win this.
That being said ... its freakin Vandy.
If there was ever a game to motivate UT to play above their average, its vandy.
SHOW THE DOORKS WHO OWNS THE STATE.
GBO
 
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Not for the whole season. We had one good game the whole year, that one. Even Georgia, was against a team that was depleted and not having a very good season.

Other than GA and SC, we've been obliterated by ever other good team on the schedule. I mean, we haven't even been remotely competitive. So, the season, taken as a whole, has been one of underachieving, not overachieving.

I mean I didn't expect to win maybe more than 6 games, but I did expect to at least show up and make some games more competitive this year. Jones, while recruiting well and saying all the right things, still hasn't gotten this team to perform the least bit better (as a whole) than what we've seen the last few years under Doofus. Results on the field are the bottom line, and we should have gotten a little bit better improvement than what Butch and Co. have been able to produce. Granted he needs more time, but he still needs to show he can get a team to consistently overachieve.

So Tennessee cant be "a team that was depleted and not having a very good season".
 
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We are even with vandy no excuse this week brother!

Other than Jordan Matthews and Brian Kimbrell being able to torch just about anybody we have deep and BTW...Matthews is the SEC's career leader in receiving yards with 3,358 and needs just four catches to become the league's all-time leader in receptions ...other than that I agree with you.

Reality is a tough thing to deal with. I hope like heck I'm wrong and our defense shows up with some speed.
 
So Tennessee cant be "a team that was depleted and not having a very good season".

Not if Butch & Co. we're doing as good of a job as we need them to do. There is no excuse whatsoever for showing regression and not at least a little progress on the field over Doofus' teams.
 

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