Vote by mail

Thanks for the kind posts about Oregon. It is a beautiful state. It's also politically diverse, from the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016 by far right extremists to the conflicts between ANTIFA and the far right in PDX. You can't say we don't have a lively mix politically. Tons of outdoors people on both sides of the political spectrum.

Last June I'd taken some visiting family to a very remote secret swimming hole. We got run out by a bunch of guys in brown shirts carrying guns and confederate flags. Not a good impression for the out of state family. It was pretty creepy, guys with guns, flags, brown shirts and binoculars' focused on the women in their bikini's. I married into a family of very attractive women, my wife did a little modeling in LA, my mother-in-law modeled in NYC and one of my nieces' (the one with me) is currently modeling in LA. She's a glamour model and has had about 5-6 mag covers so far. So it was pretty unnerving.
 
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There in lies the problem , you can’t take the politics out because it’s who they are . They are a breed apart for sure .

And for the record the American West is a beautiful place. If anyone has never seen the grand canyon you absolutely can't describe the breathtaking view from Bright Angel Point. I enjoy the remarkable beauty of everything west of the Rockies and hope to visit more places.
And to our resident duck your welcome here anytime. The mass elections of Democrats on the left coast can be tied to illegal immigration and lax voter ID laws. If your state wants more government then have at it.
 
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Thanks for the kind posts about Oregon. It is a beautiful state. It's also politically diverse, from the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016 by far right extremists to the conflicts between ANTIFA and the far right in PDX. You can't say we don't have a lively mix politically. Tons of outdoors people on both sides of the political spectrum.

Last June I'd taken some visiting family to a very remote secret swimming hole. We got run out by a bunch of guys in brown shirts carrying guns and confederate flags. Not a good impression for the out of state family.

And for the record we don't care for the brown shirts around here either
 
Thanks for the kind posts about Oregon. It is a beautiful state. It's also politically diverse, from the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016 by far right extremists to the conflicts between ANTIFA and the far right in PDX. You can't say we don't have a lively mix politically. Tons of outdoors people on both sides of the political spectrum.

Last June I'd taken some visiting family to a very remote secret swimming hole. We got run out by a bunch of guys in brown shirts carrying guns and confederate flags. Not a good impression for the out of state family. It was pretty creepy, guys with guns, flags, brown shirts and binoculars' focused on the women in their bikini's. I married into a family of very attractive women, my wife did a little modeling in LA, my mother-in-law modeled in NYC and one of my nieces' (the one with me) is currently modeling in LA. She's a glamour model and has had about 5-6 mag covers so far. So it was pretty unnerving.

Which bragging camp did you attend?
 
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Article has links to numerous studies pointing out problems and fraud with mail voting.

28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections | RealClearPolitics

Do you mean this link:
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Mail-Voting-2012_2018-2P.pdf

Don't you think the headline is misleading? "missing" as to imply something nefarious happened to them over what actually happened, which is, the recipients of the "missing" ballots just didn't mail them in. Then goes on to blame the Postal service. SMH.
 
Lol what do you know. Thanks to ballot harvesting, Republicans flip a seat in California that had been blue
 
I'm curious what people think about "vote by mail" on a national and or local basis.

Oregon where I live first tested vote by mail in 1981 and made it permanent in 1987. So we've been using it for 37 years.

Honestly, it seems kind of weird that the rest of the country doesn't use vote by mail. It works very well, it's efficient, cost effective, accurate and results happen quickly.
I'm generally against it for two reasons. One I think it's another avenue for Voter fraud. Two I think that it's good to have some sort of cost or small barrier to voting. I think that having a cost associated with voting helps increase the odds that the voter might be educated on what it is that he is supporting
 
After mail in voting the next call will be to vote by iPhone because it’s just too hard to walk to and from the mailbox, buy a stamp, and fill out all that info by hand.
Why not just vote on VolNation? Just create a poll and let us keyboard warriors vote as we wipe the Cheeto dust from our fingers.
 
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I'm generally against it for two reasons. One I think it's another avenue for Voter fraud. Two I think that it's good to have some sort of cost or small barrier to voting. I think that having a cost associated with voting helps increase the odds that the voter might be educated on what it is that he is supporting
Sort of like a poll tax?
 
I like the idea, I did it during college.

I could see it being somewhat easier for people in rural areas that might have to drive a good distance to vote.

Or as a possible option for people who have jobs that see them frequently having to do a lot of traveling, or those that work at night and may not be up and about during the day when the polls are open.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more funding and resources going to early voting. Having only one place to early vote in Lake or Meigs or Decatur Counties isn't bad, but some places like Monroe or McMinn with more people over a larger area could use one or two more places.
 
Pennsylvania Court Strikes Down no-excuse mail-in voting law

Pennsylvania's governor has appealed the ruling

A Pennsylvania court struck down the commonwealth’s mail-in voting law, saying that voters must amend the state constitution in order to enact the legislation.

The 3-2 decision by a five-judge Commonwealth Court panel of three Republicans and two Democrats struck down Act 77, which has allowed Pennsylvania residents to vote by mail without an excuse since 2019.

"No-excuse mail-in voting makes the exercise of the franchise more convenient and has been used four times in the history of Pennsylvania," Commonwealth Court Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt wrote in the ruling Friday.

"If presented to the people, a constitutional amendment to end the Article VII, Section 1 requirement of in-person voting is likely to be adopted. But a constitutional amendment must be presented to the people and adopted into our fundamental law before legislation authorizing no-excuse mail-in voting can ‘be placed upon our statute books.’"

The court did not rule on the merits of mail-in voting but concluded that the expansion must be done via constitutional amendment and not through legislation.

Pennsylvania court strikes down no-excuse mail-in voting law
 
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